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AtomicKitten

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31. The FBI will be the final arbiter of that.

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Fri Aug 28, 2015, 07:38 PM

Aug 2015

Hillary is no victim. She brought on this headache herself.

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Sorry far left/far right. Hillary is not a felon. [View all] DanTex Aug 2015 OP

You can't convince those who hate her. hrmjustin Aug 2015 #1

No you can't. But what you can do is make it crystal clear that the people attacking her from DanTex Aug 2015 #3

Call them out for their trollish behavior. hrmjustin Aug 2015 #4

Free Republic BANS people here. randys1 Aug 2015 #5

You are absolutely correct. As Rachel Madow said a little over a month ago, if Hillary Clinton still_one Aug 2015 #53

And if Hillary could spin hay into gold those who hate her asjr Aug 2015 #69

Facts do not matter to her haters Gothmog Aug 2015 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author DanTex Aug 2015 #2

Also interesting that many of the folks suddenly so worried about protecting classified information Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #6

Oh this exactly cali_dem mcar Aug 2015 #21

I know -- amazing hypocrisy. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #32

I used to have a friend who enjoyed the tune "Listen to the Mockingbird." MADem Aug 2015 #55

let me explain the difference to you questionseverything Aug 2015 #59

You beat me to that! Funny how that works. George II Aug 2015 #60

Oh, it's OK for Eddie to steal classified data.. but "Hillary's a Felon".. well then ES is a Felon Cha Aug 2015 #99

"Not a felon" is certainly a plus when it comes to running for President. Ron Green Aug 2015 #7

Obviously, she is much more than that, which is why it is embarrassing to have to post this on DU. DanTex Aug 2015 #9

What is more embarrassing is posters here accusing her of violating the Espionage Act of 1917 DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #13

Don't forget subsection Sec, 793(f), applies to negligent mishandling of classified information. leveymg Aug 2015 #130

They were prosecuted under 18 U.S.C. �1924 and not the Espionage Act. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #131

Excerpts from a CRS study of classified information case law shows Espionage Act prosecutions: leveymg Aug 2015 #135

Do we have evidence of this in the DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #137

The Judge held that 793(e) would apply, so Kiriakou plead down. How does that prove your argument? leveymg Aug 2015 #138

What part of ... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #139

OMG, this. hifiguy Aug 2015 #22

She's also not a serial killer ToxMarz Aug 2015 #43

"I'm not a crook." Richard Millhouse Nixon Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #8

Umm, except that Nixon actually was a crook. DanTex Aug 2015 #10

And what, pre, else is she NOT, Othello? LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #15

What's your point? You DO think she's a felon? George II Aug 2015 #58

I don't know. Do you? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #64

Since it's been proven over and over again that in regard to the email "scandal", she didn't.... George II Aug 2015 #66

I think that citizens are supposed to scrutinize candidates. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #71

Has that been proven? Links? leveymg Aug 2015 #140

DUers have gone to attacking Hillary as the would a Republican. liberal N proud Aug 2015 #11

It's actually worse than most Republicans, who stop short of calling her a felon. DanTex Aug 2015 #12

I read that riversedge Aug 2015 #29

Not quite. okasha Aug 2015 #57

Sad for them.. says everything about them and nothing about their target. Cha Aug 2015 #102

Yet. bahrbearian Aug 2015 #14

Where is her felony exposure? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #16

... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #17

I have read extensively on du that she's more liberal than Sanders Doctor_J Aug 2015 #18

Because the far left is dissociated from reality. DanTex Aug 2015 #20

The Reality of the Democratic Party hifiguy Aug 2015 #24

That's great. I like both Hillary and Bernie, and would be happy with either as president. DanTex Aug 2015 #26

in what way? Doctor_J Aug 2015 #25

Here's the felony accusation, 43 recs and counting: DanTex Aug 2015 #28

lol, well said and that is becoming more evident. R B Garr Aug 2015 #89

Because "far left" is a pejorative used disingenuously by political hacks Maedhros Aug 2015 #36

You're right Buzz cook Aug 2015 #92

Never said or even hinted she was but she was pretty far afield from best practices and not in TheKentuckian Aug 2015 #19

I wasn't talking about you personally, but the allegation has been made on DU (and highly recced). DanTex Aug 2015 #23

Sure, I didn't gather you were exclusively speaking to that TheKentuckian Aug 2015 #141

We need an 11th commandment in this party, desperately. ericson00 Aug 2015 #27

Cnn-->Scrutiny over Clinton email raises questions of over-classification riversedge Aug 2015 #30

There is no doubt that over-classification is a huge problem. Maedhros Aug 2015 #37

The FBI will be the final arbiter of that. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #31

The FBI has already said SHE is not a target, which has a specific meaning pnwmom Aug 2015 #35

That's a political response and does not exonerate her in any way, shape, or form. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #38

Do you have inside info?--that the FBI's comment was political? riversedge Aug 2015 #40

You mean besides common sense? AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #42

Well, I have no writing on my wall. No matter riversedge Aug 2015 #67

In the opinion of AtomicKitten on DU. The truth is the FBI is not targeting her. pnwmom Aug 2015 #44

There is plenty of info you are ignoring while mired in the culture of personality. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #45

Where are your links? The NYTimes has had to walk back story after story after story. pnwmom Aug 2015 #46

All they are guilty of is jumping the gun on the story. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #47

Still waiting for those links so I can be as informed as you think you are. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #49

I'm not doing your homework for you. You have 10 fingers and Google. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #52

You made the empty claim against HRC. Unless you can post something specific for me to respond to, pnwmom Aug 2015 #72

your denial is precious AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #76

