2016 Postmortem

BainsBane

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123. She is talking to the people and LISTENING

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:51 AM

Sep 2015

It's not backyard deals. Some of these meetings have even been on CSPAN. No, how could she know about the array of people's lives and their issues without talking to them? You don't. I don't. We know about our own lives. The only way one learns about other people's experiences is by listening to them.

Politics is not meant to be entertainment or spectacle, like a rock concert. It's personal relationships and constituent service. What you are seeing in the Democratic party that you all decry as favoritism is the result of decades of building relationships. These congress people endorse Clinton because she meets with them and asks for their support, as she meets with the unions and other citizen groups. No one is entitled to support from any single voter, group, or any endorsement. They have to do the work to earn it, and that is precisely what Clinton has been doing. It's completely the opposite of what the other poster described.

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Dr. Jane Goodall flamed online after shaking hands with Hillary. [View all] RandySF Sep 2015 OP

those evil bernie supporters virtualobserver Sep 2015 #1

So by posting a false accusation that no one is making… you try to mask KittyWampus Sep 2015 #127

first.....the article was bogus......I went to Jane Goodall's facebook virtualobserver Sep 2015 #142

+1 Scootaloo Sep 2015 #227

What virtualobserver said Android3.14 Sep 2015 #155

And Clinton's supporters are all so polite and respectful and well behaved, Armstead Sep 2015 #2

From what I see on DU, yes we are. RandySF Sep 2015 #5

No. You're not. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #9

Amen to that. John Poet Sep 2015 #16

Maybe they get it from their candidate. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #34

Except if you look at how the candidates have run their campaigns so far BainsBane Sep 2015 #72

there you are being all condescending and stuff, like you know everything baines. dare to point out seabeyond Sep 2015 #88

But she was humble enough BainsBane Sep 2015 #124

ya know. this whole conversation is shift me to seabeyond Sep 2015 #125

Dare to speak in an sentence? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #205

Bernie's had been geared toward large areas where he gives speeches AlbertCat Sep 2015 #120

She is talking to the people and LISTENING BainsBane Sep 2015 #123

and LISTENING AlbertCat Sep 2015 #126

I happened to see your post BainsBane Sep 2015 #194

race. i just compared it to a sport event, a race. lol. competition. decades. seabeyond Sep 2015 #128

instead of ignoring dissing trashing AlbertCat Sep 2015 #132

i do not do groups. i do not know that i have ever purposely walked in that group. seabeyond Sep 2015 #136

Politics is not meant to be entertainment or spectacle, like a rock concert. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #129

when i do competition, when i put my head down for a race, it is not about entertaining. seabeyond Sep 2015 #131

when i do competition.... AlbertCat Sep 2015 #134

you deny the politician in sanders. i do not. i find this fascinating. and i see the politician seabeyond Sep 2015 #138

Bullshit. eom Fawke Em Sep 2015 #206

That has NOTHING to do with what I said. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #204

Condescending--- that's their one very common quality AlbertCat Sep 2015 #135

fug what she says, it is her tone? and. lol. and. men telling us we are only voting clinton cause seabeyond Sep 2015 #139

men telling us AlbertCat Sep 2015 #140

when a white tells a black. when a man tells a women. ya. there is a difference. seabeyond Sep 2015 #168

Well... Fawke Em Sep 2015 #207

The article isn't about snarky and condescending BainsBane Sep 2015 #69

The article isn't about snarky and condescending AlbertCat Sep 2015 #137

And, not infrequently, a good deal worse than that. Repeately claiming your behavior is superior merrily Sep 2015 #74

Bravo Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #79

"HRC supporters are snarky and condescending". And, BS supporters are not? Cha Sep 2015 #201

So you're saying they are very Hillaryish? L0oniX Sep 2015 #222

OH puleezze. Most if us on DU get excessive in our zeal. Be intellectually honest about it. Armstead Sep 2015 #20

oh come on! lol wendylaroux Sep 2015 #153

The weird thing is, Bernie isn't even running for President...his supporters are. virtualobserver Sep 2015 #10

LOL! And all many millions of them are exactly alike, too. merrily Sep 2015 #75

like we had a choice!....you remember what it was like, before we separated back at the hive..... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #80

You missed the buzz? merrily Sep 2015 #81

uh, yes he is restorefreedom Sep 2015 #111

I should have added the virtualobserver Sep 2015 #113

no there was no need for you to do that restorefreedom Sep 2015 #116

Well, merrily Sep 2015 #117

yeah i have seen some of his "supporters" restorefreedom Sep 2015 #176

Not surprised by this at all. If you dare support Hillary (or just have a pic with her) be prepared Metric System Sep 2015 #3

