2016 Postmortem

Vinca

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8. Her handlers are keeping her in a bubble too much of the time.

Mon Aug 31, 2015, 08:39 AM

Aug 2015

She's so overscripted it's a rarity when you see spontaneous Hillary. It's too bad, too, because when she is "herself" she's very appealing.

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Clinton campaigning "Above it All" [View all] Armstead Aug 2015 OP

He has super delegates and the money to ride through morningfog Aug 2015 #1

Works well for me. Means a 2008 repeat. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #2

ha ha --Sanders has many surrogates on this board that perform this funtion... riversedge Aug 2015 #3

That's silly. DU is a virtual pub where the locals gather to morningfog Aug 2015 #5

Oh, give it a break. There are many ways to influence people and riversedge Aug 2015 #9

There are maybe 1,000 people who frequent DU. morningfog Aug 2015 #12

There is the Snowball effect. riversedge Aug 2015 #20

And the molehill effect demwing Aug 2015 #74

This is a "discussion forum". Nobody is a "surrogate" here, they are "posters". Hope this helps. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #22

Gee, I've been called a lot of nasty things, even been jailed and beaten a few times,but... Scruffy1 Aug 2015 #26

sorry. super fail. that is not the definition of a surrogate. cali Aug 2015 #31

Are you really comparing anonymous posters on a discussion board to members of Congress? frylock Aug 2015 #46

We're just independent individuals Armstead Aug 2015 #50

I think you are missing the point. It is not just about surrogates. They jwirr Aug 2015 #56

What puzzles me... Scootaloo Aug 2015 #77

Because their arguments are wholly disingenuous? [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #106

+1 Juicy_Bellows Aug 2015 #108

She's way out ahead and average Americans don't pay attention until late Fall or later. nt onehandle Aug 2015 #4

7 points is way ahead? Fawke Em Aug 2015 #14

Keep those eyes on New Hampshire and Iowa. onehandle Aug 2015 #16

But.. but.. butt.. he's got big crowds and all that! Amimnoch Sep 2015 #111

I'm probably wrong fadedrose Aug 2015 #6

You're not wrong. I saw her when she was running in 08. Dawgs Aug 2015 #15

Now this post I get. K&R nt Live and Learn Aug 2015 #7

Her handlers are keeping her in a bubble too much of the time. Vinca Aug 2015 #8

lmao BooScout Aug 2015 #23

which he barely glances.at. you must agree with the rethugs about Obama using a teleprompter. cali Aug 2015 #32

More herp and less derp, please. frylock Aug 2015 #48

I doubt that's possible, hifiguy Aug 2015 #75

He goes on TV all the time and puts himself at the mwrcy of interviewers Armstead Aug 2015 #53

Are you kidding me? Z_California Aug 2015 #61

Bernie is probably the most spontaneous politician I've encountered. Vinca Aug 2015 #78

Boos couture you are funny. everyone uses notes including roguevalley Aug 2015 #103

"She's doing it wrong!!!!!" JoePhilly Aug 2015 #10

"I hate her guts and I will say it explicitly or implicitly." DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #13

I think she's ethically challenged. I don't find that admirable. cali Aug 2015 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #40

I "like" her just fine. I respect her political experience. She's OK in some ways. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #45

Everyone is ethically challenged Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #96

I don't "hate hr guts" but I don't like her "above it all" style of campaigning Armstead Aug 2015 #54

A plebeian like me can never aspire to be as perspicacious as the denizens of this board DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #67

If you use a word like perspicacious you're plenty smart... Armstead Aug 2015 #86

using hate is juvenile. roguevalley Aug 2015 #104

She's "disgusting", "contemptible", and ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #112

Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #114

"Nothing disgusts me more" followed by a Hillay rant. SouthernProgressive Aug 2015 #90

She is definitely running out the clock Doctor_J Aug 2015 #11

"Above it all?" Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #17

It's neither...her plan was always to delay aggressive campaigning until the Fall... brooklynite Aug 2015 #18

You never roll out new product in August.. frylock Aug 2015 #49

Well she might tailor that to the fact that the campaigns ae underway Armstead Aug 2015 #55

Always nice when people who will never support a candidate want to give them campaign advice... brooklynite Aug 2015 #71

Oh my word, stop with the sour grapes. juajen Aug 2015 #72

Don't ya hate it when women get arrogant and above themselves... BooScout Aug 2015 #19

