Hillary has spent most of her political career denying she's a liberal

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196. Understand yes. "Supposed to be the opposite of", or something like that, no.

We cannot define ourselves in terms of the others. That is the road to... (well, anyone can fill in the blanks).

We must have and always present our own positive message. And we Definitely do!

I find it a very dangerous mistake to confuse need for understanding of the opposite side with the idea of defining oneself in opposition to what is then supposedly understood about that other side.

There are NO "Positive Aspects" to the Republican "opposite side." That your posts (so far in this discussion) have referred to that idea consistently is very troubling to me. Religious right crazies who control the Republican party are NOT presenting anything positive for the 99%. Just try Thom Hartmann's challenge (http://www.thomhartmann.com/bigpicture/what-good-have-conservatives-done-america).

Besides, the "opposite side" could disappear tomorrow and we would still have the same goals to improve the lot in life for the 99%, ensure true equal rights, opportunities and fulfillment for all people (including those suckered into the "positive aspects" of the "opposite side&quot , truly protect and improve the state of our environment,...

It has nothing to do with a THEM, and everything to do with us.

Letting "them" define "the stated principles as a starting point" means letting them define the terms and conclusions of the argument.