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8. Well certainly her policies are beyond reproach in the sense that criticizing her policies

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will be characterized as blind and irrational hatred.

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Hillary-hate from the far left seems more intense than Obama-hate. Why is that? [View all] DanTex Sep 2015 OP

They hated her when she was first lady. TexasProgresive Sep 2015 #1

Too young to remember. Did the far left hate Hillary specifically, or the whole administration? DanTex Sep 2015 #4

Not really sure TexasProgresive Sep 2015 #11

You made a declarative statement re the left hating Hillary in the 90's. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #45

Those who don't understand history -- have no business discussing it Armstead Sep 2015 #64

yes the far-left did, hence the showings of ericson00 Sep 2015 #223

Very telling. LeftOfWest Sep 2015 #286

"Too young to remember." LeftOfWest Sep 2015 #287

The 'far left' hated her in the 90s? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #96

I think the new definition of far left is any dem that says they won't vote for her roguevalley Sep 2015 #137

No. Far Left: Those who are hard to distinguish from the Far Right. Hortensis Sep 2015 #152

Oh, good Christ! TransitJohn Sep 2015 #204

TransitJohn, "FDR Democrats" aren't far/radical left. FDR Democrats were/are Hortensis Sep 2015 #278

Well that made sense AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #271

A Dem that won't vote for a Dem is not a Dem! Tommy2Tone Sep 2015 #159

A dem that choses to spend their vote on a different dem candidate is a dem. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #180

no. george wallace was a dem. think about that remark. roguevalley Sep 2015 #188

Again and again I get more proof Tommy2Tone Sep 2015 #194

Wait, you made a general claim: a dem who don't vote for a dem is not a dem. Vattel Sep 2015 #199

When George Wallace ran for President in 1968, it was not as a Democrat � BlueStateLib Sep 2015 #258

irrelevant to my point Vattel Sep 2015 #260

I was going to make that point but thanks for making it for me Tommy2Tone Sep 2015 #265

Tommy, parties are political organizations different people may support for Hortensis Sep 2015 #279

Wallace ran as a Democrat in both the '64 and '72 primaries Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #267

Why don't I give you my password and you post for me Tommy2Tone Sep 2015 #264

again and again, you show yourself to be a sad boy. I didn't compare your queen to wallace. roguevalley Sep 2015 #217

Well, I'll probably vote for her if she's the nominee but I'm working really hard to help PatrickforO Sep 2015 #238

Hating the person most likely to prevent Republicans fom VanillaRhapsody Sep 2015 #202

My fear is that she will hand them exactly what they want. artislife Sep 2015 #257

That is what Obama did AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #274

The fear card AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #273

Fairly clear that anyone right of Karl Marx is in for a bashing in some small circles. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #2

VERY SMALL CIRCLES, goddamn it Armstead Sep 2015 #65

Small, but loud circles. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #241

Soo... kenfrequed Sep 2015 #272

Have you stopped beating your wife? Why is that? LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #3

I'm single. So what do you think of Hillary-hate versus Obama-hate? DanTex Sep 2015 #5

I'm not surprised. What do you think of dishonest framing? LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #9

Not surprised, huh. Is that a personal attack? DanTex Sep 2015 #17

Of course it's a personal attack. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #18

I have never forgiven Hillary for using Reverend Wright against Obama.... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #24

If Obama can and you can't.... SonderWoman Sep 2015 #28

I don't forgive politicians who stoop that low..... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #30

Yeah okay. How about Obama's anti-Hillary ads? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #36

Nice try, but Obama didn't create the ad..... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #46

Oh no! You mean it was his surrogates??? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #51

it was the Apple ad that ran during the Super Bowl back in 1984, Hillary 1984 ad was on youtube virtualobserver Sep 2015 #59

Fail. Phlem Sep 2015 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2015 #89

And it's not "Third Way" to affect dissatisfaction with militarism while hopping into bed with the MADem Sep 2015 #144

It's not so much about triangulation but Phlem Sep 2015 #158

Well, this election cycle it's the "economic" argument, but previous to this it was MADem Sep 2015 #170

Maybe he's triangulating on the F-35's Phlem Sep 2015 #176

You shouldn't be ignoring your race card, then. Instead of yelling at ME about it, MADem Sep 2015 #184

"You shouldn't be ignoring your race card, then." Phlem Sep 2015 #190

Really? You don't say!! No racism in tech? None? My, we need to ALERT THE MEDIA!!!!! MADem Sep 2015 #191

Really? Phlem Sep 2015 #192

Come on--the conversation I was having wasn't about your office. MADem Sep 2015 #203

OMFG. Phlem Sep 2015 #210

Yes, it DOES matter--just because no one is telling you doesn't mean it's not happening. MADem Sep 2015 #221

You just make shit up don't ya. Phlem Sep 2015 #227

Well done. You went longer than I could. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #230

Thank You. Phlem Sep 2015 #231

Well Phlem, I guess you are perpetually screwed then. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #244

You missed the point. Heckuvajob. nt MADem Sep 2015 #237

If the point was to ignore and then deride then kudos to you. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #239

I listened. I heard what he was saying, and I provided him with some links about MADem Sep 2015 #240

I agree with much you say. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #242

Economic justice alone doesn't help the people who are outside the bubble, though. MADem Sep 2015 #245

Thank you for taking the time to reply in such a manner. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #248

Unions are in a good position to sponsor minority entry into underrepresented fields. MADem Sep 2015 #249

Well said and true. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #252

I've always looked for the union label.... MADem Sep 2015 #255

How about something from this lovely union store? Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #256

Hee hee--I'm shopping at this union-made store!! MADem Sep 2015 #268

No--I am just listening to what you are telling me. MADem Sep 2015 #235

Reminds me of how can Bernie manage to barely criticize Hillary yet many, not all, of his randys1 Sep 2015 #102

would you cut the same slack in terms of being unwilling to trust dsc Sep 2015 #53

I'm not familiar with that event.......but let me get this straight virtualobserver Sep 2015 #71

No but many many gay members of this board were literally dsc Sep 2015 #259

You have the right to speak the truth....and so do I virtualobserver Sep 2015 #263

Do you HATE Sanders? Armstead Sep 2015 #70

Do you think dishonest framing is a shitty technique? LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #23

Looks like you're only in this for the personal attacks and dodges. DanTex Sep 2015 #25

Looks like you are only in this to frame issues dishonestly LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #27

Both Hillary and Obama hate from the far left are very real. The question is, why DanTex Sep 2015 #31

I will construct a strawman, than fill it with lies. Then I will ask how much you agree with it, LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #33

Well, if you don't think Hillary hate exists, you can just say so. DanTex Sep 2015 #34

Keep practicing. You'll get the hang of this yet. LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #35

You're in deep denial: SonderWoman Sep 2015 #37

Yup 115 recs for pure Hillary bashing. DanTex Sep 2015 #40

And not just bashing, but advocating sitting out of election. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #42

It's awful when people advocate sitting out elections, isn't it? LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #88

LOL. Of all the people complaining... LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #44

Who called Bernie a pedophile? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #48

Either you have been struck on the head and lost your memory from two weeks ago LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #52

I think you may have been "struck on the head". SonderWoman Sep 2015 #57

Of course you don't. Which of course explains why is was hidden LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #66

Still got nothing, huh? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #69

I've got nothing...except your post trying to make Bernie out as pedophile and getting the hide it LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #74

Which you produced no evidence of. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #79

And here is another, which also got a hide LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #81

Yup, still nothing about me calling him a pedophile. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #85

It is awful how one can be "smeared" simply by pointing to his or her posts, isn't it? LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #86

Still can't find that post you claim, huh? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #91

I don't know that I've ever seen anyone, when presented with their own posts, continue to insist LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #95

Integrity and Hillary support AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #103

You are correct. You didn't call him a pedophile Armstead Sep 2015 #111

He produced it AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #101

It was hidden because it got a "good" (cough) jury. The question is still out there for the GOP to MADem Sep 2015 #187

Where does that post (bad hide, IMO) say what you said she is saying? MADem Sep 2015 #174

June 2014? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #98

I'm Feeling More DanTex Hate in this Thread than Hillary Hate Stallion Sep 2015 #115

Look who's talking--this entire subthread is based on a false assertion you made! nt MADem Sep 2015 #175

How about you stop using the word "hate" Armstead Sep 2015 #68

The word "hate" is the correct one to describe the phenomenon here. DanTex Sep 2015 #73

Why are so many people so critical of Obama and Clinton? Armstead Sep 2015 #83

That would be the correct way of phrasing it if there weren't hatred going around. DanTex Sep 2015 #87

There's "bashing" of candidates on all sides. Armstead Sep 2015 #97

I disagree with the "both sides" thing. DanTex Sep 2015 #109

You're biased in your asessment Armstead Sep 2015 #113

Well, to me it seems that you are biased in your assessment. DanTex Sep 2015 #116

No, a moronic hyped up insult is using the word "haters and other facile insulting characterizations Armstead Sep 2015 #132

Well, again, I disagree. I use the word "hate" when I think it's appropriate. DanTex Sep 2015 #139

I agree, I see the same thing on rightwing boards that I Often see here, as a Bernie supporter randys1 Sep 2015 #105

+1 arcane1 Sep 2015 #90

And you won the jury on an alert! Divernan Sep 2015 #211

The right has fomented the hate for decades and tailored it to low info voters. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #6

I think at Obama-hate's height, it was about equal. It's faded because Obama is nearly gone now... stevenleser Sep 2015 #7

Just like those who "HATE" the left Armstead Sep 2015 #80

What are the silly reasons? Mnpaul Sep 2015 #206

Nope, doesn't fit me rufus dog Sep 2015 #236

Well certainly her policies are beyond reproach in the sense that criticizing her policies el_bryanto Sep 2015 #8

Indeed LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #12

Her policies aren't much different from Obama's. If anything, they are further left. DanTex Sep 2015 #14

I know which ones I oppose, which policies of hers do you oppose? Please explain in detail randys1 Sep 2015 #106

I havent seen a response to my question. Which policies, exactly, do you oppose? randys1 Sep 2015 #150

I'm sorry not to respond as quickly as you would like el_bryanto Sep 2015 #160

I kind thought this would be your response. In typing this, can you concede that randys1 Sep 2015 #166

Because both Hillary and Obama are moderate conservatives? nt el_bryanto Sep 2015 #183

It seems to me that, for your purposes, not supporting Hillary - Hillary-hate. djean111 Sep 2015 #10

It is personal HassleCat Sep 2015 #13

I agree. nt jonno99 Sep 2015 #41

So we're back to which candidate you sunnystarr Sep 2015 #100

Nailed it! liberal N proud Sep 2015 #133

"Hillary hate" is like "the liberal media", "the gay agenda," and even "voter fraud" RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #15

+1 Rufus! hifiguy Sep 2015 #154

Absolutely correct hueymahl Sep 2015 #156

more than one Hillary supporter has posted attacks on bernie using those "far left " sources virtualobserver Sep 2015 #161

Socialists are impossible to please. They should be thrilled to have their man in the White House. RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #163

If anything, Hillary is further left. DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #16

Look at what she's running on. Even in 2008, she was slightly to Obama's left. DanTex Sep 2015 #21

You DO know that the Mandate to BUY Health Insurance... bvar22 Sep 2015 #269

Hillary whining from the left seems more intense now also. Nt Logical Sep 2015 #19

Ooooo...straw man! HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #20

Hillary hate from the "far left"? tech3149 Sep 2015 #22

Surprised you haven't seen it. DanTex Sep 2015 #29

You've got to better than that to sell me that story tech3149 Sep 2015 #58

No shit. "Hey, let's see how many lies we can pump into one thread. Won't that be fun!?!?!!" LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #32

Many Democrats are tired of the blowback from the Clintons' lack of ethical standards. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #26

Exactly. Though it's the Clintons' lack of ethical standards plus their corporate policies. Skwmom Sep 2015 #60

Bill Clinton signed/supported the most egregious GOP-inspired bills and policy. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #108

The 1950s called, The HUAC would like their talking points back nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #38

Really. It's a pity Joseph Welch isn't alive and posting to DU. n/t RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #39

Of course, because nobody actually hates Hillary. No way! DanTex Sep 2015 #43

Once again, the 1950s called for that red baiting of yours nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #47

Umm, I didn't say anything remotely red-baiting. Notice the lack of the word "communist". DanTex Sep 2015 #49

You did nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #55

Oh, I see. Yeah, the "far left" is people who are "far" to the "left". DanTex Sep 2015 #62

For reference purposes, can you please name someone who is "far left"? RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #75

Ralph Nader. DanTex Sep 2015 #76

Lmao!!!!!! nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #84

LMAO indeed. Ralph Nader is "center left". I guess it depends what planet you're on. DanTex Sep 2015 #110

I call mine reality nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #114

Is he a Democrat? Does he post here? Seriously? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #123

Well, alrighty then. Thanks for sharing. It says a great deal about you. RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #92

LOL. Based on some internet chart. Good times. DanTex Sep 2015 #112

Based on actual positions Mnpaul Sep 2015 #200

When you are Third Way, i.e., 1980s Republicans now claiming to be Democrats LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #220

Agreed Mnpaul Sep 2015 #225

Funny the meme used to be that nader was "far right" Armstead Sep 2015 #93

You have to go that far outside the party? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #122

I was asked to name one person who is "far left" and I answered. DanTex Sep 2015 #125

And you couldn't name a single Democrat AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #126

I wasn't asked to name a Democrat. DanTex Sep 2015 #129

You are projecting AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #130

Nader? Name some "far left" positions he's taken. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #250

Which of Nader's positions do you consider far left? Mnpaul Sep 2015 #212

Bernie Sanders sunnystarr Sep 2015 #162

Glad you love Bernie. But he isn't far left. RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #165

In the US in 2015 he's far left sunnystarr Sep 2015 #167

Mebbe so, but it gives us a pretty skewed sense of what "far left" actually entails RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #171

democratic socialist sunnystarr Sep 2015 #193

I agree PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #195

I have here in my hand the names of 115 Hillary Haters! RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #56

Thread winner! HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #63

OK. Who squealed? Wilms Sep 2015 #135

Seems we got a stool pigeon problem. nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #141

He's makin' a list... checkin' it twice... gonna find out who's (you know the rest) cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #208

I won't vote for her but don't hate her. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #251

Yeah like he fought with them on TPP ibegurpard Sep 2015 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2015 #54

We don't want to be triangulated again. immoderate Sep 2015 #61

A significant portion is coming from Crossroads America Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #67

There is no need for misleading, her record is clear LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #148

Funny, you're proving my point Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #169

It is a list of what she has done and what her policies are LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #196

No it's a list of interpretations of things you have heard Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #198

So you don't have any idea about what a standard of proof is? DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #243

More Hillary-hysteria when faced with criticism Boomer Sep 2015 #72

I'm a "leftist" and I don't "hate" Hillary. I just don't want her as president. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #77

You have to understand nichomachus Sep 2015 #99

Yep. Similar to the way that a parent reacts when you don't agree that their baby is cute or smart. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #104

Admit it, nicho! Karl Rove paid you to post that. RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #155

Sounds conservative to me Mnpaul Sep 2015 #215

GOP trolls ginning up hatred and anti hillary talking points. applegrove Sep 2015 #78

ANYTHING AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #94

Interestingly, one of the OPs that brought this to mind was about Hillary's proposals for DanTex Sep 2015 #107

Oh, they say they care "about the issues" but it's been clear for some time that the ONLY BlueCaliDem Sep 2015 #117

How many issues based OPs have you posted lately? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #118

You have selective memory. My last OP in this forum: DanTex Sep 2015 #120

80% of the OPs I have seen you post AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #146

Because people don't believe her ibegurpard Sep 2015 #186

Of course Hillary haters don't believe her. That's my point. DanTex Sep 2015 #197

I don't know anybody who hates her. mahina Sep 2015 #119

DU rec...nt SidDithers Sep 2015 #121

"seems', "I think" and the basic tenor of the post makes it clear that your opinion, guillaumeb Sep 2015 #124

Far left? THE FAR LEFT? Ron Green Sep 2015 #127

I'm posting on DU about the far left because the far left has contempt for most Democrats, DanTex Sep 2015 #134

I supported Obama. I campaigned for him. I WAS ON THE BALLOT with Barack Obama Ron Green Sep 2015 #147

"it's not about left and right. That's the language of fools. It's about vital political engagement. RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #172

Don't forget Arkansas ibegurpard Sep 2015 #181

After being wrong about Obama for 6+ years ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #128

"They were wrong, and they are angry" -- yes, this. betsuni Sep 2015 #216

My take is fairly simple. hifiguy Sep 2015 #131

Yep. Firthermore I don't 840high Sep 2015 #138

Not sure how you can argue that nothing has changed... DanTex Sep 2015 #143

I haven't taken the government-issued unemployment figures hifiguy Sep 2015 #151

Unemployment numbers PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #177

I think some (not ALL, mind you--SOME) of the "far lefties" are not "far lefties" at all. MADem Sep 2015 #136

Da ding ding ding Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #214

And their snark isn't funny because it isn't based on anything true. betsuni Sep 2015 #219

Really. The same old insults in the same old way.... nt MADem Sep 2015 #222

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Sep 2015 #140

LOL. Thanks for making my point. DanTex Sep 2015 #142

Seriously. That person couldn't have made your point for you any better if they tried. nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #145

Your utter inability to refute the post didn't slip past anyone's attention. nt Romulox Sep 2015 #153

No surprise there! That thread is like Kryptonite to Clinton supporters. arcane1 Sep 2015 #182

The warmongering? C Street? KamaAina Sep 2015 #149

Most of the hate is coming from non Democrats Tommy2Tone Sep 2015 #157

Who are these "Far Lefties" of which you speak? bvar22 Sep 2015 #164

You know, Phlem Sep 2015 #168

Hillary is terrible on the issues like her husband jfern Sep 2015 #173

If she's terrible on the issues, why was Clinton so popular as president? NYCButterfinger Sep 2015 #232

He had charisma, Hillary doesn't jfern Sep 2015 #233

Patriot act, AUMF, TPP. PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #178

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #179

You might say the same thing about Bernie-hate. Vinca Sep 2015 #185

He is way more likable. artislife Sep 2015 #189

"Hate"? "Far left"? TransitJohn Sep 2015 #201

give it a rest wendylaroux Sep 2015 #205

For the same reasons the President is an enabler of the 1%, she is untrustworthy . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #207

She's a southerner Doingto Sep 2015 #209

Ah, yes, don't you just love the Old South grandeur of... SMC22307 Sep 2015 #228

If people who value/uphold traditional Democratic values are far left... demmiblue Sep 2015 #213

The media's manipulation and distortions of Hillary Clinton Veritas48 Sep 2015 #218

because they still resent that it took moderates like the Clintons ericson00 Sep 2015 #224

Ah yes, that diabolical Hillary hate Scootaloo Sep 2015 #226

Your question is tendenciously framed, of course. Vattel Sep 2015 #229

I like Obama, dislike Hillary, and as per the online test match best with Bernie rufus dog Sep 2015 #234

Because I'm not sexist or racist and she still sucks. eom Fawke Em Sep 2015 #246

Racism is unacceptable (in the left), sexism is still the status quo. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #247

I criticized Obama and voted for a woman for president in 2012. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #253

Welcome to DU! Fumesucker Sep 2015 #254

You hit the nail on the head. Beacool Sep 2015 #285

The "far left" is just a bunch of progressive policy junkies who don't care about personalities eridani Sep 2015 #261

The Hillary bashing is getting old Gothmog Sep 2015 #262

Typical third way hyperbole JackInGreen Sep 2015 #266

Another 'no link' OP projecting onto Sanders supporters AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #270

Hillary hate = Any type of Hillary criticism marmar Sep 2015 #275

I agree that the intensity is indeed greater Gothmog Sep 2015 #276

I don't hate her but I lost respect for her a long time ago marlakay Sep 2015 #277

Her marriage, her decision. Not yours to make. Beacool Sep 2015 #280

Of course it was her decision marlakay Sep 2015 #283

" If anything, Hillary is further left."--Because this isn't actually true. Chan790 Sep 2015 #281

I've seen a lot of unsupported Obama hate Hollingsworth Sep 2015 #282

There is no hate, disagreement yes, deal with it and try to confuse the issues. n/t slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #284