2016 Postmortem

Armstead

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11. Here's the dirty little secret answer that Sanders has been hiding

Sat Sep 5, 2015, 02:39 PM

Sep 2015

"But if a progressive Democrat wants to run, I think it would enliven the debate, raise some issues and people have a right to do that," Sanders said. "I've been asked whether I am going to do that. I'm not. I don't know who is, but in a democracy, it's not a bad idea to have different voices out there."

How f'ing awful. And he was so secretive and ashamed he said it on the RADIO.

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Yep the campaign season has finally started Hillary's henchmen are [View all] bigdarryl Sep 2015 OP

You were expecting cream puffs and macaroons? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #1

Hillary supporters seem to expect cream puffs and macaroons from Bernie supporters. virtualobserver Sep 2015 #6

Cream puffs are what Bernie has.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #8

Bernie's secret is that he responds truthfully.....the attacks, if you can call them that.... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #16

"truthfully" is not going to help against the Republicans smear machine... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #17

actually it will be just fine virtualobserver Sep 2015 #26

based on what exactly? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #28

if the polls change, so will Nate Silver's view virtualobserver Sep 2015 #32

Thats a mighty heavy lift... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #98

I don't think that it will be a problem. virtualobserver Sep 2015 #109

You better have another think then.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #110

Luck is unnecessary when you have truth. virtualobserver Sep 2015 #112

I certainly hope so. hifiguy Sep 2015 #118

You are correct and the Republicans will be worse virtualobserver Sep 2015 #136

They got nothin' and they know it. hifiguy Sep 2015 #138

You keep telling yourself that.....and virtually observe him get his ass handed to him on a platter. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #124

you say that because you've never seen a politician run truthfully virtualobserver Sep 2015 #129

Oh no....I never saw a Barack Obama run for office... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #132

you're right, he did run truthfully virtualobserver Sep 2015 #137

Really? Gothmog Sep 2015 #133

the soft Hillary voters will be shaken out if she loses IA and NH virtualobserver Sep 2015 #144

She's inevitable until suddenly she isn't. hifiguy Sep 2015 #151

exactly, then we find out what her core support level is virtualobserver Sep 2015 #153

Iowa and New Hampshire are 90+% white states Gothmog Sep 2015 #182

Do you imagine that voters sit around with demographic scorecards as they observe election results? virtualobserver Sep 2015 #186

Do you know African American voters? Gothmog Sep 2015 #187

I do, but my personal experience is just anecdotal (they support Bernie) virtualobserver Sep 2015 #190

I am happy to wait and see who the nominee will be Gothmog Sep 2015 #207

Given that the highest rate of African American, by state, population in the US is 37.30%, it 1monster Sep 2015 #166

Bernie stays focused silenttigersong Sep 2015 #156

time will tell. I believe he will win. No one I know wants her. No one. None of the womem roguevalley Sep 2015 #183

Pauline Kael: "How did Nixon win? Nobody -I- know voted for him" brooklynite Sep 2015 #212

Wouldn't "truthfully" be the only..... daleanime Sep 2015 #68

Why is it no surprise that you think truthfulness is not the quality you'd want in a candidate? cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #92

The only smear silenttigersong Sep 2015 #149

Vanilla Rhapsody encourages lying as an effective counter to the GOP DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #168

bwahaha. you know jack about him. I do. you are wrong. as usual. cali Sep 2015 #159

"Oh those awful Sanders supporters...Saying bad things about Hillary. oooo. They're so mean." Armstead Sep 2015 #7

Why they are POOPYHEADS! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #10

The more Americans learn about Bernie, the support for Clinton will continue to go down teach me everything Sep 2015 #20

Excuse me....40 YEARS!!! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #21

You are correct. 40 years of Democratic Party shift to the right. teach me everything Sep 2015 #25

And 40 years....he has done what to get the public to know him? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #30

He has (had?) unscreened phone conversations called Brunch with Bernie teach me everything Sep 2015 #54

I literally burst out laughing.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #71

At the end of all the debates teach me everything Sep 2015 #77

You don't know much about HRC do you? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #79

Oh I know all about Clinton teach me everything Sep 2015 #82

Apparently you do not know that she will do just fine in debates??? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #86

Welcome to DU. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #89

Turd polishing? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #99

I don't think either of your comments are turd polished. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #114

The ORIGINAL turd polish! hifiguy Sep 2015 #162

Sure he is..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #165

And before that JFK was making Bernie sick Rose Siding Sep 2015 #108

Except he was a sate leader oin Jessee jackson's Preidential campaign Armstead Sep 2015 #161

It's not just the battle du jour on DU...Itls spread as a meme Armstead Sep 2015 #22

Sanders is most certainly NOT prepared for it..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #38

We disagree...Not an unusual state of affairs /nt Armstead Sep 2015 #44

You bet we do! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #49

The Republicans are scared shitless of him AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #35

They are????? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #43

Yes they are AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #96

right now...to them....he doesn't! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #97

Your fear of the right wing crackpots is.... AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #100

Yeah...they are just "rightwing crackpots" VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #102

Your fear of the right wing crackpots is.... AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #105

I don't fear them....my candidate has had her metal tested against them numerous times.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #107

Your fear of them is.... AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #116

Your lack of fear of them is VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #117

So you do fear them AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #127

Good luck with that.....even Obama nearly fell victim VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #131

Metal? teach me everything Sep 2015 #170

how many elections has she won against a serious RW candidate virtualobserver Sep 2015 #176

THREAD WINNER... FlatBaroque Sep 2015 #152

LOL. Republicans are literally donating to him. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #90

You hang out in places where Republican checks to Democrats ar generated? DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #169

The republicans would find 50 different ways to use Hillary's tirade in the hearing about Benghazi. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #120

LOL not at all I was just wondering when the Clinton attack machine bigdarryl Sep 2015 #14

Backed by the Barack Obama ground team.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #101

This article says you're wrong.. teach me everything Sep 2015 #111

No it doesn't.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #113

Like Water to the wicked witch of the west, it always gets her, the truth . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #122

from the Clintons? Certainly not. I expect sleazy tactics and lying. unlike Sanders, cali Sep 2015 #157

You come across as hightly excited-shocked. Are you sure YOU are ready? riversedge Sep 2015 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #3

"Henchmen". You sure you're on the right site? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #4

A site that supports Democratic values? Android3.14 Sep 2015 #9

Those "henchmen" ARE Democrats. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #12

Who are attacking other Democrats teach me everything Sep 2015 #23

Bernie spent most of his career attacking Democrats. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #27

Got proof? teach me everything Sep 2015 #34

Of course I have proof: SonderWoman Sep 2015 #52

Cite one instance AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #42

How about calling for a primary against first black President. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #48

That was not an 'attack' AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #56

LOL. You forgot the rest: SonderWoman Sep 2015 #58

That is not an attack AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #60

LOL. You keep forgetting to read the link I gave as well. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #63

Obama told you to hold his feet to the fire AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #70

Obama has accomplished more than any president of our lifetime. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #74

I can only speak for myself. If you weren't a bit disappointed in his cabinet assignments Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #104

"Obama has accomplished more than any president of our lifetime." malokvale77 Sep 2015 #150

What, for being black? Scootaloo Sep 2015 #73

That appears to be their (lame) implication n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #128

Not the same. But they've been too much alike on certain issues....an important distinction Armstead Sep 2015 #46

Yeah okay. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #55

I know all about his history Armstead Sep 2015 #65

More spin. Enjoy your weekend. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #81

More deflection...As for the weekend, I'll enjoy it if I can shake this flu before it;s over Armstead Sep 2015 #87

That silly fabrication never gets old! 99Forever Sep 2015 #88

You're too late. I've already provided links. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #94

Of course you have. 99Forever Sep 2015 #160

Are you getting that desperate that you start making things up? nm rhett o rick Sep 2015 #146

Congressman Castro will be the Chair of the Texas Democratic State Convention Gothmog Sep 2015 #135

Oh by then, Castro won't have any control teach me everything Sep 2015 #171

Bernie will be lucky to break 15% and get any delegates in Texas Gothmog Sep 2015 #177

I'm a Hillary supporter to the core if you have read my bigdarryl Sep 2015 #19

Surrogates were already attacking Bernie teach me everything Sep 2015 #37

And if she plays dirty like you say AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #67

How does it feel to have your intent twisted? Armstead Sep 2015 #84

The billionaires that support Clinton have money to burn. Wouldn't be surprised at rhett o rick Sep 2015 #147

yes. henchmen. do think about expanding your vocabulary a tad. cali Sep 2015 #163

A very effective attack against Bernie that will likely be used: Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #5

Here's the dirty little secret answer that Sanders has been hiding Armstead Sep 2015 #11

Thank you. MuseRider Sep 2015 #15

Bill Clinton urged Hillary to run against Pres Obama in 2012. <nt> AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #29

Another. MuseRider Sep 2015 #31

I didn't know that. Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #47

So the robocalls would go something like this: Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #18

You forgot the rest: SonderWoman Sep 2015 #24

Not really Armstead Sep 2015 #39

OK...you think his statement is fine... Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #53

It'd be an ineffective attack because it's the TRUTH n/t teach me everything Sep 2015 #59

Spin! Spin! Spin! SonderWoman Sep 2015 #61

What massive coalition? teach me everything Sep 2015 #72

Never mind. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #76

Seriously... What massive coalition? teach me everything Sep 2015 #80

One day it will all make sense. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #85

Im here to teach you Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #78

Seeing that it's 2012 teach me everything Sep 2015 #93

Well...if you look at the demographic changes in the country Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #115

the one he fractured himself ibegurpard Sep 2015 #91

67 million and 65 million. Both over 50%. MASSIVE. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #103

I votes for him both times ibegurpard Sep 2015 #189

The Barack Obama Ground Team...known this day forward as a "massive coalition" VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #106

I think you have to be well read to truly understand how any President's agenda underthematrix Sep 2015 #148

it shouldn't be walked back ibegurpard Sep 2015 #40

Because raising issues is a bad thing? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #50

hmmmm.... BooScout Sep 2015 #13

Let's just call them party loyalists HassleCat Sep 2015 #33

No, she sends them to echo chamber boot camp for that. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #45

You're kidding, right? HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #51

Going to start? ibegurpard Sep 2015 #36

The good news is that these attacks will lift the media black-out on Bernie HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #41

if you want to start whining about this baby food attack wait till republicans start. FloridaBlues Sep 2015 #64

Who is whining? HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #123

Henechmen?? JoePhilly Sep 2015 #57

I know ibegurpard Sep 2015 #62

Could you point me to some of those OPs. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #69

you need a dictionary. henchmen is accurate usage. you simply don't know the definition cali Sep 2015 #164

They started months ago Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #66

Henchpersons silenttigersong Sep 2015 #75

Time to put on your big boy and big girl pants. This is nothing compared to what the GOP will Metric System Sep 2015 #83

Unleash what, exactly? teach me everything Sep 2015 #125

I can think of a few things but you really should use Google leftofcool Sep 2015 #143

Hillary supporters say "Use Google" teach me everything Sep 2015 #172

2016 is a real test for America. Will smears and attacks continue to win, Ron Green Sep 2015 #95

All third way scum PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #119

So criticizing someone's policy on guns requires a henchman? brooklynite Sep 2015 #121

Nothing to do with guns , it transcends in everything she does or hides from us now, what would she orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #126

I'm confused: it's okay to criticize Clinton's record, but it's NOT okay to criticize Sanders'? brooklynite Sep 2015 #134

If you think that these attacks are nasty, how will you deal with $400 million of Koch attacks ads Gothmog Sep 2015 #130

He has less to hide or defend, the thing they can't buy, The Truth, and the smoke & mirrors of MSM orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #140

You do know that there is polling out on the terms "socialism" and "socialist" Gothmog Sep 2015 #141

Who doesn't know about the Koch brothers and Citizens United by now ? I think you underestimate the orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #145

Sanders voters are a very very narrow segment of the party Gothmog Sep 2015 #180

And polls aren't issues or dots that connect the misery, As I said you underestimate people . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #184

I live in the real world and do not believe in magic Gothmog Sep 2015 #185

I live in a fantasy world where Republicans won't come out in droves to vote against Hillary Clinton frylock Sep 2015 #188

They invented ' Citizens United ' mostly so they could shit on Her, I must be in the same dream. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #196

Republicans will come out in droves to vote against any Democrat Gothmog Sep 2015 #208

Conservatives have been waiting 25 years for the opportunity to vote against Hillary. frylock Sep 2015 #210

Really? Maybe you should get off our socialist Internet then... teach me everything Sep 2015 #173

So the truth hurts Gothmog Sep 2015 #181

That's where you're wrong. at the end... teach me everything Sep 2015 #193

Tell that to the pollsters Gothmog Sep 2015 #206

Here.. teach me everything Sep 2015 #209

Sanders is appealing to alienated voters not identifying with parties. eridani Sep 2015 #213

I guess the Ferraro incident HRC has not learned from Truprogressive85 Sep 2015 #139

If Bernie can't handle the heat, he needs to get out of the kitchen. leftofcool Sep 2015 #142

That's how he got to be Senior Senator, saying stuff like " Can't we just move on " Oh right that orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #154

They'll both be fine gwheezie Sep 2015 #155

No silenttigersong Sep 2015 #158

They'll start all the attacks jfern Sep 2015 #167

That's been going on. Claire, Carlos Danger, Castro and some other one. Autumn Sep 2015 #174

Yep. Why wait for the Republicans to lie about Bernie? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #179

A collective response -- Should Democrats be Republicans in behavior? If so we're no better Armstead Sep 2015 #175

Same tactics, different year. 99Forever Sep 2015 #191

Funny. Politico is routinely and regularly denounced by DU'ers as an DonViejo Sep 2015 #178

You posted a hit piece on Bernie from the Federalist and you're complaining about sources? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #192

You think that's a hit piece? I didn't and don't. I thought it was an indication DonViejo Sep 2015 #194

Iow you have no right to call out anyone else for their sources. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #195

Who established you as the Judge/Commandant who determines what rights I have or do not have? DonViejo Sep 2015 #198

"BTW, I don't where knickers." beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #199

Thank you for confirming you are the type of person I suspected you to be. DonViejo Sep 2015 #200

A knicker wearing pointer outer of hypocrisy? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #201

No, actually, I was thinking more along the lines of someone that laughs at and DonViejo Sep 2015 #203

You insulted me and I'm the bad guy? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #205

It's disappointing and rather telling... HerbChestnut Sep 2015 #197

The Bernie people think they know FloridaBlues Sep 2015 #204

Has Bernie said negative things about Hillary? Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #202

Other than comparing their stances on the issues... HerbChestnut Sep 2015 #211