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Hekate

(90,189 posts)
133. First: checking that this isn't the BS Group. Second: how has he handled it up to now? .....
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 03:10 AM
Sep 2015

He's been inside that same Congress for decades. How's he doing on turning that whole thing around?

Obama's motto was Yes WE Can. He never dismissed his followers after his election by saying, "I'll take it from here." It was always supposed to be WE. Yet everybody went home and waited for him to wave his magic wand and bitched like mad and then stayed home during the midterm elections.

Sure, he mistakenly thought he could work with the GOP. But in addition to that, WE abandoned him.

Beware of your followers, Bernie.

good luck with that dsc Aug 2015 #1
The difference is that there was no mass movement on gun control Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #6
actually there was and is such a movement dsc Aug 2015 #8
No, I wish there was a mass movement but there is really not one Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #19
Well done Bjorn fasttense Aug 2015 #86
Well done yourself, fasttense Stainless Aug 2015 #103
The mass movement that is needed is not about one issue. What this movement once mobilized, has to sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #115
That's actually a good example of DC refusing to listen to the public over their own system. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #43
I agree. Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #44
So let's say he gets the amount of millions of people to get him elected do you expect . FloridaBlues Aug 2015 #70
He is talking about building a long term movement Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #73
"... and are succeeding at creating right now." Scuba Aug 2015 #11
Um, you're basically saying the same thing he is Armstead Aug 2015 #17
It will take a political revolution Martin Eden Aug 2015 #18
Here's the thing dsc Aug 2015 #33
He is indeed saying that, and it's easy(ier) to bring about in a Presidential election Volaris Aug 2015 #62
Yep. Ain't gonna happen unless WE change Congress and replace Republicans and DINOs BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #26
What 2010 showed us was what happens when you don't even try to do what LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #124
100,000 people marching in Washington can change the status quo. grahamhgreen Aug 2015 #58
I firmly agree. olegramps Aug 2015 #116
So don't try, because it's hard? Fearless Aug 2015 #119
If Bernie's voters actually LISTEN to Bernie ... staggerleem Aug 2015 #121
Yes there is dsc Aug 2015 #123
obama thought the same with his mandate and grassroot. didnt happen. sanders can believe he is seabeyond Aug 2015 #2
Sanders is outlining a strategy that differs from Obama's. Jim Lane Aug 2015 #10
i get it. i dont buy it. but, if he wins it would be interesting to watch. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #16
If he wins JackInGreen Aug 2015 #54
with rings on my fingers and bells on my toes, lots of excitement and fun to be had. stickers on seabeyond Aug 2015 #56
I font get that excited for anything but cake JackInGreen Aug 2015 #59
ha ha. that is cute. no, i am stuck in very red. any smart talking left leaning dem really turns seabeyond Aug 2015 #61
My excitement level for Hillary would depend on what she pushes. Jim Lane Aug 2015 #64
sanders is my third choice. he is also dem. there are some really tough things about him that makes seabeyond Aug 2015 #66
You are right about one thing hueymahl Aug 2015 #93
he claims, declares, states, .... he is NOT a liberal. he does not want people to get confused. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #95
Sort of Correct hueymahl Aug 2015 #98
lmao... you are telling sanders he is sorta correct when HE defines himself? priceless seabeyond Aug 2015 #100
I am sorry I am not being more clear hueymahl Aug 2015 #105
however you define liberal, which is one of the very issues on du. whose defined liberal. sanders seabeyond Aug 2015 #106
Fair enough, and I do not know exactly why he says it this way hueymahl Aug 2015 #109
thanks. that is all i am saying. i might check it out. it was interesting sittin around reading seabeyond Aug 2015 #110
i guess this is why i laugh. if i am a supporter, and i hear sanders has clearly stated he is not a seabeyond Aug 2015 #108
Yep, take it to the people and ask them to demand it. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #30
I agree. I remember how JFK courted the press.. mountain grammy Aug 2015 #34
Absolutely PADemD Aug 2015 #36
Again. Sanders is a realist. He is not going to have to pander to donors who have two feet JDPriestly Aug 2015 #50
Sanders gives credit where credit is due Armstead Aug 2015 #13
it is from his perspective. just cause he calls it does not mean he is always correct. seabeyond Aug 2015 #15
You are correct that some may diagree ......Wotta country. Armstead Aug 2015 #21
lol. ah ha.... ;). yup. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #23
ummmmm....nooooooooo... primary him (Obama) doesnt sound pro Obama uponit7771 Sep 2015 #132
Let's hope Bernie doesn't waste his first two years bending over for the republifucks. L0oniX Aug 2015 #46
Baloney. Obama got everything he wanted. He is a conservative thru and thru. He didn't want rhett o rick Aug 2015 #77
baloney seabeyond Aug 2015 #78
Which side of the TPP debate are you on? The unions side or the big corporations side? rhett o rick Aug 2015 #79
neither. i dont have enough information to make an informed decision and i do not trust either side seabeyond Aug 2015 #81
So you think the unions might be lying and the corporations might be telling the truth? rhett o rick Aug 2015 #82
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #85
The Unions are for the Keystone XL pipeline. Are they wrong in this instance? FSogol Aug 2015 #91
i think everyone has an agenda and i have a responsibility to be as informed as possible. seabeyond Aug 2015 #97
Couldn't agree more. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2015 #99
because he shut down every part of it just as he was sworn in. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2015 #107
i agree. i did not like that either. i wonder if it is his personality and the way he walks life seabeyond Aug 2015 #113
Yeah, ok BeyondGeography Aug 2015 #3
Huummm, I wonder why Bernie has not negotiated with Congress since he is a member and knows Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #4
But he has.... HappyPlace Aug 2015 #7
And he's failed. That lackluster legislative history of his will follow him into the White House, BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #28
Inference from your reply: we must give in to whomever is in Congress, GOP, Tea Party, etc. HappyPlace Aug 2015 #31
No. What I'm saying is, change Congress. I'm saying this out of frustration BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #37
Thank you for your Hard Effort BCD Marty McGraw Aug 2015 #120
He co-sponsored over 5,000 bills Cry Aug 2015 #52
How many of his 300 sponsored bills saw the light of day and became law? BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #57
Can you name someone who has done more than Sanders and is seeking nomination? Hiraeth Aug 2015 #88
Goes to show how Congress has drifted away from the needs of the working middle class. DhhD Aug 2015 #102
Because most of Congress is corrupt and does not care about the working class Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #9
In fact I do keep up with what happens in congress, ergo, Congress does not fall in step very easily Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #72
He got community health care centers included in the ACA. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #45
...and then there all those jobs that China lost over all the trade deals. L0oniX Aug 2015 #47
I recon it's because there are 3 branches of government... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #48
Thanks for bringing this up. Sen Sanders has been more active in helping the 99% than many rhett o rick Aug 2015 #80
vague generalities run riot - any of us could have given that answer msongs Aug 2015 #5
You think it would be a good idea for the Dems to obstruct President Sanders? frylock Aug 2015 #25
We'll vote them out in 2018. n/t L0oniX Aug 2015 #49
Well, that's settled! zappaman Aug 2015 #12
He's said this repeatedly. LWolf Aug 2015 #14
What Bernie means is that he wants sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #20
BINGO! BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #39
Real change always comes from outside pressure. DirkGently Aug 2015 #22
REAL change starts local. this is why i see the fail on this one. not interested in seabeyond Aug 2015 #24
You want Sanders to run for local school board? 8) DirkGently Aug 2015 #32
right. that is what i said.... done with silly statements. seabeyond Aug 2015 #35
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #27
He's kinda like Obama HassleCat Aug 2015 #29
The Party Establishment Democrats were against Obama from the get-go. He received NO support BlueCaliDem Aug 2015 #38
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Aug 2015 #40
K&R. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #41
Unless Sanders plans to become a dictator he isn't going to shovel anything past Historic NY Aug 2015 #42
Bernie would need to compromise to get anything done. JoePhilly Aug 2015 #51
They'd have to vote in the right representatives treestar Aug 2015 #53
In this instance, BS is full of it... GitRDun Aug 2015 #55
Which agenda? He could have had a million people march in Wash for Medicare for All. grahamhgreen Aug 2015 #60
Really? GitRDun Aug 2015 #63
Which particular proposals? I mean nobodies going to march for the TTP, or a war on Libya.... grahamhgreen Aug 2015 #65
Come on... GitRDun Aug 2015 #69
I'm sorry but you are wrong fasttense Aug 2015 #87
Lol OK GitRDun Aug 2015 #111
Some of us are on planet Earth LiberalLovinLug Aug 2015 #122
Bullshit? GitRDun Aug 2015 #126
Bullshit by any other name LiberalLovinLug Aug 2015 #128
My "post is a load of cow manure" GitRDun Aug 2015 #129
I apologize if I offended with my language LiberalLovinLug Sep 2015 #130
I think you misunderstand GitRDun Sep 2015 #131
What do you use to support that contention? mythology Aug 2015 #114
yes. how soon people forget. nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #68
No, Bernie is highlighting a legitimate difference in tactics. Jim Lane Aug 2015 #74
I hear your points, but, respectfully GitRDun Aug 2015 #75
Your math is too simplistic Jim Lane Aug 2015 #83
OK we agree to disagree GitRDun Aug 2015 #104
You mean when Rahm called liberals "fucking retarded" what he really meant was LondonReign2 Aug 2015 #125
Impressive retort GitRDun Aug 2015 #127
There's a huge movement on the threshold. The revolution is already in motion beginning with... Pauldg47 Aug 2015 #67
And we still have 14 months till Nov. 2016. Tht's a lot of time -- especially for someone Cal33 Aug 2015 #71
Minues the months after the primary till NOV. You riversedge Aug 2015 #76
Yes. I'm assuuming he will win the nomination. He is winning over even quite a few Cal33 Aug 2015 #84
I can't wait for the debates! lonestarnot Aug 2015 #101
And there you go libodem Aug 2015 #89
The tool suggest that Bernies program is ambitious. Truth is that all other programs are unambitious Jemmons Aug 2015 #90
yawn Gloria Aug 2015 #92
And all the anti-Bernie crowds continues with can't, can't, can't, can't, can't.... SoapBox Aug 2015 #94
Thank you, Cheese! marym625 Aug 2015 #96
I love Bernie but that doesn't explain how he will get his agenda thru Congress WI_DEM Aug 2015 #112
I think he did say that the way to get to Congress is to get the American people interested Cal33 Aug 2015 #117
I opened this thread Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #118
First: checking that this isn't the BS Group. Second: how has he handled it up to now? ..... Hekate Sep 2015 #133
I feel like it was true Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #135
President Obama did NOT saY "I'll take it from here" BainsBane Sep 2015 #134
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