2016 Postmortem

kenfrequed

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38. In all fairness...

Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:49 PM

Sep 2015

These Superdelegates have been in place since 1984. It isn't terribly new. On the other hand it is fairly terrible.

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Correction. The system was voted on in 1982. 1984 was the first presidential election it was applied to and that worked soo... Well. (Yes, sarcasm)

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Un-Democratic Democratic Party [View all] HomerRamone Sep 2015 OP

I agree. Strongly agree. With everything you said. djean111 Sep 2015 #1

Thanks. Posted yesterday:Martin O'Malley Slams DNC Effort To 'Rig' Party's 2016 Presidential Nominat elleng Sep 2015 #2

bradblog telling the truth, again AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #3

As always. elleng Sep 2015 #6

So Hillary can't win on the up & up so the system gets rigged. L0oniX Sep 2015 #4

She's rigging herself a Democratic loss in the GE, most likely. 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #10

Her server IT tech pleads the 5th ...makes it look like something is wrong even if it isn't. L0oniX Sep 2015 #29

I've always shied away from the email thing. meh. 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #30

+1 daleanime Sep 2015 #34

I read someone 840high Sep 2015 #39

She just did an interview with Andrea Mitchell. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #78

the party's repeatedly shown they'd rather lose to a Pub with a rightie than win with a populist MisterP Sep 2015 #45

That's why R's rig elections--because they believe they will lose if they don't cheat. Hillary shoul tblue37 Sep 2015 #16

Yep, that's exactly right MissDeeds Sep 2015 #19

In all fairness... kenfrequed Sep 2015 #38

Yes, that's all true.... but John Poet Sep 2015 #63

They're the electoral college of primaries, then. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #79

ah, they're just making damn sure she's inevitable, this time. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #5

When there's such a huge departure on the issues facing US, with so much at stake ... 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #7

I will march with you. bvar22 Sep 2015 #20

My husband and I will, too! eom Duval Sep 2015 #47

1968. jwirr Sep 2015 #8

Yep 1968 zeemike Sep 2015 #41

I watched to and I am just shaking my head now. jwirr Sep 2015 #48

Actually, kenfrequed Sep 2015 #73

Frankly I think TPTB in the party wanted a second Reagan term. zeemike Sep 2015 #74

It boils down to integrity AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #9

Well said, AgingAmerican. Sienna86 Sep 2015 #21

If I may repeat, "It boils down to integrity." nm rhett o rick Sep 2015 #25

The DNC wants to steal an election from the people? in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #11

So what do we do about it? How do we force the issue? WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2015 #12

If Hillary gets the nomination through dirty tricks AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #32

Agree!! Grrrrr eom Duval Sep 2015 #33

...^ that 840high Sep 2015 #40

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #59

While I despise dirty tricks- ncjustice80 Sep 2015 #71

That sort of thinking is exactly why we keep getting Dems who are ever closer to Repubs offered up. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #80

We make a pledge AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #42

The fix is in... Liberaltalker Sep 2015 #14

Hillary's server IT tech pleads the 5th & makes the whole email thing look very bad. L0oniX Sep 2015 #28

Same thing happened in 2008. Super delegates promised ahead of primaries to support Hillary. ieoeja Sep 2015 #81

The DNC doesn't want to lose out on all of that campaign money that goes away under Dustlawyer Sep 2015 #13

+1000 who recovered?! noiretextatique Sep 2015 #55

It's Trickle Down Democracy. Some votes are more equal than regular votes. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #15

Dump Debbie Downer! Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #17

If the DNC fixes this election against the will of democrats, I'm done fbc Sep 2015 #18

What has your State Party said about this? brooklynite Sep 2015 #23

If she gets the nomination AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #36

From your tone I guess you don't care if the DNC shuts down debates. The fewer debates rhett o rick Sep 2015 #43

FWIW, the role of Super Delegates has been in place for Decades... brooklynite Sep 2015 #56

Have you ever considered... AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #60

Your logic needs some help. I voted for Obama both in 2008 and 2012. rhett o rick Sep 2015 #62

Democrats don't tolerate cheating AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #24

This isn't something new. JohnnyRingo Sep 2015 #22

I think this is overblown GitRDun Sep 2015 #26

Terrible. zentrum Sep 2015 #27

Could very well happen HassleCat Sep 2015 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #35

Very strong K/R 840high Sep 2015 #37

Superdelegates have been part of the process for 30 years. NWHarkness Sep 2015 #44

Impossible!! Hillary created the system!!! JoePhilly Sep 2015 #51

Hrm...if only there was a post up there that explained why this time may be different. jeff47 Sep 2015 #67

It's very democratic ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2015 #46

If they pull this unprecedented crap, Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #50

Not to worry... ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2015 #64

Correct. Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #65

I happen to have met a few of these people ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2015 #70

Except Parliamentarian systems are much more responsive to the will of the voters than our system. Romulox Sep 2015 #69

Sen Sanders is getting people enthused that haven't been enthused for a long time. rhett o rick Sep 2015 #49

How many Bernie supporters would not overjoyed if Bernie was leading in the polls and had the Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #52

If the Party nomination is rigged Geronimoe Sep 2015 #53

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Stop already! anthrob Sep 2015 #57

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #58

That has been debunked sooooooooooo man times already. ieoeja Sep 2015 #83

Cajoling superdelegates to declare so early in the cycle is the problem Babel_17 Sep 2015 #61

What DU calls 'superdelegates' are in fact unpledged delegates, this means that any support they Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #66

In other words, Party Bosses not beholden to the will of the people. nt Romulox Sep 2015 #68

Anyone who is unhappy with the Democratic Party, for whatever reason, should...... George II Sep 2015 #72

"find a party more suited to his/her liking." Purveyor Sep 2015 #76

Why wait? Lots of people have been complaining for several years, yet they've done nothing. George II Sep 2015 #82

The delegate count "brag" was a purely defensive move on Clinton's part... modestybl Sep 2015 #75

Yup. Party shenanigans to seat the establishment candidate over the people's choice Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #77

They will force a Bernie Write-In campaign. NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #84

They assumed and rightly so Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #85