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BlueCaliDem

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52. "Tell me why you think Hillary is the best candidate." I'll play.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 10:28 AM
Sep 2015

It's very simple really. She doesn't differ all that much from Bernie Sanders when it comes to policies she'd like to push for, and unlike him, she can actually make it happen even with this Congress. In fact, she's far more progressive than her husband was and was already to the left of Obama back in 2008, and she has plenty of allies in Congress to help her. Sanders has none. Well, maybe Rand Paul.

And then there's basic math.

70-80% African-Americans support Hillary Clinton.

73% Hispanics/Latinos (and growing) support Hillary Clinton.

I don't know what the percentage will be among Asian-Americans, but President Obama received 73% of the Asian-American vote in 2012, and I don't doubt we'll support Hillary Clinton (if Joe Biden doesn't declare) over Bernie Sanders. Although we lean Democratic despite being the highest educated and having the highest income of any demographic - including Whites - and therefore should be leaning Republican, outright racist comments and experiencing racism and inequality in our personal lives plays a large role in pushing us to support the Democratic Party but not outright Socialists. We're still semi-conservative in heart and soul (some of us are pretty conservative socially, for example). Bernie Sanders is too liberal for most of us.

Also, according to FiveThirtyEight, Hillary Clinton has all but locked up the lion's share of endorsements from congressional Dems.
102 U.S. House Reps;
30 U.S. Senators;
7 Dem Governors.

Delegates:

She's also locked up 60% of delegates *needed in order to win the nomination.
How important are delegates?
In the 2008 campaign, Clinton actually won a plurality of the Democratic popular vote amassing 18 million votes to Barack Obama’s 17.6 million, but she fell short on the delegate count, losing to Obama by less than 100 delegates.

To date, Bernie Sanders has not gotten a single delegate pledge.

Obama did everything he could to work with Republicans. Considering how bitterly Republicans have attacked Hillary since at least 1992, I do not see how she could work with them at all.

President Obama didn't need Republicans to push through his agenda and that was a good thing since they showed an unprecedented zeal for obstructing him every which way they can. He still beat them - and is doing so now regarding the Iran Deal despite Dems being the minority in both chambers of Congress. Hillary Clinton, apparently, won't need them, either, because she'll have Democrats to back her up. Bernie Sanders, not having made friends in Congress in his 24+ years there, might not.

*edited to add those six words.
Maybe by 2106 her positions will "evolve" enough WDIM Sep 2015 #1
In 2106 I'm suspecting I would be dead by then LynneSin Sep 2015 #25
Hey now Flying Squirrel Sep 2015 #31
The Iroquois believed all decisions should consider the impact on the next 7 generations. WDIM Sep 2015 #47
To Hillary's supporters, policy is irrelevant LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #58
You are, of course, correct. Maedhros Sep 2015 #2
Of course Sanders would be LESS likely to try and change the culture...if he ended up losing brooklynite Sep 2015 #63
The question is Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #3
Is anyone allowed to support Hillary? Metric System Sep 2015 #4
of course they are! ibegurpard Sep 2015 #5
I don't think that at all. It's Sanders supporters who can't seem to allow others to express their Metric System Sep 2015 #6
You can write what you want on DU. You can respond to any JDPriestly Sep 2015 #8
Oh I know...those awful Sanders supporters! ibegurpard Sep 2015 #9
How, by not agreeing with you? daleanime Sep 2015 #21
No, by attacking and demonizing anyone who dares to support Hillary over Bernie. Metric System Sep 2015 #22
For fuck sake. There is a massive gap for me between claiming someone is wrong Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #27
Do you think it's OK for Sanders supporters to inundate his Facebook page simply because he Metric System Sep 2015 #33
Yes it's okay...That's why they have that little "write a comment" button Armstead Sep 2015 #39
Have I let that stop me... daleanime Sep 2015 #30
The OP was not attacking "anyone who dares to support Hillary" Armstead Sep 2015 #34
Cite the quote from my OP that demonizes anyone who supports JDPriestly Sep 2015 #42
I have stated my opinion, and some of my reasons for it. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #7
Be prepard for crickets....Just that you're a bad person for saying "mean things" Armstead Sep 2015 #36
the fed audit was a huge deal questionseverything Sep 2015 #50
"Tell me why you think Hillary is the best candidate." I'll play. BlueCaliDem Sep 2015 #52
It's early in the campaign. We haven't even held our first debate. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #54
Not a Clinton Supporter yet... onpatrol98 Sep 2015 #57
Delegates can change their minds. And they will if the primary results suggest that JDPriestly Sep 2015 #59
Is anyone allowed to disagree with endorsements? m-lekktor Sep 2015 #10
NO! ibegurpard Sep 2015 #13
All those endorsements from party leaders who have jwirr Sep 2015 #72
If you think bombarding Howard Dean's Facebook page with angry and threatening posts is Metric System Sep 2015 #26
I just looked at Dean's page.... Armstead Sep 2015 #35
Is the op's factual thoughtful point by point analysis throwing mud? Not in my mind. Vincardog Sep 2015 #37
can you provide examples of some of those "angry and threatening posts"? frylock Sep 2015 #62
Has anyone disallowed it? Scootaloo Sep 2015 #14
I will take Dean's learned opinion over some guy on the internet. n/t Evergreen Emerald Sep 2015 #11
Speaking of internet opinions... TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #29
I'll read both.... daleanime Sep 2015 #32
But what if my opinion is more learned than his? JDPriestly Sep 2015 #43
She should live so long. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2015 #12
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #15
Reaching across the aisle FlatBaroque Sep 2015 #16
You really said it. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #44
This goes against what Howard has been saying for years Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #17
I didn't know Hillary co-sponsored a flag burning bill. jalan48 Sep 2015 #18
I would guess she thought it was a smart political move dflprincess Sep 2015 #19
Some Democrats really are turning into Republicans. Unreal. jalan48 Sep 2015 #20
Yup. John Poet Sep 2015 #23
Flag-burning has always been a major threat . . . . to some dictator somewhere in the world. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #60
When I learned about flag etiquette burning was the proper disposal method for flags Vincardog Sep 2015 #38
Very good question. And yes I learned that also. jwirr Sep 2015 #73
She moistened her finger, put it in the wind, and decided that that was the way to go. kath Sep 2015 #41
Dean never got over being destroyed by the elite's in his party Geronimoe Sep 2015 #24
I campaigned for Bernie at a community event tonight, a very casual JDPriestly Sep 2015 #45
I still remain with Hill, but I must acknowledge the effort oasis Sep 2015 #40
Well done. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #48
She's a weak candidate now and will be weaker if she gets the nomination. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #46
Hall of Fame post! Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #49
Does this mean Howard Dean is not entitled to have an opinion and to speak freely of his opinion? Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #51
Yes, "I disagree and here is why" is exactly the same jeff47 Sep 2015 #55
Think I have heard the "Shut up" comment before. Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #65
As have I. Many times. Doesn't mean this person is saying it though. jeff47 Sep 2015 #67
Howard Dean is not only entitled to his opinion, but because of the position he has earned, JDPriestly Sep 2015 #61
Rebuttal, on the Goldwater staunch supporter, FACT: Goldwater ran for president in 1964. Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #66
She campaigned for him according to Wikipedia. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #69
Did she vote for him? Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #70
Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Sep 2015 #53
I don't get it.... pinebox Sep 2015 #56
Thanks. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #71
Stop being mean to Howard! ibegurpard Sep 2015 #64
And there is this. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #68
More facts about this: (from a report published in 2005) JDPriestly Sep 2015 #74
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