2016 Postmortem

HooptieWagon

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27. Hogwash.

Sun Sep 6, 2015, 01:23 AM

Sep 2015

I've talked to the PDA people organizing Florida. The Sanders campaign has some very knowledgeable people running it. At this point, the campaign is operating on a tight budget...sanders doesn't have the backing of Wall St billionaires like Clinton does. So the campaign focus is on the early states. PDA is laying the groundwork in the other states, getting volunteers signed up and scheduling rallies. When the campaign moves into those states, the groundwork the PDA has laid is going to be turned over to the campaign to manage. It's a well organized grass roots effort that is gaining momentum and has a good chance of succeeding. It's thousands of volunteers being ACTIVE, not a bunch of hired PR people, pollsters, focus groups, and consultants. Democracy in action, baby.

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Listen up, Sanders folk [View all] Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 OP

I should hope Sanders has some experience with caucuses jfern Sep 2015 #1

Note Jesse Jackson was a loser too... Historic NY Sep 2015 #4

He won 100% of the states where Sanders was helping him jfern Sep 2015 #6

whereas most of the candidates the Clintons stumped for in 2012 lost AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #8

What does that have to do with 1988 ?? Historic NY Sep 2015 #11

track record in getting Democrats elected AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #15

How many Democrats from red and purples states did Sanders stump for who won? wyldwolf Sep 2015 #46

How many candidates did Sanders stump for in 2012? MADem Sep 2015 #77

As was Dukakis. The machine's pick. n/t Smarmie Doofus Sep 2015 #45

here is a 31 second clip that might help you remember Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #49

Seriously do not think that was due to how he ran his jwirr Sep 2015 #75

The Obama campaign was waaay better organized in Iowa than was Clinton's. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #96

My post is about Jesse Jackson in 1988. Obama did jwirr Sep 2015 #99

D-oh! Now I'm embarrassed. Blame it on a brain fart. eom SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #102

No need to be embarrassed - I very seldom get upset. jwirr Sep 2015 #105

Yeah, but I quite often embarrass myself. n/t SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #106

We all do. jwirr Sep 2015 #107

Aarrrggghhhhh!!!! Major Hogwash Sep 2015 #111

Sanders has probably met or at least spoken to most of his constituents personally or in small group MADem Sep 2015 #76

No debates, media blackout or disdain, fake Bernie has trouble with Blacks and Hispanics memes Skwmom Sep 2015 #2

Wait don't try to tell them anything they all seem to know better..... Historic NY Sep 2015 #3

Well, we're not counting on the Zell Miller wing of the party. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #10

Zell Miller Wing..... LovingA2andMI Sep 2015 #20

Good one! SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #108

"I wish we still lived in the age of dueling!" Major Hogwash Sep 2015 #110

Damn. Agschmid Sep 2015 #5

I'm in the belly of the beast in the democratic club establishment in my county. Cleita Sep 2015 #7

So the thinking is a coup d'etat.... Historic NY Sep 2015 #12

No, Bernie doesn't want the money of those big funders. Cleita Sep 2015 #13

Okay then...... Historic NY Sep 2015 #14

Obama had to because he had to defeat Hillary. Cleita Sep 2015 #17

She can't duck and dodge issues for the next five months and win AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #35

^^^this!^^^ peacebird Sep 2015 #39

You hit that one squarely on the head hifiguy Sep 2015 #83

Don't forget: What's His Name doesn't like Immigrants (Gutierrez), reach out to Hispanics (Castro) appalachiablue Sep 2015 #87

Talk about digging holes! HappyPlace Sep 2015 #70

The White House is not up for sale. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #112

I am not sure what you are talking about - is this jwirr Sep 2015 #78

My take away on the Iowa game:Weak Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #88

Ok I lived in NW IA and there it has always been run jwirr Sep 2015 #95

That is great, but what's going on in Council Bluffs needs to be fine tuned Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #100

So you want us to follow the bought politicians jwirr Sep 2015 #79

No, no, no, no, no...all they have to do is post YouTube videos and everything will fall into place brooklynite Sep 2015 #9

Do not look at Happy Fun Ball shenmue Sep 2015 #19

That Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #24

That too. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #26

Maybe if her supporters throw more stink bombs at his rallies AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #36

Two questions... Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #63

Any one who thinks that Bernie Sanders supporters won't show up for the wilsonbooks Sep 2015 #16

You are telling this to people that think... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #18

Even in non-caucus states, Bernie supporters need to join their local Democratic clubs because if JDPriestly Sep 2015 #21

We defeated h once already with the caucuses artislife Sep 2015 #22

Good luck.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #28

Some of Obamas team is working for Bernie. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #29

Some? Who.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #30

These Obama campaign digital staffers are now working for Bernie Sanders FlatBaroque Sep 2015 #68

They don't understand artislife Sep 2015 #64

We have the right ideas on our side, she's got the money. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #69

I think nobody can shine poop enough to sell it. n/t Chan790 Sep 2015 #47

Uh huh.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #23

And, how effectively you run your campaign . . . MrModerate Sep 2015 #25

Hogwash. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #27

^^^This!^^^ SoapBox Sep 2015 #31

You seem to think she is running her campaign all alone..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #32

Perhaps the Bernie campaign theme song will be" let me take you on a magic carpet ride" FloridaBlues Sep 2015 #56

Good luck with that.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #59

Not nearly enough, I'm telling you Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #89

I think the OP is underestimating how many of us "party hacks" have signed on with Bernie dflprincess Sep 2015 #101

Thank you for this! Z_California Sep 2015 #33

Thinking ahead...could be on hellva convention, eh? Purveyor Sep 2015 #34

Well if Sanders loses it really won't matter any more it will be Game, Set and Match for the 1% YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #37

Yes, but... Chan790 Sep 2015 #48

Omg omg omg VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #60

^^^^THIS^^^^ jwirr Sep 2015 #84

We're already doing these things. As grassroots supporters. What are you doing? peacebird Sep 2015 #38

I would not have posted if I saw those "things" happening Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #114

Yeah, well, Capn Sunshine, Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #40

"Hack male"? "Fuck the Democratic Party"? Please, take your meds. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #41

It's called a strong opinion. Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #42

Don't mind RB... Chan790 Sep 2015 #50

I'm familiar with the poster. Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #54

always a pleasure , Taz Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #90

Here you go jberryhill Sep 2015 #74

He's right. Skidmore Sep 2015 #43

shhhhh, Capn' wyldwolf Sep 2015 #44

Hey, thanks for only posting this once! djean111 Sep 2015 #51

If you read most postings BS supporters couldn't care less about the dem party let alone join up FloridaBlues Sep 2015 #52

Oh, I have been a Democrat all of my life. I consider Bernie ten times the Democrat that Hillary djean111 Sep 2015 #53

Absolutely. An FDR Democrat. jwirr Sep 2015 #85

What bullshit, I'm a Democrat from a Democratic family on both sides. I support Bernie Sanders and Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #61

Good advise, I keep hoping being spot on views and not gauging every response to issues will woo orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #55

You are soooooooo right! 99Forever Sep 2015 #57

You cite a man who worked for McGovern and Dean on how to win an election? Got any other experts Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #58

I think the point of that was we learned from our mistakes. Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #91

Listen to Capn Sunshine, boys and girls. He knows whereof he speaks. hedda_foil Sep 2015 #62

So what is he saying that we are not doing? jwirr Sep 2015 #86

Oh, where to start. Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #98

I would guess that will come closer to the actual jwirr Sep 2015 #104

Hi Hedda Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #94

Hi, Sunshine! hedda_foil Sep 2015 #103

It's so cute when Clinton supporters assume everyone else is a fucking moron. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #65

No, it's cute when Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #67

"I think you are wrong" is not the same as "I think you're a fucking moron". jeff47 Sep 2015 #72

No, again Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #73

It's funner that way, dontcha' know. Major Hogwash Sep 2015 #93

Did I say I was a Clinton Supporter? Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #92

I can already hear the chortling of the party bureaucrats anticipating Bernie's loss. aikoaiko Sep 2015 #66

I'm a hired gun. Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #97

"no one in the Sanders Campaign knows jack about on ground organizing." Yeah, neophytes all. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #71

Thanks for posting, it's a positive message. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #80

very informational video questionseverything Sep 2015 #81

Harder to cheat but easier to steamroll. hedda_foil Sep 2015 #109

Capn_Sunshine. Thanks for the reminder. I'm going to DEM county HQ tomorrow. /nt NCjack Sep 2015 #82

K&R Jamaal510 Sep 2015 #113