2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie brings DNC to its feet in BRILLIANT 25 minute speech! [View all]Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)For the actual Republicans to migrate back to, and away from ours.
The so called Centrists are really just what we used to call Republicans anyway (as you pointed out) and could go back to their natural home, what would be left in the Democratic party would be what used to be known as Democrats but now referred to as "Fringe left" (Ironically in a country that has no true left party since the cold war persecuted them out of existence) then us Democrats could have our party back.
Just a dream of mine, to be honest, however, if the Birchers do split off and form their own little fascist party, I would like the left back again to balance against them, the true far left, the old American reds of the 20's and 30's. a Socialist party (Not to be confused with Democratic Socialism as that is not the same, it preserves Capitalism while incorporating Socialism in just some key areas that Government really should take the profit motive out of anyway). They had a positive influence on the middle that was the Democratic party of FDR and he even adopted many of their best ideas and incorporated them into the Democratic system during the New Deal era.
The fascists have been left alone to influence the center since the cold war eliminated the left, Perhaps thinkers like Richard Wolff could inspire a true left Socialist party to counter them.
Sorry for the slightly off topic ramble, it's just a pet peeve of mine that our party has been infused with moderate Republicans that have taken over the leadership, mostly because the fascist bircher types took over their party and left them dispossessed.
Being a two party system by design, the Fascists and Socialist would likely be rarely elected. The worst thing this country ever did was destroy the left while the Fascists remained intact to infiltrate and take over the Rs which were once a sane party with ideas very similar if not exactly the same as the Third Way, These third Way Republicans could be allies across the aisle with true Democrats (falsely labeled fringe leftists) on some social issues of agreement while giving the Third way their proper home on the center right While we get back ours on the center left (which Bernie Sanders and FDR actually are, merely center left, but a good fit for our country).
Mixed economies such as seen in Scandinavia work for the overall population very well, as we began to learn for ourselves with the New Deal and Great Society policies, we need that again, and if we regain a true left again in this country, perhaps we could improve on it some more after those policies are restored with some more suggestions from their camp as when FDR borrowed some of their Ideas.
I know a few actual Socialists and Communists that post here and I like them and many of their Ideas, but I disagree with them in that I think a mixed economy would work better than an end to Capitalism at least until our Society and the overall globe evolves more, but I do agree with them that it is nearly impossible to keep capitalism in check before it destroys everything which it always will if left unchecked, it must be chained well with things like strict regulation and progressive taxation if one would contain the beast, but one must never relax the leash or the beast will break free and break everything, something that is happening right now leaving us in a very precarious position.
Very ill today and wanted to get some thoughts out and your post was along the lines of those thoughts, thank you for your patience as I know I am not at 100% today and my thoughts are not as well ordered or expressed as they should be.