You can't disprove a puff of air. pnwmom Aug 2015 #91

Blovaiating is some folks raison d'etrte. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #80

You've demonstrated that convincingly. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #85

Rent free... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #88

You will be waiting a long time... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #62

Because nothing says "I'm confident of my position" like name-calling. AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #68

Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #74

vous �tes une personne idiote AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #75

Sticks and stones might break my bones... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #79

Your schtick is so '08, AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #82

She has lots of support... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #87

Ouch Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #119

Yeah, calling a fellow DU member a "fascist" qualifies as name calling... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #122

CNN and Reuters: Inspector Generals concluded Clinton emails presumed classified leveymg Aug 2015 #116

Thank you. None of these links prove that the now supposedly classified information pnwmom Aug 2015 #118

UR missing a link Besides, interpretation of presumed classified law and EO aren't DOS jurisdiction leveymg Aug 2015 #120

LOL. The link was the Reuters link YOU provided. Somehow you skipped pnwmom Aug 2015 #123

Again, the State Dept has not determined whether laws have been violated. That is a fallacy leveymg Aug 2015 #124

Yes, it's a fallacy that you yourself promoted when YOU claimed she'd committed a felony. pnwmom Aug 2015 #125

I agree about overclassification and that the law is too broad, but HRC appears to have broken it. leveymg Aug 2015 #128

Funny, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community Maedhros Aug 2015 #33

That letter was referring to RETROACTIVELY classified information, pnwmom Aug 2015 #48

The letter is referring to "presumed classified information" that was found in Hillary's email. leveymg Aug 2015 #126

"presumed" by some and not by others. The matter is in dispute. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #127

Presumed means by its nature classified at the moment of creation. leveymg Aug 2015 #129

So does Donald Trump! R B Garr Aug 2015 #83

You're the one suggesting that... MattSh Aug 2015 #94

Those are Donald Trump's talking points, as weii. He's very "concerned" about Hillary. n/t R B Garr Aug 2015 #96

I don't think of Hillary as a felon. Rather, someone who exercised poor judgement on a big decision. jalan48 Aug 2015 #34

I tend to agree - I don't see a felony in all this, and I don't expect she will be charged. Maedhros Aug 2015 #41

Vote for Hillary: She is not a felon! tularetom Aug 2015 #39

That's a winning tag line if I've ever heard one! Indepatriot Aug 2015 #51

Vote for BS he's not a felon, either. Cha Aug 2015 #100

And he is trying to do something to help those subjected to the "F" Live and Learn Aug 2015 #111

Thanks for the clarification. So many of us were confused by her running as a felon. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #50

Actually, it's in response to a silly Op calling her a Felon. And, I'm glad the OP layed this out. Cha Aug 2015 #101

It may have been a silly OP but it didn't call her a felon. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #104

Huh? Felon. Noun. A person who has committed a felony. DanTex Aug 2015 #106

Actually, and you know it as well as I, in the USA at least, a person Live and Learn Aug 2015 #107

The term for that is "convicted felon". As the person who wrote the OP, I can assure you that DanTex Aug 2015 #108

You are mistaken. If that were true, surely most of the people in the country, probably including Live and Learn Aug 2015 #109

Umm, speak for yourself. I've never committed a felony. Not sure who you're hanging around with. DanTex Aug 2015 #112

Are you sure? Lots of laws out there you know. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #114

She is innocent until proven guilty. That word felon shouldn't even be around yet. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #54

Excellent post. I called out someone earlier today for saying Clinton is a felon: George II Aug 2015 #56

Great headline! Ino Aug 2015 #61

Not a felon--- Just part of a couple that seems to have a knack for stepping in cow pies Armstead Aug 2015 #63

I'm not a centrist, and I'm tired of centrists. Mugweed Aug 2015 #65

"centrists are just trying to please everyone" kjones Aug 2015 #70

He didn't say that Dems shouldn't help people. He implied they try to PLEASE everyone adigal Aug 2015 #81

LOL. And if I walk out of Target with unpaid-for merchandise, it's not stolen if I had someone TwilightGardener Aug 2015 #73

Thank you taking the time to put together your OP. It is very riversedge Aug 2015 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2015 #78

Actually ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #90

^^^THIS exactly. R B Garr Aug 2015 #142

Great OP Gothmog Aug 2015 #86

I question everyone that is trying to get elected Unknown Beatle Aug 2015 #93

This post reminds me of Richard Nixon saying, "I am NOT a crook!" PatrickforO Aug 2015 #95

Actually it has nothing to do with dick nixon.. it's countering a silly OP calling Hillary a Felon.. Cha Aug 2015 #98

Thank you for laying all this out, Dan. It does help counteract the goPropaganda posted on Cha Aug 2015 #97

Thanks. I agree it won't change the minds of the mindless, but it's still good to have some DanTex Aug 2015 #105

Any one with that kind of money is. Jappleseed Aug 2015 #103

Even this guy DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #110

More hyperbole from the lackluster campaign Android3.14 Aug 2015 #113

Speaking of hyperbole... brooklynite Aug 2015 #121

perhaps you do not know the definition of hyperbole Android3.14 Aug 2015 #132

Thanks for the name-calling TBF Aug 2015 #115

Wow! Supercalifragi... er, excellent analysis! rock Aug 2015 #117

I've just been cruising RW sites, in the spirit of "know your enemy" ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #133

Hillary Clinton is absolutely not a felon! smiley Aug 2015 #134

DanTex, please direct me to the Winnbego where the Far Left resides. Thanks. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #136