2016 Postmortem

Warren DeMontague

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97. And my observation is, a lot of DU- which skews older, toward baby boomers- seems to be fighting the

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Aug 2015

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battles of 1972 over and over again, whether they consciously realize it or not.

1972 is as relevant to 2016 as 1928 was to 1972.

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I went to a party yesterday, truth be told most vote for democrats, and...... [View all] Bonhomme Richard Aug 2015 OP

where do you live? virtualobserver Aug 2015 #1

I live in a rural area (pretty conservative) and there is a little buzz here Doctor_J Aug 2015 #2

Rural NH sarge43 Aug 2015 #5

I live in Rural Ohio. The only sign I have seen so far is Bernie for President. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #99

Have you included the anticipated fraudulent and rigged Republican votes in your estimate? Cal33 Aug 2015 #21

Will those only be a factor if Bernie is the nominee? truebluegreen Aug 2015 #98

No. The Republicans will be cheating against any Democrat. Cal33 Sep 2015 #140

I agree. All the more reason to inspire them (us). truebluegreen Sep 2015 #141

Me too! They told me that they were kidding when they told pollsters they were voting for Hillary. onehandle Aug 2015 #3

Name recognition lead isn't really a fabrication. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #4

The hilarious thing is....... virtualobserver Aug 2015 #6

Oh I like what you said here Blus4u Aug 2015 #14

Keep trying. LOL L0oniX Aug 2015 #8

Hey, I went to a picnic two weeks ago. murielm99 Aug 2015 #15

They all want Hillary. left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #23

Which means they haven't heard of Bernie. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #37

attendants of an establishment picnic Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #40

+1 n/t Bonhomme Richard Aug 2015 #66

Attendees of a picnic murielm99 Aug 2015 #100

Sanders is a demigod? olegramps Aug 2015 #121

I didn't say he was anti establishment. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #125

+2 BeanMusical Aug 2015 #105

Remember Lieberman's "Joementum"? That was early on namr recognition. nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #104

Such is my experience in real life as well. L0oniX Aug 2015 #7

I have some friends that I feel are very strong Democrats and have been very active for years. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #76

In that case it may be DWS that causes the loss of the GE... L0oniX Aug 2015 #94

Exactly. Should Clinton win the primary but lose the general, the conservatives among us rhett o rick Aug 2015 #103

You really need to look for higher quality friends. OhWiseOne Aug 2015 #9

I am not so sure anymore. 840high Aug 2015 #10

put down your grubby little crystal ball. cali Aug 2015 #16

As Thom Hartman Mbrow Aug 2015 #29

Yes! So true! wolfie001 Aug 2015 #32

An important point that needs more attention dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #116

that is crazy talk Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #42

Not with you on this one.nt artislife Aug 2015 #95

No no no. He needs filthy rich friends so they can relate to Hillary better. L0oniX Aug 2015 #96

I'm not convinced. Sorry. sibelian Aug 2015 #107

In the C-Span call-in segment following Bernie's DNC speech Stevepol Aug 2015 #109

keep fighting for transparency! questionseverything Aug 2015 #129

You definitely need a name change. False advertising. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2015 #118

If Bernie wins the dem primary a repub will win the general election. Opposite happens with Hillary. AlbertCat Aug 2015 #122

Do you have anything of substancet to post, other than insults? Maedhros Aug 2015 #123

Funny. Only way a Republican could do that is if a large number of Dems voted for them. Scootaloo Aug 2015 #124

Nonsense. Hissyspit Aug 2015 #130

My experience is the opposite hack89 Aug 2015 #11

That is because the Lincoln Chafee campaign is sucking all of the political oxygen out of RI virtualobserver Aug 2015 #19

Now that's funny! Nt hack89 Aug 2015 #27

Chaffee who???? revmclaren Aug 2015 #31

Bernie's picking up steam quickly in CA. I see A LOT of pro Bernie in social media, but Nil for Hil. C Moon Aug 2015 #108

I'm in California revmclaren Aug 2015 #22

Same here, and I live in a conservative community in Northern Los Angeles County politicaljunkie41910 Aug 2015 #28

I guess you need to go downtown. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #41

Some 'ONE'.... revmclaren Aug 2015 #43

CA went to Hillary in 08 as well. Not that it helped. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #44

Lots of repubs here... revmclaren Aug 2015 #46

I campaigned for Obama... revmclaren Aug 2015 #47

Analogy Snerd Aug 2015 #90

QOTD! pinebox Aug 2015 #119

^This^ MoonchildCA Aug 2015 #120

He may call himself that now... revmclaren Aug 2015 #139

Then you're not getting out enough. Fawke Em Aug 2015 #39

Nice 'CROWD' revmclaren Aug 2015 #45

Is anyone getting out and doing anything for Hillary? Fawke Em Aug 2015 #53

I am... revmclaren Aug 2015 #60

Thank you so much for asking... revmclaren Aug 2015 #63

Hmm kenfrequed Aug 2015 #64

Crowds are great... revmclaren Aug 2015 #65

They are trying their best, I'll give them that. Nt hack89 Aug 2015 #82

Nice anecdote. To be clear, that's all it is. Metric System Aug 2015 #12

Well, I'm glad that you cleared that up! virtualobserver Aug 2015 #17

Apparently the obvious needed stating. Metric System Aug 2015 #18

Were they all in favor of your candidate at the cotillion? MoveIt Aug 2015 #55

The ghost of Pauline Kael says hi DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #13

I heard that her ghost's money is on Hillary this time virtualobserver Aug 2015 #20

Only to those that live in the elite and rarefied environment Ms. Kael did. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #24

My wife lived in Boston in 1972 virtualobserver Aug 2015 #25

I agree that Massachusetts got it right in 72 and Minnesota got it right in 84. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #30

I bought that, I haven't read it yet..... virtualobserver Aug 2015 #35

I checked it out from the library DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #36

I have read RFK's speeches, but I have never read a book about him. virtualobserver Aug 2015 #49

I was ten years old when RFK was assasinated DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #72

That is the problem......the sick people who motivate people like Dylan Roof virtualobserver Aug 2015 #87

Well, Tim McVeigh was motivated by the Turner Diaries DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #89

You do get that her line about not knowing any Nixon voters was a joke, a humorous jab at her own Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #48

Respectfully I got it... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #51

Respectfully, I think the Hillary people on DU need to stop imagining that it's 1972. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #73

My remarks were aimed more to the suggestion that in his milieu nobody likes Hillary DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #79

in my Millieu no one likes her, either, but I know what kind of response that's gonna get. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #91

In the spirit of comity I will just let you knowing what my response will be stand. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #92

And my observation is, a lot of DU- which skews older, toward baby boomers- seems to be fighting the Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #97

Again, my observation has nothing to do with 1972 and everything to do with the seminal poster's... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #110

right, I understand what you were trying to get at. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #132

Yet interestingly enough, many of the most PO'd "But It's Her TURN!!!" Hillary people on DU Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #69

"intellectualsplain"... so now thinking is somehow suspect? Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #67

Nixon won the largest pop vote/EC victory in the modern era DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #134

Look, dude, either you're making the analogy while imagining 1972 is relevant to 2016 Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #135

I am rebutting the absurd suggestion that nobody likes Hillary Clinton. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #136

If someone made that suggestion, one, they're incorrect, and two, it wasnt me. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #137

"Intellectualsplain"? Scootaloo Aug 2015 #133

Yes Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #26

That has been my experince in SO CA too. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #33

Either way we win. svpadgham Aug 2015 #112

Thanks for the post. Todays_Illusion Aug 2015 #34

I�m from Westchester County NY - where Hillary lives dorkzilla Aug 2015 #38

! thank you for telling this. Hiraeth Aug 2015 #117

I Love Bernie, but I hate all the hate OverBurn Aug 2015 #50

Anything IS better than a presidential repub hell!!!! revmclaren Aug 2015 #71

The vocal minority always barge their way to the front of the line LiberalLovinLug Aug 2015 #127

Has the person who started this thread responded at all? Nothing about where they live or any randys1 Aug 2015 #52

Yeah what nerve! I bet he made it up huh? MoveIt Aug 2015 #57

Take a step back? Now I think I have heard it all. randys1 Aug 2015 #58

ignore my previous advice carry on MoveIt Aug 2015 #59

Just another hit and run post. revmclaren Aug 2015 #68

You might want to look at the post before you make comments. n/t Bonhomme Richard Aug 2015 #70

There you are... revmclaren Aug 2015 #74

I haven't personally made any decisions yet but..... Bonhomme Richard Aug 2015 #75

Sometimes Clinton comes across as hard... revmclaren Aug 2015 #81

We're loving the hell out of him in the Bay Area arcane1 Aug 2015 #77

That's great. revmclaren Aug 2015 #80

I'm in CT Bonhomme Richard Aug 2015 #54

I was at the same party. After you left, we all had a good laugh wyldwolf Aug 2015 #56

OOh, I just got an invitation in email Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #61

Wow! The vitriol amazes me, then again, maybe not.. Bonhomme Richard Aug 2015 #62

Some people have no manners. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #84

I hung out at the Outlaws clubhouse this weekend. OilemFirchen Aug 2015 #78

Interesting perspective... revmclaren Aug 2015 #83

Half a dozen cases of Stoneys. OilemFirchen Aug 2015 #85

I have to agree.... revmclaren Aug 2015 #86

Far-right Republicans like Bernie, regular Bush/Christie types not so much Reter Aug 2015 #88

I think we just want some honesty. When you take away Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #128

I've been hearing that too from the most unlikely people. mountain grammy Aug 2015 #93

I still can't believe Nixon won redstateblues Aug 2015 #101

I hear this, too, but (1) the Republicans are talking up Sanders the same way the Democrats talk up Attorney in Texas Aug 2015 #102

Kick and R BeanMusical Aug 2015 #106

I don't know anyone who isn't supporting Bernie. Vinca Aug 2015 #111

Neither the right or left will allow an establishment candidate this time, period. harun Aug 2015 #113

I polled everyone in my house and the results are that Clinton is still the favorite! randome Aug 2015 #114

Sorry, your household margin of error is too high for the poll to be of significance Godhumor Sep 2015 #142

That is the buzz I am getting, too. Hepburn Aug 2015 #115

He can't win HassleCat Aug 2015 #126

Wow, I've never met anyone who's going to vote for BS. moobu2 Aug 2015 #131

I think I don't want to live near you. Ron Green Sep 2015 #143

Nobody I know has publicly said they were voting for Sanders taught_me_patience Aug 2015 #138

Doesn't mean much treestar Sep 2015 #144

A this point it doesn't mean much. It caught me...... Bonhomme Richard Sep 2015 #145