2016 Postmortem

kenfrequed

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50. Actually,

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:27 AM

Sep 2015

It will probably end up being Hillary/____ vs Bush/Walker as Trump will hit his ceiling and the establishment Republicans will hand him his hat.

A Clinton vs Bush election will reduce turn out considerably which will actually increase the odds of a Republican victory. I figure I should point out that statistical fact since the OP seemed hellbent on his pragmatic facts. The Difference is that Bernie never has had to take SuperPac money and is campaigning against it so he can make that choice. The statistics of voting are a bit more difficult.

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You read it here first: Bernie will take PAC money [View all] Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 OP

Uh... SoapBox Sep 2015 #1

OK, so he doesn't. Then what? How does he take on the Republican money machine? How will he pay Metric System Sep 2015 #4

This is my point Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #7

Idealists.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #12

How did he beat Hillary without SuperPAC money? virtualobserver Sep 2015 #13

What he will do RobertEarl Sep 2015 #9

Sigh...some of you are hell-bent on handing the White House to the Republicans. Metric System Sep 2015 #14

You are wrong. RobertEarl Sep 2015 #17

In a post Citizens United political reality, you are essentially wanting Dems to show up to a gun Metric System Sep 2015 #19

Bernie has money RobertEarl Sep 2015 #20

I don't think that's realistic at all. Metric System Sep 2015 #21

I get that you don't RobertEarl Sep 2015 #22

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #60

Right on sir! Right on. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #24

Yup nt artislife Sep 2015 #36

Social media is basically free artislife Sep 2015 #34

You are asking us to go to the wrong table artislife Sep 2015 #38

He will get big money out of politics only if he wins Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #23

It is SO good to see you again! Rose Siding Sep 2015 #54

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #64

And some of you are willing so to say ANYTHING demwing Sep 2015 #56

People HATE the money machine. Use it against them. jwirr Sep 2015 #55

Right, sure..... daleanime Sep 2015 #2

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This message was self-deleted by its author Metric System Sep 2015 #5

Especially since I have never declared my support for Hillary Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #6

fine. I'll delete it. cali Sep 2015 #10

I guess we'll see ibegurpard Sep 2015 #8

I keep telling them that running on the Dem ticket.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #11

Glad to see that you're conceding the inevitability of Clinton. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #15

No he won't. They might start a PAC to turn off his supporters (because they don't want him Skwmom Sep 2015 #16

The 2016 election will be a test for America. We may actually fail it, Ron Green Sep 2015 #18

Who doesnt have the funds to compete VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #28

That's the test. If we still have to have it sold to us, we fail. Ron Green Sep 2015 #40

An experiment... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #41

That's quite a stretch, but I guess we'll have to disagree. Ron Green Sep 2015 #43

Not a stretch at all VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #44

SC Justices have to be confirmed. Skwmom Sep 2015 #48

I am not ready to give up SC nominees for your 'test" riversedge Sep 2015 #47

I hope he'll be the nominee so we'll find out. In Clinton's case we already know. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #25

And then loses his,ass in the general VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #30

Or, Hillary loses her ass in the general despite her corporate fortune. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #33

No she has the money to beat them VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #35

I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #39

He wont.. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #42

Actually, kenfrequed Sep 2015 #50

We can't afford to stay on this road of the unchange with H artislife Sep 2015 #32

Sneering intensifies! Scootaloo Sep 2015 #26

9/7/2015 .... Bernie Sanders says Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #27

Good luck with that plan VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #29

Conjecture and fake concern artislife Sep 2015 #31

Y3ah not having enough money to compete VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #37

The old 'He's just like our candidate! That's why you should just vote for our candidate instead!' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #51

Hi Cap'n! JNelson6563 Sep 2015 #45

HI Julie! Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #68

We read a lot of things on DU: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #46

If he wants to win this election, he most likely has to bigwillq Sep 2015 #49

Oh, I think he'll take PAC money, but not for those groups. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #52

what is the difference between cynical and skeptical ? olddots Sep 2015 #53

So Says the Banker demwing Sep 2015 #57

I'm not going to apologize for working in the financial community Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #59

Sunshine demwing Sep 2015 #61

That's a good point Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #69

As long as you aren't a Super PAC... demwing Sep 2015 #71

It will be moot. Bernie Sanders is not going to get MineralMan Sep 2015 #58

And that will be fine with you demwing Sep 2015 #62

If Bernie is the nominee, he will have MineralMan Sep 2015 #66

He has accepted PAC money in the past. Why wouldn't he do it now? Freddie Stubbs Sep 2015 #63

Always nice to hear from the... 99Forever Sep 2015 #65

He has accepted PAC money for years postatomic Sep 2015 #67

Bernie Sanders has said that he won't have a Super PAC. Eric J in MN Sep 2015 #70

Like I said; Bernie doesn't really have a say in this matter postatomic Sep 2015 #72