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156. Has he been to Hispanic areas of Texas

Mon Aug 31, 2015, 04:27 PM

Aug 2015

or not? If he hasn't been, I can see why a Hispanic politician would find that bothersome, especially with Sanders less than stellar record on immigration. We need to win at least 60 percent of the Hispanic vote to win in November of 2016. I don't see Sanders doing that if he runs against Bush or Rubio. Honestly, even Hillary might have problems pulling 60 against them.

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Rep. Joaquin Castro Questions Sanders' Commitment to Latino Community [View all] TexasTowelie Aug 2015 OP

OMG! You mean Hillary's drone LIED about Bernie??? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #1

Where do you live so that I can call 9-1-1 TexasTowelie Aug 2015 #4

LOL! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #5

In that case you need to share a photo TexasTowelie Aug 2015 #8

Sure, I'm a babe but he did the same for all the women! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #9

lol lovemydog Aug 2015 #14

It was hysterical! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #18

THANK You !!! John Poet Aug 2015 #116

Easy peasey! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #120

Another Clinton surrogate TSIAS Aug 2015 #2

She thinks we're too stupid to see what a dirty campaign she's running jfern Aug 2015 #7

It's not the first time. merrily Aug 2015 #24

You think that this is a dirty campaign? Gothmog Aug 2015 #36

So you're saying its a good thing Hillary is running a slimy campaign again LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #50

Seems so Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #55

Where is the slime??? Gothmog Aug 2015 #68

the slime is a sitting us rep lying...geesh questionseverything Aug 2015 #127

Remember that time ... Trajan Aug 2015 #62

The Democrats ran mainstream candidates who were adequatedly financed Gothmog Aug 2015 #71

At least you are more subtle than the others ... Trajan Aug 2015 #166

I am not known for being subtle Gothmog Aug 2015 #171

I suspect you are speaking a foreign language called "political reality" ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #250

Exactly. BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #280

But but but....Castro is a Clinton surrogate, he's been given a strict script to follow..... George II Aug 2015 #224

Come on, mannn! ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #64

Some Sanders supporters have tried to tell me that money does not matter in politics Gothmog Aug 2015 #69

Nor, do endorsements or Party apparatus or ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #72

you're essentially stating we should vote for Clinton because... 108vcd Aug 2015 #232

No, I am saying that you need to show how Sanders is viable Gothmog Aug 2015 #234

Stop calling Bernie a racist!!! ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #252

Hillary Clinton is going to help overturn Citizen's United davidpdx Sep 2015 #291

So if Bernie can't compete against money and happens to beat Hillary, RichVRichV Aug 2015 #257

She or Biden are the only two Democrats who can tap into the Obama fundraising machine Gothmog Aug 2015 #258

And when he first entered she was polling over 75% up. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #261

I think it does davidpdx Sep 2015 #289

Actually, in Minnesota he said it is $31 at a time. George II Aug 2015 #242

At that rate ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #248

He'll beat their money the same way he's going to beat Hillary's money.. frylock Aug 2015 #90

How? You need money to fight negative ads Gothmog Aug 2015 #98

People aren't watching teevee.. frylock Aug 2015 #102

Oh goodie, another youtube is magic and TV ads do not matter explanation Gothmog Aug 2015 #114

That "real world" is precisely what's wrong. And what we have to change. Now. Ron Green Aug 2015 #122

The real world is the real world Gothmog Aug 2015 #134

I'm with you. We might well be tilting at the proverbial windmill, but we've gotta do something, PatrickforO Aug 2015 #228

Yeah, in your "real world" a socialist that won't take PAC money and run negative ads.. frylock Aug 2015 #142

We are in the primary process and viability in the general election is a valid criteria Gothmog Aug 2015 #159

Republicans will climb from out of their deathbeds to vote against Clinton frylock Aug 2015 #162

And they are not going to do this to stop a socialist from becoming POTUS?? Gothmog Aug 2015 #181

You go right on ahead and base you vote on fear then.. frylock Aug 2015 #186

No, you need voter support demwing Aug 2015 #173

The Bernie Brigade better develop a thicker skin VanillaRhapsody Aug 2015 #107

if he can beat Hillary in the primary, he's viable in the general. cali Aug 2015 #124

That is not going to happen unless Sanders shows that he is viable in general election Gothmog Aug 2015 #132

your ignorance of his efforts, doesn't negate his repeated outreach to the Latino community. cali Aug 2015 #139

If he can beat Hillary in the Primary, he'll prove that he's more viable than she is. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #152

I am happy to wait and see the results of the primary Gothmog Aug 2015 #157

Yeah Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #172

Then explain how Sanders is viable Gothmog Aug 2015 #202

Well of the Democratic Establishment abandons him if he wins primary...They are NADERS Armstead Aug 2015 #194

Sanders needs to win outside of states with 90% white populations Gothmog Aug 2015 #200

Well we have different assumptions about "viable" I guess Armstead Aug 2015 #205

And she would be wrong Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #54

Well, HRH doesn't deign to talk to the press or hifiguy Aug 2015 #113

she thinks she's smarter than her supporters MoveIt Sep 2015 #301

"Joaquin Castro, stumping here Sunday for Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton" JI7 Aug 2015 #3

What a liar jfern Aug 2015 #6

Even the article suggests he is either ill informed or lying. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #10

I'll go with lying his fucking ass off for million, Alec cali Aug 2015 #58

Im inclined to agree with you there, Cali dorkzilla Aug 2015 #82

Eeyup. hifiguy Aug 2015 #115

How is he "lying his fucking ass off"? George II Aug 2015 #240

Based on that, you can't actually say that Sanders is drawing support among Hispanics mythology Aug 2015 #145

And what did the article say just BEFORE that sentence? George II Aug 2015 #233

You might want to add his first name to the title for the benefit of those of us Live and Learn Aug 2015 #11

Fidel will not approve either. TexasTowelie Aug 2015 #16

gee. exactly the same line as Gutierrez. that's our hilly cali Aug 2015 #12

Clinton surrogates saying ugly shit. left-of-center2012 Aug 2015 #26

'With a cloth' John Poet Aug 2015 #119

Creativity falls to focus group tested phrases. HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #30

I think Clintonian politics is analogous to Machiavellian. cali Aug 2015 #34

Yes! Yes it is!! haikugal Aug 2015 #106

Castro, Mi amigo DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #13

Wrong Castro. TexasTowelie Aug 2015 #17

well, to be fair DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #19

Julian, not Juan. okasha Aug 2015 #138

My county chair went to the Houston event and it was 90% white Gothmog Aug 2015 #165

No surprise on either count. okasha Aug 2015 #176

Sanders needs to break 15% in Texas to get any delegates Gothmog Aug 2015 #197

Oops, my mistake. TexasTowelie Aug 2015 #284

Another Clinton drone AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #15

anyone who doesn't know that this is a coordinated effort from team hilly cali Aug 2015 #20

The Triangulator Strikes Again! Ford_Prefect Aug 2015 #21

He can't just say "Hillary's great."....Has to throw in the snide racial dog whistle Armstead Aug 2015 #22

no shit. hypocrisy. cali Aug 2015 #25

Deja vu all over again. The politics of dividing by race, gender, ethnicity, etc. merrily Aug 2015 #23

You really should know who uses that kind of meme... stevenleser Aug 2015 #237

Are you attempting to equate merrily with Limbaugh or Cruz? Scootaloo Aug 2015 #255

Sloppy and careless BeyondGeography Aug 2015 #27

How disturbing.....losing respect for him. ccinamon Aug 2015 #28

Wait, HC supporters are reccing a thread that proves Castro lied for Clinton? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #29

shocking, isn't it? those morally superior Clinton supporters cheering on lying cali Aug 2015 #32

If Bernie did this I would be mortified. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #35

Scary Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #56

Just like their candidate all that matters is winning. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #57

I rec'ed a2liberal Aug 2015 #66

That was my link, I think! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #67

yup, your link :) nt a2liberal Aug 2015 #91

I rec'ed because to a South Texan okasha Aug 2015 #148

Well I can't call him truthful. He lied twice at that restaurant, Bernie has been to Texas and Autumn Aug 2015 #269

I can't imagine he cares what you call him. okasha Aug 2015 #276

I decided to rec it for precisely that reason Jim Lane Aug 2015 #70

I did too and changed my post to specify HC supporters. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #76

I'm gonna rec this too because the lies are right there in this article Autumn Aug 2015 #265

Good to see which HC supporters approve of lying and race baiting too. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #286

Very illuminating. And desperate. CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #31

Congressman Joaquin Castro makes some good points Gothmog Aug 2015 #33

he's a liar and he's being a good little Clintonian surrogate. cali Aug 2015 #37

With Team Clinton lying about him you may be right Armstead Aug 2015 #42

Yes, Big H and Big D are not in the Valley, nor is San Antonio where the Castros hail from. freshwest Aug 2015 #149

Hillary's already been to the Valley this year, okasha Aug 2015 #153

And the Valley is very different than Dallas or Houston. tammywammy Aug 2015 #241

Hillary has also been to Houston, okasha Aug 2015 #243

I remember La Raza from the Vietnam War days, Chicanos and Tejanos had a moratorium on enlisting. freshwest Aug 2015 #259

Tu hermana sounds like she's made a good life for herself and her sons. okasha Aug 2015 #266

Her story is so much like the Castros that they told at the DNC it made me cry. freshwest Aug 2015 #278

Why not Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #260

Why wouldn't Bernie reach out to the Hispanic caucus in Congress? Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #38

Oh I don't know. I guess he hates Hispanics too Armstead Aug 2015 #43

Hispanics will play a large role in the 2016 election Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #45

He has and will continue to do so, I'm sure Armstead Aug 2015 #46

as he has. Joaquin is a lying henchman for Hillary cali Aug 2015 #99

How is he lying? George II Aug 2015 #239

Not just a bigot - a white supremacist bigot. kath Aug 2015 #79

naaah, Sanders just never realized he might actually NEED to "do demographics" when running for prez bettyellen Aug 2015 #144

that's just more bullshit. cali Aug 2015 #158

why on earth would i believe Clinton henchmen and women? cali Aug 2015 #44

Calling Joaquin Castro a henchman is over-the-top. Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #47

No it is not Duckhunter935 Aug 2015 #59

just because you don't know the definition of a word, is no reason not to use it. cali Aug 2015 #60

Castro is not a member of the Progressive Caucus. The House is large, Castro in his first term. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #220

Don't take the bait ibegurpard Aug 2015 #39

"I didn't come here to knock any of the candidates, but..." progressoid Aug 2015 #40

and there's this: https://www.facebook.com/LatinosForBernie a kennedy Aug 2015 #41

Good deal. There are organized groups of Latinos for Bernie that have posted here before, appalachiablue Aug 2015 #65

This shows who the clintons really are Robbins Aug 2015 #48

He is another one of those New Democrat Coalition people. Third Way, all the way. djean111 Aug 2015 #49

So, Sanders doesn't reach out to the Latino community enough and it's all Hillary's fault! leftofcool Aug 2015 #51

Castro is a remarkably popular Democrat Rose Siding Aug 2015 #52

nice to know which duers cheer on this contemptible behavior. cali Aug 2015 #63

Julian's made a big difference at HUD. More public housing. My city has some HUD housing opening freshwest Sep 2015 #300

now that is hillaryous wendylaroux Aug 2015 #53

hey unlike hilly the human weathervane, Bernie does not support kicking immigrant cali Aug 2015 #61

Yep pinebox Aug 2015 #74

I voted against an alert on this post... brooklynite Aug 2015 #75

the irony of your righteousness is delicious. cali Aug 2015 #78

Translation: "My alert failed." <nt> AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #89

1) I never alert, 2) you can't vote on your own alert 3) as I said, I voted against the alert brooklynite Aug 2015 #95

Uh huh. <nt> AtomicKitten Aug 2015 #97

I'll tell ya! ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #73

I hear ya. leftofcool Aug 2015 #83

I hear you, too.. okasha Aug 2015 #151

I hear that ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #230

And sadly, it's getting worse. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #246

Oh yeah. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #275

Yeah, but that guy never talked to MEMEME! I gave him so many chances, too! freshwest Sep 2015 #303

hurr durrrr frylock Aug 2015 #92

Of Course! He's Third Way/New Dem Coalition fredamae Aug 2015 #77

ugh. Jim Himes, Debbie Wasserman-Schulz. cali Aug 2015 #80

Ugh. My own crappy TPP-loving rep is part of their leadership. CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #84

It sounds like Rep Castro needs to be enlightened hootinholler Aug 2015 #81

And I question Rep. Joaquin Castro's integrity demwing Aug 2015 #85

+1! n/t Chan790 Aug 2015 #129

You know what? What doesn't kill him makes him stronger... HappyPlace Aug 2015 #141

Doesn't change my high opinion of Bernie demwing Aug 2015 #150

I'm totally with you. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #244

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #86

Of course he does, he wants his brother to be VEEP ram2008 Aug 2015 #87

Congressman Joaquin Castro has been named as the Chair of Texas State Democratic Convention Gothmog Aug 2015 #88

doesn't change the fact that he lied while acting as Hillary's henchman cali Aug 2015 #94

You are welcome to Texas and try to contest his position Gothmog Aug 2015 #101

I actually like Texas but not in the summer. cali Aug 2015 #105

THAT IS GREAT NEWS! He can turn Texas BLUE! Thanks for posting it; will it be on TV? n/t freshwest Sep 2015 #305

"has not visited Texas and definitely didn't draw huge crowds, so stop saying that!!" arcane1 Aug 2015 #93

they'll. only ramp it up now. cali Aug 2015 #96

Race baiting from a Clinton surrogate? The hell you say Prism Aug 2015 #100

because he's doing so well in Iowa and New Hampshire and be cause this is reflexive behavior cali Aug 2015 #104

So Castro says to Sanders, "you need to reach out to us more" and he is a race baiter? leftofcool Aug 2015 #111

Just stop already Prism Aug 2015 #112

You just called Castro who is an ethnic minority a race baiter. leftofcool Aug 2015 #123

He just lied his ass off Prism Aug 2015 #125

This leftofcool Aug 2015 #137

That.... Armstead Aug 2015 #143

I think your argument is with Castro, not Hillary. leftofcool Aug 2015 #146

I'm fairly sure he isn't "off message" from the Clinton juggernaut Armstead Aug 2015 #147

uh no. we aren't that stupid. this is Hillary campaign shit. cali Aug 2015 #154

disgusting spin of ugly, divisive and dishonest attack on Sanders from the Clinton camp cali Aug 2015 #118

sanders is too politie to say that. Armstead Aug 2015 #140

I didn't come here to knock any of the candidates, but Sen. Sanders GeorgeGist Aug 2015 #103

First, gunz. Then black insensitivity. Now Latino insentivity.... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #108

they don't care that it's not subtle. they know this shit is effective. cali Aug 2015 #121

Considering who he's shilling for, I question Castro's commitment to the Latino Community whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #109

Stop Showing Bias! onehandle Aug 2015 #110

Why did you have to make that statement? onecaliberal Aug 2015 #117

Gee fancy this dsc Aug 2015 #126

Nah...Plant the seed. Raise the "concern" back off and later say ... Armstead Aug 2015 #136

Has he been to Hispanic areas of Texas dsc Aug 2015 #156

unlike dear hilly who supports deporting kids, and who really does have a sucky history cali Aug 2015 #160

Hillary worked in the Valley registering Hispanic voters early in her career Gothmog Aug 2015 #163

And Sanders marched with MLK d...But those days are irrelevant, remember? Armstead Aug 2015 #167

What makes the difference okasha Aug 2015 #178

Okay, yeah sure....my ourtrage supply is drained for the day Armstead Aug 2015 #179

Sorry about your outrage supply. okasha Aug 2015 #201

Well you're good refueling it Armstead Aug 2015 #207

Why, then, say "Thank you, ma'am." okasha Aug 2015 #213

No tip though...sorry Armstead Aug 2015 #214

See, you're recovering already. okasha Aug 2015 #218

Sorry but you've got it Armstead Aug 2015 #219

that's nice. go listen to some of her anti-undocumented rhetoric. cali Aug 2015 #168

And yet Sanders is not getting any traction with Hispanic voters Gothmog Aug 2015 #170

Sanders is no less steller than Clinton Armstead Aug 2015 #164

that was pretty much Bush's immigration reform in 2007 dsc Aug 2015 #169

So does Sanders, and he had valid reasons for 2007 vote Armstead Aug 2015 #177

I doubt Joaquin Castro's integrity. n/t Chan790 Aug 2015 #128

Good! That's a badge of honor for him! Cha Aug 2015 #189

If he wants to view it that way... Chan790 Aug 2015 #231

I view it that it way.. It's a Badge of HONOR for Joaquin Castro! Cha Aug 2015 #249

Well...bully for both of you then. Chan790 Aug 2015 #251

Thank you, HUD SEC Joaquin Castro! Cha Aug 2015 #256

Bernie Sanders criticizes ‘open borders’ at Hispanic Chamber of Commerce still_one Aug 2015 #130

who supports completely open borders? And atleast, unlike hilly, he doesn't support cali Aug 2015 #131

Um so does Clinton Armstead Aug 2015 #161

Oh, I did not know that HRC wants to open the borders. sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #184

Well, perhaps ask protestors why they WOULD NOT LET Bernie speak on immigration issues at NetRoots? cascadiance Aug 2015 #133

Kick & highly recommended! William769 Aug 2015 #135

It's a hoot, isn't it? okasha Aug 2015 #155

Yes it is. William769 Aug 2015 #175

Yes distacting smears are such fun Armstead Aug 2015 #182

No, you and your buds are. okasha Aug 2015 #204

I'm glad you're having fun...Really Armstead Aug 2015 #206

If you ony knew how funny your post is to the masses. William769 Aug 2015 #211

Castro says Sanders has not been to Texas but Sanders has had two large rallies in Texas. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #199

Joaquin Castro wants representation for Latinos, perhaps he has not felt Bernie reaching where the Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #174

he flat out lied, but you defend all things Hillary like no one else. cali Aug 2015 #180

Perhaps I missed Bernie's visit to the Valley. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #185

Oh gosh, he hasn't even been to my STATE yet. Armstead Aug 2015 #188

Not my problem. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #190

Not mine either...nor is is it every other damn valley and county or state's problem.... Armstead Aug 2015 #195

Last I heard Sanders has a phone Armstead Aug 2015 #183

Yeah, no Latinos in Huston, Dallas or Phoenix. 3 SW rallies so far. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #191

The Houston event was 90% white Gothmog Aug 2015 #196

And yet Houston is in Texas, where Castro says Sanders has never been. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #210

Do you wonder why people are not rushing to support Sanders? Gothmog Aug 2015 #217

What the fuck does that mean? You are the one defending the liar Castro. It is you who makes your Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #222

Again, it is no wonder why people are being turned off of Sanders by his supporters Gothmog Aug 2015 #223

So Castro lies casually while denigrating others unjustly. Good to know. Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #187

I don't think I would go there. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #192

What does that mean? He's either spouting off on a subject he respects so little he did not learn Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #203

I agree he stated Bernie did not go to Texas when in fact he did, he stated Bernie did not go to the Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #212

And Hillary has been to THE Valley 112 times since she announced? Or zero? Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #215

he lied. deal with it cali Aug 2015 #208

Read the article. Castro lied twice, the reporter who wrote the article included the truth. Autumn Sep 2015 #296

Clinton Natl Political Director Amanda Renteria is a Latina "First" Gothmog Aug 2015 #193

And he still lied. cali Aug 2015 #209

Your rather sad posts are what convinced me to donate to Clinton and go see this lady Gothmog Aug 2015 #216

Good cause. Thank you riversedge Sep 2015 #299

She is impressive. I donated to her when she ran in the last election. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #271

It will get much worse madville Aug 2015 #198

"Contrary to Castro's statement, Sanders has visited Texas as a candidate" George II Aug 2015 #221

"I've never met the gentleman. {He} has not visited Texas or the Rio Grande Valley." Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #225

You didn't read the article, did you. George II Aug 2015 #226

I read it. "He has not visited Texas or the Rio Grande Valley," on Sunday Autumn Aug 2015 #264

I wish I could post this in BIGGER FONT.................... George II Aug 2015 #281

On SUNDAY Autumn Aug 2015 #283

You're still refusing to read EVERYTHING that he said. ..bye! George II Sep 2015 #290

I don't need to comment on that. that's not the point Autumn Sep 2015 #295

Wrong. okasha Aug 2015 #229

BINGO! George II Aug 2015 #235

Oh, indeed.Now we can either okasha Aug 2015 #245

I have never called someone else a liar on this site. George II Aug 2015 #247

I think I've called a DU'er a liar once. okasha Aug 2015 #254

And Democrats, none at all. Errors are made. Remember the GOP yelling 'Liar!' at PBO during a SOTU? freshwest Aug 2015 #263

Yes she has been to Texas as a candidate. hrmjustin Aug 2015 #236

She actually has been there twice - June to Austin for her big voting rights address, and August.... George II Aug 2015 #238

If you read the article Sanders admits he needs to do better at outreach to minority communities. hrmjustin Aug 2015 #227

Gosh, that totally excuses Hillary having pants on fire liars jfern Aug 2015 #267

Care to explain your hysterical response? hrmjustin Aug 2015 #268

Try reading the OP jfern Aug 2015 #270

I did read it. Try answering my question. hrmjustin Aug 2015 #273

But, per his supporters ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #277

And how dare anyone else say or think different. hrmjustin Aug 2015 #279

Noooooooooooo, not quite Armstead Sep 2015 #285

What "innuendo"? ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #288

The uncompleted logistical challenges of a campaign, meaning more than it is Armstead Sep 2015 #292

Okay. It must be really tiring to go through all of that to find offense. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #293

It's tiring, but requires no effort to find that shit. All it takes is watching the news.... Armstead Sep 2015 #294

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #297

U.S. Rep. Joaquin Castro is either incredibly uninformed or a liar. Hiraeth Aug 2015 #253

I'm shocked, shocked I say that Hillary's probable VP candidate would lie about Bernie. Autumn Aug 2015 #262

Wrong Castro as probable VP nominee Godhumor Aug 2015 #272

Oh his brother? Well that explains his action. Autumn Aug 2015 #274

This is for sure: We shan't be questioning the Castro Brothers' wish to climb that political ladder. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #282

K & R SunSeeker Sep 2015 #287

I have read the article, I have posted Bernie has Texas twice, in Dallas and Houston, Joaquin said Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #298

Exactly. Just flying to Texas for your own self-promotion doesn't mean he met with R B Garr Sep 2015 #304

the flop sweat is palpable MoveIt Sep 2015 #302