And vice versa Armstead Sep 2015 #22

Really? Where? Metric System Sep 2015 #23

Everywhere...For starters: Do you ever visit that place called DU and read the threads? Armstead Sep 2015 #42

I support Bernie.. cannabis_flower Sep 2015 #103

i feel the same about all three. i was just thinking, if a sanders rally came around me, would be seabeyond Sep 2015 #105

Yeah, and then victims that they are.. they try to project it on to others.. Not working. Cha Sep 2015 #202

Sanders , the Great Satan . TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #4

This isn't about Sanders at all. It's about some of his supporters. Metric System Sep 2015 #7

Sure it is ... TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #12

Huh? I dragged what now? Metric System Sep 2015 #14

There is a long history of Hillary hate on this site. hrmjustin Sep 2015 #39

There is also a long history on this site of labeling any criticism of Hillary as hate merrily Sep 2015 #78

There's a long history of Democrat hate on this site. KittyWampus Sep 2015 #130

more so now. we have a democratic candidate whose base is middle and working class poeple seabeyond Sep 2015 #133

Who may not be his supporters. There are thousands upon thousands of paid trolls on the internet Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #28

So it never happened? RandySF Sep 2015 #19

Jane Goodall was never flamed. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #228

This has become all too typical. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #6

This was alerted, FYI. Nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #8

Of course it was Alerted on.. they can't handle facts being brought TO LIGHT about the online Cha Sep 2015 #59

Unfuckingbelievable. nt SunSeeker Sep 2015 #70

I like your Sanders... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #11

You don't have to like me, but know your disdain only feeds my inner beast. Now I'm really Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #64

you do realize thats a play on what Ghandi VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #67

Went right over his head, apparently Hekate Sep 2015 #68

This was alerted on ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2015 #13

I wouldn't be surprised if it is given the state of the jury system. Metric System Sep 2015 #17

Nope ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2015 #25

I was either #1, 5, 6 or 7! Suich Sep 2015 #61

Yeah this is old ibegurpard Sep 2015 #15

I never saw it posted before. RandySF Sep 2015 #18

But you saw the date ibegurpard Sep 2015 #24

It's highly relevant to the behavior on display on Howard Dean's Facebook page. Metric System Sep 2015 #21

those awful awful Sanders supporters ibegurpard Sep 2015 #27

You must be a part of the mob on his Facebook page. Metric System Sep 2015 #29

Nope ibegurpard Sep 2015 #33

Really. What kind of behavior was displayed? Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #32

People saying Dean is wrong, and saying how much they like Bernie Armstead Sep 2015 #43

Whoa! That is horrible! The horribleness of the rabble horribly expressing their horrible opinions. Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #56

I said "Come on Howard Dean. Feel the Bern! Yeah!" Was that really over the top? You guys got Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #65

Some really soft and delicate feels? merrily Sep 2015 #83

Jury results: 1-6 to keep, and an irony alert stevenleser Sep 2015 #26

The alerter clearly didn't read the article or even the comments under the article which provide Metric System Sep 2015 #31

dredging up stuff from July for the "Bernie supporters are bad" meme virtualobserver Sep 2015 #40

This is about his supporters, not him. hrmjustin Sep 2015 #41

this OP is BS, I read the posts- only 4 mentioned Bernie- none of them were unpleasant virtualobserver Sep 2015 #46

I looked back through the comments on Jane Goodall's facebook page. The Huff-Post article lies. Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #47

Not a surprise. merrily Sep 2015 #77

Really? Because posters on this thread said they read the comments back to July and there is no merrily Sep 2015 #101

Another bullshit attempt to silence a HRC supporter. hrmjustin Sep 2015 #37

I love that the frontrunner is the fucking victim. This is disgraceful. Slimy. This is shit- Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #66

No, she is not the front runner on DU. That's like saying Obama and his supporters stevenleser Sep 2015 #223

Sanders supporters hijack threads here as well. zappaman Sep 2015 #30

Your not llowed to post positive stuff about Hillary outside of the HRC room. hrmjustin Sep 2015 #38

Sorry, you got a hide, Justin, for telling it like it is. You merely told the truth and they can't Cha Sep 2015 #51

This is getting ridiculous. Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #54

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #35

This post seems like bullshit and lies. Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #36

I wasted my time reading all of the posts....no Bernie supporter was trashing Hillary......... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #48

I read them too, back to July. Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #50

The reality is, this swarm of unsupported "Bernie supporters are bad"..posts in this thread virtualobserver Sep 2015 #52

Mmmmmm..... Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #55

yeah, the heat of the moment virtualobserver Sep 2015 #57

NO BERNIE SUPPORTER TRASHED HILLARY? NO BULLYING OF GOODALL? The OP article is bullshit? merrily Sep 2015 #82

the example in the article.... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #84

No. Especially not if I had worked with apes all my life. Or posted in Gd:P for a day. merrily Sep 2015 #85

Oh the horror!!! Autumn Sep 2015 #92

It's a meme some Bernie supporters themselves perpetuate. SunSeeker Sep 2015 #73

Total class act, there. nt Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #106

Let's see.... AlbertCat Sep 2015 #159

Gleefully trashing Dean on his Facebook page is not merely expressing "disappointment." SunSeeker Sep 2015 #167

How do you attack a FaceBook page? AlbertCat Sep 2015 #170

Ask the Bernie supporters doing it to Dean's page. SunSeeker Sep 2015 #174

Still don't see an attack. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #175

If that's your idea of an attack, you really need to get out more often. frylock Sep 2015 #232

I think its now official: Bernie is a Democratic-ish Ron Paul ericson00 Sep 2015 #44

you didn't read the posts virtualobserver Sep 2015 #49

A. The OP article is bullshit. See Reply 84, among others. Bernie doesn't motivate his supporters merrily Sep 2015 #86

Shocker. nt onehandle Sep 2015 #45

hrmjustin got a hide and timeout in this OP, results.... stevil Sep 2015 #53

Mahalo stevil.. Justin got a hide for speaking the truth. Cha Sep 2015 #60

for speaking the truth. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #177

Justin is right.. the "evidence" is all over the board. Cha Sep 2015 #181

And the Jurors were right .. TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #185

No, the "jurors" were Wrong in Censoring Justin. Cha Sep 2015 #190

evidence of what? AlbertCat Sep 2015 #188

Yes, the evidence all over the board. Even Hillary's Group where BS Disruptors come into bash Cha Sep 2015 #191

Juror 7 nails it SwampG8r Sep 2015 #90

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #93

They bully because they can. That's what happened there. That's how far their "Progressivism" goes stevenleser Sep 2015 #141

Why don't you go have a look at the interfaith group or prayer circle AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #145

He can't silence anybody. Only an alerter and 4+ jurors can do that. If he outdebated folks in those stevenleser Sep 2015 #146

No, he was host of both AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #147

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #179

I guess we have secret methods and such. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #189

Ok, I gotta ask... Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #149

Interfaith SOP says faith and non-faith. AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #150

Not what I asked, but that's okay. Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #156

I didn't 'crash it' I was supposedly welcome, and I'm not going to play your AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #158

Yep, okay... Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #160

Your question reveals the conclusion you came to before you even asked it. AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #161

lol Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #162

I can be blunt. Sure. AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #163

would want to crash a prayer circle or interfaith group. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #182

Do you have a thing for me tonight? Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #193

I see you were blocked from both groups as well. I can't imagine why. rug Sep 2015 #217

Ah, so this is personal. I see you were blocked from both groups. rug Sep 2015 #216

Right. Want to point out something I didn't already tell everyone in this thread? AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #219

Mob behavior is facinating, no? nt Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #148

Mob behavior is facinating, no? AlbertCat Sep 2015 #183

WTF are you on about?? Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #192

It is. Watching this unfold is something else. stevenleser Sep 2015 #198

where was the "debate" about Bernie offered in this thread? passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #231

Who are this "they"? AlbertCat Sep 2015 #178

Yeah um when you get to 85% of a population having a particular characteristic, a random sample of seven of the population stevenleser Sep 2015 #199

LOL! Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #96

Justin is a HE. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #184

"Well, when one whines all the time.... " rug Sep 2015 #218

That comment was wrong from top to bottom, starting with his gender. rug Sep 2015 #215

not breaking any rule, but a sanders supporter just tired of this discussion, so hide. seabeyond Sep 2015 #91

Hideable or not, the idea that about 85% of DU posters make DU suck could stand examination. merrily Sep 2015 #99

who cares if it is hideable or not. sanders people rule du so suck it up or go elsewhere? seabeyond Sep 2015 #100

I'm not the one saying Hillary supporters suck. He's the one saying Bernie's supporters suck. merrily Sep 2015 #102

i will stand by my reply, per what you said. nt seabeyond Sep 2015 #107

I would not underscore that, if I were you, but whatever. merrily Sep 2015 #110

my point, people that know better, ignore the fact that following the rules is not the discussion. seabeyond Sep 2015 #112

conclusion. hence, not only keeping him off this thread, but by a concerted effort, getting this seabeyond Sep 2015 #114

Again the OP article is bullshit. See Replies on this thread listed in my reply 104. merrily Sep 2015 #115

you totally ignored our reality on du. it is like the man having an affair. the woman sees seabeyond Sep 2015 #118

Your perceptions do not necessarily equal reality, at least not anything I consider reality. merrily Sep 2015 #119

look. we have an example in this thread. i laid it out. i am done. seabeyond Sep 2015 #121

Yep. In this thread, we have an example of bullshit that people spread about Bernie's supporters. merrily Sep 2015 #122

Justin attacked people. Why is that hard to understand. AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #154

I disagree. 85% of DI posters make DI suck. Same concept. nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #152

Oh that's brilliant steve. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #180

justin and bravenaks silencing is pretty reich wing don't you think? stevenleser Sep 2015 #197

so are you saying we are all "reich wing" - a bunch of nazis? Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #210

If you participated in their getting a timeout or condone it you are engaging in right wing behavior stevenleser Sep 2015 #212

How exactly does one "participate" such that Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #213

~ antiquie Sep 2015 #230

Ya know what's RW behavior? Voting for wars, outsourcing, fossil fuels. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #221

It couldn't possibly be because you're just... truebrit71 Sep 2015 #220

All that flailing you are doing doesnt change the facts. Bernie folks are using the jury to silence stevenleser Sep 2015 #224

And no Hillary fan has EVER done that, right? truebrit71 Sep 2015 #225

I will be honest, each day I fire up DU and I dont see an announcement that the owner of DU randys1 Sep 2015 #226

When I see posts hidden "Because they support clinton" I'll buy your line Scootaloo Sep 2015 #229

. AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #144

I stand with Justin. Metric System Sep 2015 #166

WTF is wrong with these people? Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #58

Did you see the OP? BainsBane Sep 2015 #71

That was just bizarre. nt Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #76

i didnt read it. nt seabeyond Sep 2015 #97

I missed it. Could you link me to it please? n/t Control-Z Sep 2015 #169

Here BainsBane Sep 2015 #171

i havent done it yet. but i too am gonna unsubscribe to see if i get the 'joke' too. nt seabeyond Sep 2015 #173

it was interesting. funny, too i thought. i see the joke. ha ha. i also see the political move seabeyond Sep 2015 #172

Many of them accused Obama supporters of being a cult but the support of Bernie much more resembles stevenleser Sep 2015 #200

Dian Fossey would have been a Sandernista nt. MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #62

Yes I heard she was very mean ibegurpard Sep 2015 #63

And the punchline is: Guerrillas in the Mist. betsuni Sep 2015 #89

Holy shit! It's almost like there's a primary and people morningfog Sep 2015 #87

Yeah, like that and one them wrote a bullshit piece for Huffpo and someone posted it at the top of merrily Sep 2015 #98

ya, first, justins hide and kick off du is an example. a couple of the jurors are simply TIRED of seabeyond Sep 2015 #94

second, talking to 22 yr old niece other day. she has friends sanders supporter. i was laying out seabeyond Sep 2015 #95

See Replies 36, 48, 50, 52 and 84 on this thread. The OP article is bullshit. merrily Sep 2015 #104

that really has little to nothing to do with my comment. nt seabeyond Sep 2015 #108

Actually, it does and I don't much care if doesn't. Your reply has zero to do with my comment. merrily Sep 2015 #109

Or maybe DUers are sick of it from both sides-that's why they hide posts from Bernie supporters too. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #187

no that never happens and no prominent bernie supporters have been pprd either. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #209

It's rediculous!!! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #211

DU rec...nt SidDithers Sep 2015 #143

K&R!! Amimnoch Sep 2015 #151

Just a few of the comments............ postatomic Sep 2015 #157

There's the rub indeed Armstead Sep 2015 #164

I just made an observation postatomic Sep 2015 #165

My position is definitely tainted by this. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #186

I have very limited Facebook activity postatomic Sep 2015 #196

More ugly lies about Sanders supporters. Vattel Sep 2015 #195

Sorry to see Dr Goodall -and by extention -her work was used to score riversedge Sep 2015 #203

This is a great example... BooScout Sep 2015 #208

Yeah the Internet... full of assholes. apnu Sep 2015 #214

Remember when Sanders supporters booed Hillary, and on her birthday no less? frylock Sep 2015 #233