Pffft. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #27

Lol! Awesome! neverforget Aug 2015 #28

bravo. cali Aug 2015 #36

Perfect! bvf Aug 2015 #42

Nailed it. L0oniX Aug 2015 #59

nice strawman comic! Vattel Aug 2015 #79

Has ABSOLUTLY NOITHING to do with that Armstead Aug 2015 #57

How did this one Z_California Aug 2015 #66

Yea, let's let the men rant and rave. leftofcool Aug 2015 #107

Hillary is most popular when she doesn't speak much. That's her real problem. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #21

Yes, women should only speak when given permission to do so BooScout Aug 2015 #24

That was lame the first time around. bvf Aug 2015 #25

But is is just so damned easy for a lazy poster here to stir shit to toss that out everytime. morningfog Aug 2015 #35

What gets me is that bvf Aug 2015 #44

Please see post 27. hueymahl Aug 2015 #41

What a lame distortion of what I said. You're not an honest debater. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #47

/-[)!\|" L0oniX Aug 2015 #63

She has also released the fewest # of specifics on any policy issue. askew Aug 2015 #29

7-0 lonestarnot Aug 2015 #37

She's comfortably set into the media "front runner" bubble. NorthCarolina Aug 2015 #30

I don't think AF recruits her age group. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #33

She is running a highly managed campaign dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #38

FWIW, I think that's a very good analysis. malthaussen Aug 2015 #70

She's in the Beltway Money Bubble. SoapBox Aug 2015 #39

The low key campaign can backfire. joshcryer Aug 2015 #43

"Ros garden" strategy didn't work so well for Carter. thesquanderer Aug 2015 #51

I think its laughable when I see someone talk about Hillary and fear Gman Aug 2015 #52

Not fear of the boiught and sold process -- but fear of unscripted exposure Armstead Aug 2015 #62

Every campaign has those fears . Gman Aug 2015 #85

And it's ALL because of "Hillary-haters" like you, who won't stop 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #58

As I recall, Abe Lincoln ran on his record, too. malthaussen Aug 2015 #60

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #64

LOL I'd like to see something resembling an acknowledment that's not only.... Armstead Aug 2015 #69

your complaint is that she is not attacking Bernie? Florencenj2point0 Aug 2015 #82

Perhaps, you responded to the wrong person ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #84

yes..... I meant to reply to the Original post Florencenj2point0 Aug 2015 #92

Whats sad in 2000 there were only nine debates or forums .... Historic NY Aug 2015 #65

Sanders will not appeal to mainstream democratic voters until he shows viability Gothmog Aug 2015 #68

add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt antigop Aug 2015 #81

Viability and/or electability is a valid criterion to evaluate a candidate during primary process Gothmog Aug 2015 #83

viable is happening now. she is old tired news roguevalley Aug 2015 #105

just keep repeating the "Bernie is unelectable" meme. nt antigop Aug 2015 #110

She doesn't do "mixing" with the commoners hifiguy Aug 2015 #73

Instead of engaging the public and being real, she's hiding behind a wall of protection. Avalux Aug 2015 #76

If someone runs for POTUS as a Democrat, but runs solely to serve the interests of the 1%, Zorra Aug 2015 #80

Yawn ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #87

Yeah that's what I say too Armstead Aug 2015 #89

I don't see why people who don't support her keep having an issue with her campaign. SouthernProgressive Aug 2015 #88

Some of us have an issue with the elite telling everyone who is the next nominee Armstead Aug 2015 #91

"Yes reporters can be s---heads. But that[s part if the process." SouthernProgressive Aug 2015 #93

If you are correct about her wonderful qualities and appeal... Armstead Aug 2015 #97

"If you are correct about her wonderful qualities and appeal..." SouthernProgressive Aug 2015 #100

It's no really all that complicated Armstead Aug 2015 #109

So. Much. Projection! Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #94

I wish I were in a position to choose to be above it all Armstead Aug 2015 #98

Fighting fair always gets you what you want in politics. Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #99

I'm not going to vote for any candidate who can't be bothered to Autumn Aug 2015 #95

It makes sense HassleCat Aug 2015 #101

August is always a weird month. oldandhappy Aug 2015 #102

It will be interesting...Sanders is about to go back to his day-job HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #113