2016 Postmortem

Chan790

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8. I don't think Webb would.

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:27 PM

Sep 2015

His candidacy was never going to resonate with the public or the base...it's an even more conservative platform trying to appeal to a base with Third-Way fatigue. Webb was never going to be "in it"...he wouldn't even be the choice of the party insiders if it was just him and Sanders.

I think if Clinton had never gotten in that O'Malley would be the front-runner now...it's good thing that Clinton and O'Malley are both in though. It pulled him left from where he ran and governed in Maryland in order to stake out his own candidate niche and the resonance of his moving leftward and Sanders having always been well to the left has forced and will force Clinton to run to the left of where she wanted to...but I don't know how much it'll affect how she governs if elected.

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Had Clinton not run, who would have been on the DNC bench? [View all] TSIAS Sep 2015 OP

Sanders doesn't run if Warren does jfern Sep 2015 #1

Nope. hifiguy Sep 2015 #16

Exactly, Bernie isn't running for himself. He is running for us! Live and Learn Sep 2015 #22

Maybe the point is that Sanders will open up the process and youth will enter. salib Sep 2015 #2

Agreed, hypothetical. I think the assumption of Clinton running has delayed some overdue party-wide Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #3

Soul searching? Search this: ONLY 46% of Democratic MEN want a woman president--in their lifetime. Hortensis Sep 2015 #15

That's not really relevant, at all, to what I posted. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #20

Please read again. The overriding relevance of an unexamined factor was the whole point. Hortensis Sep 2015 #21

The central point of my post was that we need to expand our bench beyond E. Coast baby boomers Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #27

Agree, we'd do far better if we could accept that we never were and will never be in control. Hortensis Sep 2015 #30

At least you had your moments. My people have spent our lives sandwiched between Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #31

Yes. I just wish we hadn't trashed the bus. I've often wondered if we aren't going to be known Hortensis Sep 2015 #32

I wouldn't be so hard on yourselves. A tremendous amount of positive change can be attributed to the Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #33

AS an aside: what is the date on that graph? (source?) Raine1967 Sep 2015 #36

good question, I was looking at it and wondering the same thing myself. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #37

LOL! yup, sounds about right! Raine1967 Sep 2015 #38

I think you are extrapolating the percentage that don't want a woman President. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #23

I thought Cory Booker might have run. Vinca Sep 2015 #4

Meh. Isn't he another Third Wayer? kath Sep 2015 #34

I didn't say I was a fan of his . . . I just thought he would run. Vinca Sep 2015 #41

If Clinton had not run O'Malley and Webb would be getting SheilaT Sep 2015 #5

I don't think Webb would. Chan790 Sep 2015 #8

My including Webb is predicated on the idea that SheilaT Sep 2015 #9

I think Biden would have run. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #13

I think Biden would have been their pick too but I don't think he would be winning. nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #24

That would depend on who else was running. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #40

O'Malley certainly would be. hifiguy Sep 2015 #18

Bernie is attracting the youth vote. n/t Skwmom Sep 2015 #6

Who would have run: askew Sep 2015 #7

You nailed it. SheilaT Sep 2015 #10

Hmmm. Chan790 Sep 2015 #11

you ignore that people GAIN name recognition as they run and especially as they win karynnj Sep 2015 #14

I don't think Klobuchar would do well on the national stage Mnpaul Sep 2015 #35

Vermin Supreme? L0oniX Sep 2015 #12

Alas, the first victim of the Clinton Juggernaut. Buns_of_Fire Sep 2015 #43

here's the current age of everyone we're talking about MisterP Sep 2015 #17

O'Malley is just 52 hifiguy Sep 2015 #19

The problem is Obama fadedrose Sep 2015 #25

Who can match him? Michelle is in many ways a better natural talent than Barack. leveymg Sep 2015 #26

Guess who has Michelle Obama's publicist? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #29

why? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #28

I was just curious TSIAS Sep 2015 #44

what? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #45

So far no one has mentioned Biden? Chances are 100% Biden runs if there was no Hillary running. stevenleser Sep 2015 #39

I mentioned him. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #42