2016 Postmortem

Ed Suspicious

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120. That is a big part of what is so damned attractive about the man. I think he's is serving

Fri Sep 11, 2015, 02:06 PM

Sep 2015

his country in a time of class war. I really think, while he is completely invested in his run for president, he would have been very happy without it. I think he is making a sacrifice to become president, and I hope this isn't overstating, but I think his sacrifice is similar to George Washington's. He will be a reluctant president, but he will serve his country with everything he has.

His run is in no way about personal ambition. His run is about duty to country.

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Why would anyone want to run on the Democratic ticket if they feel this way? [View all] leftofcool Sep 2015 OP

Great, you are back. Glad you decided not to leave to go somewhere else Autumn Sep 2015 #1

So, which of those statements, at the time they were made ... staggerleem Sep 2015 #86

If your "A" student brother is addicted to heroin and is fucking up his life do you kick him to the Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #2

+1 daleanime Sep 2015 #29

+2 villager Sep 2015 #37

+3 nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #51

you lost me on this one, Leftofcool SCantiGOP Sep 2015 #76

Bernie will win the election. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #95

Totally agree regarding petty backstabing and bashing. Bubzer Sep 2015 #118

+4 Bubzer Sep 2015 #70

Good idea. +5 n/t sarge43 Sep 2015 #108

No. You lash out at concerned friends for "bashing" your addicted brother. frylock Sep 2015 #72

+4 NJCher Sep 2015 #101

+5 L0oniX Sep 2015 #115

This does not work for me PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #137

In this case though the addict is in a position to destroy your life anyway Fumesucker Sep 2015 #143

Bernie is running to make things better for people, not a party. djean111 Sep 2015 #3

Plus a million! SoapBox Sep 2015 #90

This jumps out at me... onehandle Sep 2015 #4

How else could he hope to effect change, without, say, being servile to Little Debbie and djean111 Sep 2015 #14

Exactly!!!! nt wendylaroux Sep 2015 #105

That's completely silly. Jim Lane Sep 2015 #68

I wish Hillary would break the status quo and ruffle some feathers. tecelote Sep 2015 #75

former Vermont Governor Madeleine Kunin, AlbertCat Sep 2015 #80

+1 ozone_man Sep 2015 #133

Why dont you ask him? Armstead Sep 2015 #5

Thanks, I was looking for that. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #7

+1. Love how some try to make a point when there's already an answer available. Dawgs Sep 2015 #16

So he's just using the Democratic party? JTFrog Sep 2015 #39

He's using it for what it is supposed to be used for Armstead Sep 2015 #43

I have to agree with you...no points this round. GitRDun Sep 2015 #54

I think if Hillary gets the nom, he should run as a 3rd party candidate adigal Sep 2015 #60

What would really be entertaining Flying Squirrel Sep 2015 #117

The Democratic party is not a static organization. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #55

One slight modification if I may? Bernie may or may not get elected... Bubzer Sep 2015 #85

You may and a +1 for doing so. nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #134

Thank you! Bubzer Sep 2015 #139

He's fixing the Democratic party.. frylock Sep 2015 #77

When the mainstream Democratic Party became corporate owned and moved right, PatrickforO Sep 2015 #102

+1000 nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #53

Where does Hillary stand on the TPP? Or the Keystone Pipeline? People are asking when sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #6

This may help dragonlady Sep 2015 #146

It's Great! earthside Sep 2015 #8

A better question is: in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #9

This is why he should now join the party officially. DanTex Sep 2015 #10

His ambition is to make things better for the people in this country. You make it sound djean111 Sep 2015 #15

That's also Hillary's ambition, and O'Malley's, and everyone else's. DanTex Sep 2015 #20

He already is a very valuable asset. just as he is. They recognize that, or they would djean111 Sep 2015 #28

Maybe, but he could be more valuable if he joined the party officially. That way after 2016, if by DanTex Sep 2015 #35

I would have to see a big change in the party, getting rid of debbie DINO and all of the other DINOs djean111 Sep 2015 #38

I think the Third Way thing is already on its way down, thanks to Obama. DanTex Sep 2015 #41

Wow. Mighty Bernie. And Obama is a third-wayer, sorry. he is a corporatist through and through. djean111 Sep 2015 #42

Might have been, who knows. Obama is probably the most progressive president since FDR, DanTex Sep 2015 #44

No, I just do not like them on the issues. djean111 Sep 2015 #49

Don't see much of the religious idol-worship from Hillary supporters. DanTex Sep 2015 #61

No, we don't think that way at all. That is a meme you are trying to perpetuate, but it is only djean111 Sep 2015 #69

Actually, I can easily accept that people would support someone other than Hillary. DanTex Sep 2015 #83

Oh, I see we have reached the inevitable hyperbolic "Hillary is evil" stage. djean111 Sep 2015 #87

Thank you for your Marty McGraw Sep 2015 #113

Bizarre nonsense AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #125

Fer fuck sake..."to furthr his own ambitions?" Armstead Sep 2015 #19

Umm, yes. He does have presidential ambitions, does he not? DanTex Sep 2015 #24

The snarky tone of your comment is what is grating Armstead Sep 2015 #27

And, yet, it's accurate. He has been attacking the party for years, and now he wants to use the DanTex Sep 2015 #32

Actually, he doesn't. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #57

I'm with you. Bernie could easily have just stayed put in the Senate and never stuck his PatrickforO Sep 2015 #104

That is a big part of what is so damned attractive about the man. I think he's is serving Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #120

It says something very horrible about the society we have become PatrickforO Sep 2015 #123

Don't you ever get tired of posting your bullshit? HERVEPA Sep 2015 #22

LOL. Guess you don't think he should join the party then... DanTex Sep 2015 #36

I don't think it matters one whit. HERVEPA Sep 2015 #46

Fair enough, different opinions and all. Guess you're not big on the whole civil disagreement thing. DanTex Sep 2015 #47

I'm not big on the continual irrelavant posts about Bernie's party affiliation. HERVEPA Sep 2015 #58

I for one don't AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #126

don't you? treestar Sep 2015 #145

That way he could be official, like Official Kim!!!! Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #23

Umm, Kim Davis doesn't "fill my qualifications." What qualifications are you talking about? DanTex Sep 2015 #26

Your biug qualification seems to be the "D" on the jersey. Nothing else. nt djean111 Sep 2015 #30

Aha: "seems". That's where you went wrong. DanTex Sep 2015 #34

+1 beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #33

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Sep 2015 #114

No, he shouldn't AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #124

To fix it. Obvious to everyone except those who benefit from the status quo aikoaiko Sep 2015 #11

1985, the year after many 'Democrats' voted for Reagan. This Party was still very distant to LGBT Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #12

I've been a registered Democrat since 1972 - But is there one person here who claim with a straight Douglas Carpenter Sep 2015 #13

I am so on the same page that you are on. n/t djean111 Sep 2015 #18

Simple obvious truth. Thank you for stating it for us. JEB Sep 2015 #21

The DU house in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #31

+1 nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #50

Kick & highly recommended! William769 Sep 2015 #17

You wouldn't, back in 1989, want to be a Democrat. Schema Thing Sep 2015 #25

It causes me to wonder, what is the problem. Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #40

You mean like this guy? Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #45

My local ABC affiliate uses a version of this saidsimplesimon Sep 2015 #100

For the same reasons so many of us remain Democrats despite feeling the same way. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #48

Translation: I'd rather have a new Nader to whine about for a decade and a half rather than risk TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #52

to take it back where it needs to be ibegurpard Sep 2015 #56

I think these quotes will help him in the general election. Senator Tankerbell Sep 2015 #59

Oh, I guess that it doesn't matter RoccoR5955 Sep 2015 #62

Do you actually believe that Clinton will win? Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #63

If everyone who agrees that the New Dems are ideologically bankrupt left the party, Doctor_J Sep 2015 #64

I am a Hillary supporter but I don't think the upaloopa Sep 2015 #65

Bernie is trying to pull this party back to the left WDIM Sep 2015 #66

Okay. So imagine Plan B. Vinca Sep 2015 #67

Well I ask myself why after almost 40 years of being a member of the Democratic Party YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #71

Looks like the new meme is "Bernie isn't on our Team"-waaaaaaaaaaah. jalan48 Sep 2015 #73

this one's not new ibegurpard Sep 2015 #79

I haven't seen it displayed so often until recently. jalan48 Sep 2015 #84

Loyalty oaths are for assholes n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #74

Which Are You, Bernie??? Gamecock Lefty Sep 2015 #78

Asked and answered. Running as an I wouls help the Repubs LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #138

Because we want him to. Obviously you think the NEW jwirr Sep 2015 #81

We desperately need to turn OFF the attacks of Hillary by certain Bernie supporters here randys1 Sep 2015 #82

Why would anyone want to run on the Democratic ticket if they feel this way? AlbertCat Sep 2015 #88

Because his alternative would have been to run as an independent . . . freedom fighter jh Sep 2015 #89

Bernie Sanders is a Democratic Socialist MDNadezda Sep 2015 #91

It's so simple a fool could understand: the ACA was better than nothing. arcane1 Sep 2015 #93

You may have missed my point MDNadezda Sep 2015 #129

If Bernie Sanders becomes president then he'll sign bills which aren't as liberal as he'd prefer. Eric J in MN Sep 2015 #116

What's the point of him being president? MDNadezda Sep 2015 #128

What a fresh perspective! We never heard any of this 1,000 times already. arcane1 Sep 2015 #130

Wow that was unkind. treestar Sep 2015 #144

The point is having a president who will get the most liberal bills he can. Eric J in MN Sep 2015 #140

It's sad when an Independent is more true to Democratic ideals... Ino Sep 2015 #92

I'd vote for him if he ran as an Independent - I don't care. Maedhros Sep 2015 #94

It is what carpet baggers do. hack89 Sep 2015 #96

Lol. Unintentional hypocrisy Rilgin Sep 2015 #131

Bernie had been a resident of Brooklyn, he ran for representative from Vermont, Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #147

Why can't he evolve to realpolitik of the party system to solve problems in the highest office? ancianita Sep 2015 #97

I just keep thinking the big tent must be shrinking? Funny it doesn't shrink for the Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #98

Same reason Jesus beat the shit out of the bank$ters in the temple. So the story goes, anyway.n/t jtuck004 Sep 2015 #99

Are there any HRC supporters who don't act like whiny republicans thowing hissy fits? litlbilly Sep 2015 #103

Hit and Run Poster? Ron Green Sep 2015 #106

HRC Panic ymetca Sep 2015 #107

I think you're right HassleCat Sep 2015 #109

Yet he's STILL a better Democrat than most Democrats. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #110

Wait a min Truprogressive85 Sep 2015 #111

No,we need to ask ourselves wendylaroux Sep 2015 #112

Reminds me of someone who doesn't want to join the union LuvLoogie Sep 2015 #119

I don't care if a Democrat wins kacekwl Sep 2015 #121

Sanders needs to run on the Democratic ticket for any chance to win the nomination. Raine1967 Sep 2015 #122

Why would anyone who's dying to bomb Iran want to run on the Democratic ticket? tularetom Sep 2015 #127

So you don't want anyone to run as a Democrat who ever felt disillusioned jfern Sep 2015 #132

To fix it LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #135

"I believe marriage is not just a bond but a sacred bond between a man and a woman.� Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #136

Puzzling evidence. Bonobo Sep 2015 #141

pfffffffffffffffft. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #142