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riversedge

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30. Cnn-->Scrutiny over Clinton email raises questions of over-classification
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 07:36 PM
Aug 2015

new article fits in with your OP



http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/28/politics/hillary-clinton-email-classified/index.html


Scrutiny over Clinton email raises questions of over-classification


By Laura Koran and Elise Labott, CNN

Updated 4:00 PM ET, Fri August 28, 2015 | Video Source: CNN

Story highlights

Members of Clinton's campaign are hitting back on the notion she violated regulation governing the transmission of classified information
Clinton's allies point to an email forwarded by top aide Huma Abedin that is now at the center of the intelligence community's review of Clinton's emails

(CNN)The debate over Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server has shifted in recent days to focus on larger issues with how the government determines what is and isn't classified.

Under that system, the same set of facts can be considered classified in one agency and unclassified in another, depending on their source. Similarly, open source information can be kept classified by the U.S. government for years after it's made public in news reports or leaks....................

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You can't convince those who hate her. hrmjustin Aug 2015 #1
No you can't. But what you can do is make it crystal clear that the people attacking her from DanTex Aug 2015 #3
Call them out for their trollish behavior. hrmjustin Aug 2015 #4
Free Republic BANS people here. randys1 Aug 2015 #5
You are absolutely correct. As Rachel Madow said a little over a month ago, if Hillary Clinton still_one Aug 2015 #53
And if Hillary could spin hay into gold those who hate her asjr Aug 2015 #69
Facts do not matter to her haters Gothmog Aug 2015 #84
This message was self-deleted by its author DanTex Aug 2015 #2
Also interesting that many of the folks suddenly so worried about protecting classified information Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #6
Oh this exactly cali_dem mcar Aug 2015 #21
I know -- amazing hypocrisy. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #32
I used to have a friend who enjoyed the tune "Listen to the Mockingbird." MADem Aug 2015 #55
let me explain the difference to you questionseverything Aug 2015 #59
You beat me to that! Funny how that works. George II Aug 2015 #60
Oh, it's OK for Eddie to steal classified data.. but "Hillary's a Felon".. well then ES is a Felon Cha Aug 2015 #99
"Not a felon" is certainly a plus when it comes to running for President. Ron Green Aug 2015 #7
Obviously, she is much more than that, which is why it is embarrassing to have to post this on DU. DanTex Aug 2015 #9
What is more embarrassing is posters here accusing her of violating the Espionage Act of 1917 DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #13
Don't forget subsection Sec, 793(f), applies to negligent mishandling of classified information. leveymg Aug 2015 #130
They were prosecuted under 18 U.S.C. §1924 and not the Espionage Act. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #131
Excerpts from a CRS study of classified information case law shows Espionage Act prosecutions: leveymg Aug 2015 #135
Do we have evidence of this in the DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #137
The Judge held that 793(e) would apply, so Kiriakou plead down. How does that prove your argument? leveymg Aug 2015 #138
What part of ... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #139
OMG, this. hifiguy Aug 2015 #22
She's also not a serial killer ToxMarz Aug 2015 #43
"I'm not a crook." Richard Millhouse Nixon Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #8
Umm, except that Nixon actually was a crook. DanTex Aug 2015 #10
And what, pre, else is she NOT, Othello? LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #15
What's your point? You DO think she's a felon? George II Aug 2015 #58
I don't know. Do you? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #64
Since it's been proven over and over again that in regard to the email "scandal", she didn't.... George II Aug 2015 #66
I think that citizens are supposed to scrutinize candidates. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #71
Has that been proven? Links? leveymg Aug 2015 #140
DUers have gone to attacking Hillary as the would a Republican. liberal N proud Aug 2015 #11
It's actually worse than most Republicans, who stop short of calling her a felon. DanTex Aug 2015 #12
I read that riversedge Aug 2015 #29
Not quite. okasha Aug 2015 #57
Sad for them.. says everything about them and nothing about their target. Cha Aug 2015 #102
Yet. bahrbearian Aug 2015 #14
Where is her felony exposure? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #16
... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #17
I have read extensively on du that she's more liberal than Sanders Doctor_J Aug 2015 #18
Because the far left is dissociated from reality. DanTex Aug 2015 #20
The Reality of the Democratic Party hifiguy Aug 2015 #24
That's great. I like both Hillary and Bernie, and would be happy with either as president. DanTex Aug 2015 #26
in what way? Doctor_J Aug 2015 #25
Here's the felony accusation, 43 recs and counting: DanTex Aug 2015 #28
lol, well said and that is becoming more evident. R B Garr Aug 2015 #89
Because "far left" is a pejorative used disingenuously by political hacks Maedhros Aug 2015 #36
You're right Buzz cook Aug 2015 #92
Never said or even hinted she was but she was pretty far afield from best practices and not in TheKentuckian Aug 2015 #19
I wasn't talking about you personally, but the allegation has been made on DU (and highly recced). DanTex Aug 2015 #23
Sure, I didn't gather you were exclusively speaking to that TheKentuckian Aug 2015 #141
We need an 11th commandment in this party, desperately. ericson00 Aug 2015 #27
Cnn-->Scrutiny over Clinton email raises questions of over-classification riversedge Aug 2015 #30
There is no doubt that over-classification is a huge problem. Maedhros Aug 2015 #37
The FBI will be the final arbiter of that. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #31
The FBI has already said SHE is not a target, which has a specific meaning pnwmom Aug 2015 #35
That's a political response and does not exonerate her in any way, shape, or form. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #38
Do you have inside info?--that the FBI's comment was political? riversedge Aug 2015 #40
You mean besides common sense? AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #42
Well, I have no writing on my wall. No matter riversedge Aug 2015 #67
In the opinion of AtomicKitten on DU. The truth is the FBI is not targeting her. pnwmom Aug 2015 #44
There is plenty of info you are ignoring while mired in the culture of personality. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #45
Where are your links? The NYTimes has had to walk back story after story after story. pnwmom Aug 2015 #46
All they are guilty of is jumping the gun on the story. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #47
Still waiting for those links so I can be as informed as you think you are. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #49
I'm not doing your homework for you. You have 10 fingers and Google. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #52
You made the empty claim against HRC. Unless you can post something specific for me to respond to, pnwmom Aug 2015 #72
your denial is precious AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #76
You can't disprove a puff of air. pnwmom Aug 2015 #91
Blovaiating is some folks raison d'etrte. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #80
You've demonstrated that convincingly. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #85
Rent free... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #88
You will be waiting a long time... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #62
Because nothing says "I'm confident of my position" like name-calling. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #68
Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #74
vous ętes une personne idiote AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #75
Sticks and stones might break my bones... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #79
Your schtick is so '08, AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #82
She has lots of support... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #87
Ouch Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #119
Yeah, calling a fellow DU member a "fascist" qualifies as name calling... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #122
CNN and Reuters: Inspector Generals concluded Clinton emails presumed classified leveymg Aug 2015 #116
Thank you. None of these links prove that the now supposedly classified information pnwmom Aug 2015 #118
UR missing a link Besides, interpretation of presumed classified law and EO aren't DOS jurisdiction leveymg Aug 2015 #120
LOL. The link was the Reuters link YOU provided. Somehow you skipped pnwmom Aug 2015 #123
Again, the State Dept has not determined whether laws have been violated. That is a fallacy leveymg Aug 2015 #124
Yes, it's a fallacy that you yourself promoted when YOU claimed she'd committed a felony. pnwmom Aug 2015 #125
I agree about overclassification and that the law is too broad, but HRC appears to have broken it. leveymg Aug 2015 #128
Funny, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community Maedhros Aug 2015 #33
That letter was referring to RETROACTIVELY classified information, pnwmom Aug 2015 #48
The letter is referring to "presumed classified information" that was found in Hillary's email. leveymg Aug 2015 #126
"presumed" by some and not by others. The matter is in dispute. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #127
Presumed means by its nature classified at the moment of creation. leveymg Aug 2015 #129
So does Donald Trump! R B Garr Aug 2015 #83
You're the one suggesting that... MattSh Aug 2015 #94
Those are Donald Trump's talking points, as weii. He's very "concerned" about Hillary. n/t R B Garr Aug 2015 #96
I don't think of Hillary as a felon. Rather, someone who exercised poor judgement on a big decision. jalan48 Aug 2015 #34
I tend to agree - I don't see a felony in all this, and I don't expect she will be charged. Maedhros Aug 2015 #41
Vote for Hillary: She is not a felon! tularetom Aug 2015 #39
That's a winning tag line if I've ever heard one! Indepatriot Aug 2015 #51
Vote for BS he's not a felon, either. Cha Aug 2015 #100
And he is trying to do something to help those subjected to the "F" Live and Learn Aug 2015 #111
Thanks for the clarification. So many of us were confused by her running as a felon. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #50
Actually, it's in response to a silly Op calling her a Felon. And, I'm glad the OP layed this out. Cha Aug 2015 #101
It may have been a silly OP but it didn't call her a felon. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #104
Huh? Felon. Noun. A person who has committed a felony. DanTex Aug 2015 #106
Actually, and you know it as well as I, in the USA at least, a person Live and Learn Aug 2015 #107
The term for that is "convicted felon". As the person who wrote the OP, I can assure you that DanTex Aug 2015 #108
You are mistaken. If that were true, surely most of the people in the country, probably including Live and Learn Aug 2015 #109
Umm, speak for yourself. I've never committed a felony. Not sure who you're hanging around with. DanTex Aug 2015 #112
Are you sure? Lots of laws out there you know. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #114
She is innocent until proven guilty. That word felon shouldn't even be around yet. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #54
Excellent post. I called out someone earlier today for saying Clinton is a felon: George II Aug 2015 #56
Great headline! Ino Aug 2015 #61
Not a felon--- Just part of a couple that seems to have a knack for stepping in cow pies Armstead Aug 2015 #63
I'm not a centrist, and I'm tired of centrists. Mugweed Aug 2015 #65
"centrists are just trying to please everyone" kjones Aug 2015 #70
He didn't say that Dems shouldn't help people. He implied they try to PLEASE everyone adigal Aug 2015 #81
LOL. And if I walk out of Target with unpaid-for merchandise, it's not stolen if I had someone TwilightGardener Aug 2015 #73
Thank you taking the time to put together your OP. It is very riversedge Aug 2015 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2015 #78
Actually ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #90
^^^THIS exactly. R B Garr Aug 2015 #142
Great OP Gothmog Aug 2015 #86
I question everyone that is trying to get elected Unknown Beatle Aug 2015 #93
This post reminds me of Richard Nixon saying, "I am NOT a crook!" PatrickforO Aug 2015 #95
Actually it has nothing to do with dick nixon.. it's countering a silly OP calling Hillary a Felon.. Cha Aug 2015 #98
Thank you for laying all this out, Dan. It does help counteract the goPropaganda posted on Cha Aug 2015 #97
Thanks. I agree it won't change the minds of the mindless, but it's still good to have some DanTex Aug 2015 #105
Any one with that kind of money is. Jappleseed Aug 2015 #103
Even this guy DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #110
More hyperbole from the lackluster campaign Android3.14 Aug 2015 #113
Speaking of hyperbole... brooklynite Aug 2015 #121
perhaps you do not know the definition of hyperbole Android3.14 Aug 2015 #132
Thanks for the name-calling TBF Aug 2015 #115
Wow! Supercalifragi... er, excellent analysis! rock Aug 2015 #117
I've just been cruising RW sites, in the spirit of "know your enemy" ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #133
Hillary Clinton is absolutely not a felon! smiley Aug 2015 #134
DanTex, please direct me to the Winnbego where the Far Left resides. Thanks. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #136
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