2016 Postmortem

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

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180. Actually the evidence does. The article isn't the only evidence.

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:02 AM

Sep 2015

Take a look at Google maps sometime. It has this neat little feature where you can actually look at places.

Leary field is huge, Portsmouth Middle School is far smaller, maybe I dunno, 1/5th as big at best, with maybe 1/20th avaiable to stuff a crowd on. And only a couple of blocks apart, so if you look up one, then the other, they both stay onscreen for you to compare the two.

So choose Google earth, and be sure to use the zoom to street view on the Middle school to see where she set up. It's small enough to make a crowd of 1000 look HUGE.

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Only 1,000 attend Clinton event [View all] left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 OP

Wow, what a great article--really good read! MADem Sep 2015 #1

You do think it was nice of left-of-center2012 to post it though. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #4

Most certainly--though that wasn't the poster's intent, it matters not. MADem Sep 2015 #12

In this instance I will just judge the results and not the poster's intent. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #14

Her "own" campaign? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #128

Just cut the nonsense. MADem Sep 2015 #129

Oh, stop whining. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #131

. Dragonfli Sep 2015 #133

! Fawke Em Sep 2015 #134

Keep kicking the thread with petulant commentaries! MADem Sep 2015 #137

That.Is.Perfection! peacebird Sep 2015 #203

You might take your own advice...you smelt it because you dealt it. MADem Sep 2015 #135

So only certain people are allowed to get into Clinton's events? Really? Who is excluded? sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #199

Why don't you read the whole thread--you'll figure it out, eventually. nt MADem Sep 2015 #200

Except that they're not... brooklynite Sep 2015 #201

No. I'm a Clinton supporter. MADem Sep 2015 #202

She's building a ground organization...If these are events that Gloria Sep 2015 #64

Motivated, and with a record of past interest/performance. MADem Sep 2015 #65

Massive crowd! 5 deep and maybe 20 across? Where's the pics of the whole crowd? Divernan Sep 2015 #73

Clinton downsizes venue day before appearance. Divernan Sep 2015 #75

Aw, you don't understand, do you? MADem Sep 2015 #76

If it was by invitation, why did they downsize venue the day before? Divernan Sep 2015 #83

The "Atheist Reporter" got three RSVPs? OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #91

My point, exactly! - event was NOT by invite to HRC supporters only! Divernan Sep 2015 #104

You're asking me to take the "atheist voter" as dispositive? nt MADem Sep 2015 #107

Proof it was not by invitation only to previously committed HRC followers. Divernan Sep 2015 #116

That's not really proof. It's an invited person providing a link. nt MADem Sep 2015 #117

It's not about crowd size - when it's a small crowd nichomachus Sep 2015 #93

Gee, you'd think you'd be pleased, instead of trying to goad and bait, then! MADem Sep 2015 #108

If after all your work to gin up support up front, you have to downsize the event delrem Sep 2015 #98

What work? MADem Sep 2015 #138

I didn't downsize HRC's big event. So it isn't "all on me", as you claim. delrem Sep 2015 #141

Cut - n- run, eh? MADem Sep 2015 #145

I'm not the one whining, MADem. Your wails are frightening the neighborhood dogs! delrem Sep 2015 #146

I'm the one who was HAPPY to see this article posted. Pull the string, there, sport! nt MADem Sep 2015 #147

KICK! delrem Sep 2015 #148

Yep!! MADem Sep 2015 #151

Love your enthusiasm, MADem. But it doesn't make up for abysmal turnout delrem Sep 2015 #152

Abysmal? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #155

Keep laughing. Then ask yourself "How many people in New Hampshire saw these links MADem Sep 2015 #156

"no need to snipe" SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #167

"Worst of all, we're starting to sound like Congress." Thread win!!! nt MADem Sep 2015 #168

I'm waiting for someone to say, "Go fuck yourself." SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #169

That may have already happened a time or two.... MADem Sep 2015 #170

Do you mean on the floor of the Senate? eom SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #174

Looks like an excellent event! mcar Sep 2015 #77

Which is exactly the point....they SO fear her....that instead of paying attention to the FEMINIST VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #157

"I firmly believe what�s good for women is good for America,� Clinton said. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #158

Great article. A friend of mine attended and said it was awesome! leftofcool Sep 2015 #2

I am glad your friend enjoyed the experience. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #5

This really can't always be about rally turnout, you know? HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #3

The article didn't focus on any comparison of turnout at all. MADem Sep 2015 #13

Oh, isn't that wonderful. Who needs a free press anyhow? jwirr Sep 2015 #32

She should try waving her arms around more Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #6

Good one! MissDeeds Sep 2015 #17

I don't think emulating Trump is the best idea. zappaman Sep 2015 #122

How many attendees must she get to satisfy you? oasis Sep 2015 #7

1,0001? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #8

Someone tell the OP to stand by with his clicker. oasis Sep 2015 #10

Perhaps he can attend her next rally and bring his clicker DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #11

At least 1% less than a plurality demwing Sep 2015 #58

Huh? I wasn't aware there was voting going on at this event. oasis Sep 2015 #81

That's ok, I forgive you demwing Sep 2015 #94

"Extrapolating". I see, certainly a lot of that going on nowadays. oasis Sep 2015 #96

Is that bad? Hmm...if you don't like life's outputs demwing Sep 2015 #100

Excellent idea. <nt> oasis Sep 2015 #101

Thanks for the article.... BooScout Sep 2015 #9

Since the team wins or loses based on votes, CanadaexPat Sep 2015 #16

Since every vote is weighed the same no they don't. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #18

If the people who show up at your rally don't vote for you, no, they don't. nt MADem Sep 2015 #20

They're more likely to than the people who don't show up. CanadaexPat Sep 2015 #25

I suspect pretty much everyone who received an invite to the event in the MADem Sep 2015 #69

It was an open to the public, no admission fee rally. Divernan Sep 2015 #84

It was an RSVP event. MADem Sep 2015 #109

It was open invite, posted to public on campaign website, w/ NO RSVP requested! Divernan Sep 2015 #115

Jesus, can't you even take the time to read the link you so portentously gave me? MADem Sep 2015 #118

They provided all the information needed to show up;RSVP not marked required. Divernan Sep 2015 #123

Uh, look at YOUR link, with the RSVP in the red bar. Keep struggling if you'd like. MADem Sep 2015 #125

God... you are just choosing NOT to believe that this was an open event. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #130

I was responding to the poster's false assertion that the event was NOT RSVP. MADem Sep 2015 #136

It was not RSVP. I was there. bunnies Sep 2015 #181

It WAS RSVP. MADem Sep 2015 #182

I didnt take pictures. bunnies Sep 2015 #183

Really? You went and didn't take pics? Didn't stay for the speech on women? Just popped in and MADem Sep 2015 #184

Really. We're not Clinton supporters and we dont find her authentic. bunnies Sep 2015 #185

So why even go? Makes no sense. MADem Sep 2015 #186

You know what? bunnies Sep 2015 #188

I think it's strange that you didn't stay to listen to that speech. You didn't want to see your MADem Sep 2015 #189

An historical event? Are you joking? bunnies Sep 2015 #191

Presidential candidate makes speech on anniversary of THIS speech. MADem Sep 2015 #192

She gave a speech on the day she gave a speech before. bunnies Sep 2015 #193

Thanks so much for proving a point I was making in another thread....have a nice day. nt MADem Sep 2015 #194

You think everyone that goes to Bernie's rally's are going to necessarily vote for him? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #27

Do you think artislife Sep 2015 #87

As they were all invited guests.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #112

Everybody who could come was invited! Fawke Em Sep 2015 #132

did you miss the RSVP part? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #139

No. They wanted an RSVP for the head count. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #144

the town only has 21,000 people living there for goodness sake! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #142

I'll bet these media links reached most if not all NH voters--more than once, too. MADem Sep 2015 #153

I have friends who have gone to see him; they're not voting for him but it was a cheap night out. MADem Sep 2015 #110

Right.....they go for the spectacle! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #113

If Trump were speaking near me, I'd put on a hat and dark glasses and go, myself!!! MADem Sep 2015 #114

Yeah it would be a riot.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #143

I would take pictures and videos and ask the question "Why?" MADem Sep 2015 #149

Crazy right? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #154

Oh, MADem, I hope they're not laughing. He stopped being funny when he gave out Graham's phone #. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #159

Every time it seems like he's put his foot in it, he opens wider and grows another foot!!! nt MADem Sep 2015 #160

Kinda like slaying a hydra? n/t SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #164

Or eating an octopus! nt MADem Sep 2015 #166

And the free icecream and such. revmclaren Sep 2015 #161

sure if you consider being ethically challenged, quality. if you consider cali Sep 2015 #19

Awww...look at all that negativity! MADem Sep 2015 #21

I don't think he'd care one way or another. cali Sep 2015 #23

Well, you carry on with your winning ways, then! nt MADem Sep 2015 #67

Shhhhh... revmclaren Sep 2015 #163

Quality and Quantity are not opposites, there us no inverse relationship demwing Sep 2015 #61

I get the impression this thread hasn't turned out the way the seminal poster intended. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #15

sorry, this is ridiculous. 1,000 on a beautiful labor day weekend is a good crowd. cali Sep 2015 #22

I'm waiting to see photographic evidence of the crowd size. Divernan Sep 2015 #78

28000 on a summer Saturday artislife Sep 2015 #88

It looks nice to me. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #24

Yeah, I wish our primary was earlier. zappaman Sep 2015 #124

I was thinking, how fun it would be to have a candidate come through Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #127

"Only?" TheCowsCameHome Sep 2015 #26

My first thought as well. Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #97

that might be great for her, but lets compare Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #106

Only 1,000 attend Clinton event left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #28

Kicking this puerile thread by doubling-down? OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #30

That's how he rolls. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #35

There were more people who couldn't... 99Forever Sep 2015 #31

Welcome back,amigo./nt DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #34

Thanks. 99Forever Sep 2015 #36

I was counting the days until your return. The board wasn't the same without you. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #37

My opinions aren't controlled by a weathervane. 99Forever Sep 2015 #41

I am just happy you are back and have my fingers crossed you stay back. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #43

Thanks again. 99Forever Sep 2015 #45

You are welcome, sir DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #47

Where did you discover that song?? Blus4u Sep 2015 #71

Here DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #72

I love flowers. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #33

Or maybe we could talk about the content of the rally? Metric System Sep 2015 #74

That reached every NH voter via TV and newspaper coverage. And THEN some!!!!! MADem Sep 2015 #140

Numbers don't Lie orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #29

You got that right! Wonder what the circulation/Neilsen 'numbers' are for these links? MADem Sep 2015 #187

I diffuse MSM by asking people their personal experiences and the Vast difference between what MSM orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #196

Most people read the paper at breakfast, listen to the radio going to/from work, MADem Sep 2015 #197

No Doubt it's total infiltration of the senses, but in between all that is " The Real World " orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #198

yes but the 1000 were very special people olddots Sep 2015 #38

Were They All Super Delegates - That Would Explain Their Importance cantbeserious Sep 2015 #59

*Were Agschmid Sep 2015 #63

See, we told you she was popular! Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #39

She's The One DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #40

Never saw it, sorry. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #42

I didn't see it either but would have watched it for Frank Vincent alone DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #44

Ah, yes, the Shah of Iran. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #46

That and he had his head run over in front of his daughter and grandchildren DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #48

vaguely. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #51

The "Get your Shinebox" quote was from Goodfellas DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #52

Oh, right. Yeah, that's a great flick, too. Been years since I saw it. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #55

You also had DeNiro as the cuckolded husband. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #56

And James Woods is a right-wing shitheel who had his hand eaten by Deborah Harry's vaginal tv set Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #60

He is contemptible in real life as he is on screen. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #62

almost makes you sympathetic to DeNiro, doesn't it? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #66

DeNiro was the most sympathetic character in the movie. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #70

Sad whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #49

That is no way to describe the original poster. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #50

So, one of the countries most well known... SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #53

It seems you struck a nerve with a few people Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #54

i kind of doubt it questionseverything Sep 2015 #92

Y'all a 1000 peeps is a lot of peeps underthematrix Sep 2015 #57

I think the millions who saw the media coverage following the event were the actual target... MADem Sep 2015 #190

"Puppet Show and Spinal Tap" Bonobo Sep 2015 #68

Damn. Something isn't quite right. If she has 50% of Democrats, where are they? thereismore Sep 2015 #79

Because everyone who gets big crowds ends up getting large numbers of votes? brooklynite Sep 2015 #99

Non-sequitur. nt thereismore Sep 2015 #102

I remember him! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #176

It's this kind of thing that makes her unappealing: thereismore Sep 2015 #80

GMAB. They all talk like they assume they are the nominee. It's part of the game lunamagica Sep 2015 #162

If these 1000 are all experienced and sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #82

Good article, Hillary has advocated for women world wide. She is pushing for safety of Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #85

In all honesty, 1,000 probably isn't that bad in Portsmouth, New Hampshire Scootaloo Sep 2015 #86

New Hampshire. That's why it looked so Autumn Sep 2015 #89

1,000 probably isn't that bad in Portsmouth, New Hampshire left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #90

Where is a SINGLE photo/video to prove this claim of 1,000 in crowd? Divernan Sep 2015 #105

UNH in nearby Durham is in session. I bet a lot were from there and can't vote in NH. aikoaiko Sep 2015 #95

Hate to tell you this, but NH college students CAN vote--and DO vote--in New Hampshire. MADem Sep 2015 #119

I stand corrected. Some can and will vote. aikoaiko Sep 2015 #120

MANY can and do--this was a major issue several election cycles back. nt MADem Sep 2015 #126

I don't do rallies or events. Many people don't for different reasons, such as health, lunamagica Sep 2015 #103

+1,000! MADem Sep 2015 #111

You know there is more to a campaign than getting huge crowds... book_worm Sep 2015 #121

seems that sour grapes is the menu choice of the day, delrem Sep 2015 #150

No sour grapes here... revmclaren Sep 2015 #165

So you figure she's bottomed out, yet? delrem Sep 2015 #172

She really doesn't need big crowds at the moment. revmclaren Sep 2015 #175

Inflamatory thread title not supported by the article. Buzz cook Sep 2015 #171

I'm starting to see either FUD or some supporters are massaging numbers and facts about Sanders uponit7771 Sep 2015 #173

In another comment, someone noted an article that pointed out she had to switch venues. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #177

Not quite what the article says Buzz cook Sep 2015 #179

Actually the evidence does. The article isn't the only evidence. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #180

The article was the only evidence given Buzz cook Sep 2015 #204

1000 is a pretty good sized crowd for HRC. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #178

Looks like she got *25* people (including the children) at her Dubuque Labor Day event... Romulox Sep 2015 #195