2016 Postmortem

JDPriestly

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24. It is due to wanting something too much. Her desire to be president is more important than

Fri Sep 11, 2015, 07:08 PM

Sep 2015

anything else.

It's not about America or the people of America, it's about Hillary, all about Hillary.

Too controlling and I'm sorry to say, just really not having taken the time in her life to know who she is and what she wants other than to be president.

It comes of shallow, and I think maybe that's the reality. Sorry to say this, but trying to appear to be something even if it is close to who you are in order to obtain a goal like say being president just doesn't work.

Her problem is too that she is running against a really authentic candidate whose goal it has been for many years to listen to voters, talk to voters (Thom Hartmann''s show) and work for the voters and the best interests of America very patiently.

Hillary should focus on the Clinton foundation and the good work it is doing and let Bernie be president. That's my opinion.

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Ouch !!! - 'The Clinton Campaign Puts The �Moron� Into Oxymoron' - WaPo [View all] WillyT Sep 2015 OP

Scorpions sting padfun Sep 2015 #1

I've heard that parable. I'm not interested in being the fox that gets stung and drowns. Bubzer Sep 2015 #81

It is a shame that she is so managed since she has real gifts. olegramps Sep 2015 #123

To be honest, the real reason for all the consultants and all the makeovers is sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #135

exceedingly well said! green917 Sep 2015 #150

That's what a lot of people can't seem to get. It's ALL about the Issues. And on those issues sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #156

Makes me wonder if Marty McGraw Sep 2015 #165

precisely! green917 Sep 2015 #168

So her work as Secretary of State was horrible. olegramps Sep 2015 #167

BASH BASH BASH Hillary, BASH BASH BASH randys1 Sep 2015 #2

Yeah yeah, we get it. Thou shalt not criticize morningfog Sep 2015 #6

You do know randys1 is a bernie supporter, correct? sheshe2 Sep 2015 #48

. Dragonfli Sep 2015 #70

- L0oniX Sep 2015 #72

To make it a threesome... SMC22307 Sep 2015 #75

Just like all those other Bernie "supporters"... cui bono Sep 2015 #76

Doesn't seem like it. Every time he does that bash bash bash thing, PatrickforO Sep 2015 #98

Maybe you should have a conversation with him sheshe2 Sep 2015 #100

Odd, so am I... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #162

Even Dems are jerks uwep Sep 2015 #137

Who's the jerk here? morningfog Sep 2015 #138

this was damn good advice ibegurpard Sep 2015 #10

do you want this sort of disconnected ineptness in the oval office? reddread Sep 2015 #40

Depends on which Hillary makeover we're talkin about. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #110

will it come with a guarantee/warranty? reddread Sep 2015 #136

Sad but true. Countin on Bernie to change all that. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #145

yes, who could possibly think "planned spontaneity" was ripe to be made fun of? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #13

Oh, I don't know. In Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, no one made fun of Professor McGonagle PatrickforO Sep 2015 #99

She seems to have bought herself some real talent Hollingsworth Sep 2015 #146

Is it? It sounds like it's asking for Hillary to be Hillary to me. Gore1FL Sep 2015 #14

I can be objective and I think this is a pretty good observation of what's going on. gateley Sep 2015 #16

gateley? sheshe2 Sep 2015 #50

shee!!!!!!! gateley Sep 2015 #59

Hey gateley!!!!!!!! sheshe2 Sep 2015 #61

Whether or not he runs, I'm hoping it makes him feel good that so many gateley Sep 2015 #64

Thanks sweets. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #67

Biden "stands for women"? Really? After what he did to Anita Hill (and the women who came to kath Sep 2015 #143

+1 beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #158

It's the curse of too much money - it means too many consultants telling her what to do. And then CanadaexPat Sep 2015 #63

Really an act of betrayal -- nobody has and loyalty anymore. gateley Sep 2015 #65

A bit like too many cooks spoil the pot... Bubzer Sep 2015 #83

A President has lots of consultants and salaried advisors telling him or her what to do as well. merrily Sep 2015 #87

very good point NJCher Sep 2015 #119

It's often a fake point. CanadaexPat Sep 2015 #121

I hadn't noticed that, but now that you mention it, it's stupid (for anybody). SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #128

probably never occurred to them NJCher Sep 2015 #152

" it gives the appearance of disarray and constant panic" SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #126

It's like previews of next season's VEEP-credit claiming/blame dodging. Divernan Sep 2015 #163

I agree there are some fair critiques of the campaign in this piece. It reminds me of 2008 when I Metric System Sep 2015 #157

No, MILBANK MILBANK MILBANK. Not Bash Bash Bash. TrollBuster9090 Sep 2015 #27

lol 840high Sep 2015 #33

Look... You Can Ascribe Any Motivations To Me That You Want, But... WillyT Sep 2015 #44

Interesting you mention tone deaf here. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #106

Bashing gets you recs~ sheshe2 Sep 2015 #49

Wow... Really ??? WillyT Sep 2015 #56

Remember what you said to me Willy? sheshe2 Sep 2015 #60

Remember the OP you posted? cui bono Sep 2015 #140

Associating Bernie with slavery and racist cops got you 23: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #93

How many recs did you get for your worse than bashing OPs? cui bono Sep 2015 #141

At least no one's trying to imply she's racist like a lot of DUers have with Bernie. cui bono Sep 2015 #77

When they were trying to swiftboat Sanders? Fumesucker Sep 2015 #104

Point taken. cui bono Sep 2015 #142

LO fucking L pocoloco Sep 2015 #120

It is "Hillary's" campaign.... raindaddy Sep 2015 #130

Hillary responsible? Responsibility is for the great unwashed. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #147

Why'd she win NH in 2008? jeff47 Sep 2015 #3

Let's ask the consultants! Nt. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #7

maybe she should hire Uber-Consultant Axelrod! Fuddnik Sep 2015 #117

Was she? A woman mentioned her hair and make up and asked how she could manage merrily Sep 2015 #88

This is a very good point. Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #107

Dana Milbank. I just don't like this guy. He is such an opportunist. It's now OK to bash Hillary, so thereismore Sep 2015 #4

nothing in that article is inherently wrong. If it was she would be leading now. All she is roguevalley Sep 2015 #9

I dont agree that she has no poltical sense. I think others said it right...she needs to be herself. Bubzer Sep 2015 #84

She's "allowed" to be whatever she wants. All the final decisions about how she presents herself merrily Sep 2015 #89

Thank you! frylock Sep 2015 #91

Either way. Either we are seeing Hillary, or we are seeing someone who hires the wrong people merrily Sep 2015 #92

I couldn't agree more.. frylock Sep 2015 #94

And it's hard to trust Clinton to tell good advice from bad advice, if we are Nay Sep 2015 #112

Right on! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #102

That seems a fair assessment Bubzer Sep 2015 #159

Ahh...bad use of wording on my part. Sorry for that. Bubzer Sep 2015 #155

"with zero political sense" < That's not true. If this was 1990 she would be spot on. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2015 #118

Okay, then: "Quarter of a century old political sense" demwing Sep 2015 #144

It's also about integrity. Skwmom Sep 2015 #5

"perhaps the most transparent phoniness since Al Gore discovered earth tones." bvar22 Sep 2015 #8

Stay the course FlatBaroque Sep 2015 #11

Yup. SoapBox Sep 2015 #12

It is due to wanting something too much. Her desire to be president is more important than JDPriestly Sep 2015 #24

^^^WHAT JDPriestly SAID^^^ Android3.14 Sep 2015 #30

You said it! I always Duval Sep 2015 #32

Amen XemaSab Sep 2015 #41

100% reddread Sep 2015 #42

So true. hifiguy Sep 2015 #43

When you said fixated it made me think of Romney marlakay Sep 2015 #57

HRC is like so many managers. They have to hear "That is the best idea I have ever heard" from LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #45

Christie's another one NJCher Sep 2015 #122

I have worked with managers like that, and no I did not being around when LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #133

... gateley Sep 2015 #71

... MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #86

I share a similar opinion. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #103

This strikes me as very true, and is probably the source of all my trepidation Nay Sep 2015 #113

Yep. nt SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #129

You know, PatSeg Sep 2015 #151

I'm waiting for Hillary 7.0, when she declares that she's a socialist. Old Crow Sep 2015 #15

In Hillary 8.0, she finally admits she is a Communist Tea Partier/Wobbly Bircher LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #17

People want a person kacekwl Sep 2015 #18

Agree -- that's the only reason I can think of that he's soaring in the polls. gateley Sep 2015 #68

I honestly don't think she has any idea anymore hifiguy Sep 2015 #19

^^^this^^^ Demeter Sep 2015 #22

Every day the parallels with Nixon become more apparent. hifiguy Sep 2015 #23

No, she started out as a Goldwater Girl and someone who, circa 1960, rejected merrily Sep 2015 #96

Sigh... SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #154

Smart people posting this evening Android3.14 Sep 2015 #31

That happens when you put your faith in money. zeemike Sep 2015 #37

I also think Hillary would be doing fine if she were only up against the same old Nay Sep 2015 #114

You make a lot of good points. nt gateley Sep 2015 #66

That's what I've been thinking these days... KoKo Sep 2015 #149

I love these lines from Mame, talking to her actress friend: Demeter Sep 2015 #20

Hey-She may do what Milbank suggests... catnhatnh Sep 2015 #21

LOL. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #25

Her big-mouthed staff have created an "etch-a-sketch" meme for her. She needs to do some tblue37 Sep 2015 #26

Yeah, good ole' Dana. Hey! Remember that time he purposely misquoted Obama in 2008? wyldwolf Sep 2015 #28

I am sure you know what an ad hominem attack is? Attack the messanger and ignore the message. rhett o rick Sep 2015 #55

I'm sure you know what an unreliable blowhard he is? wyldwolf Sep 2015 #58

I salute you. It's hard to argue against point that's borrowed from a Mad Libs tablet. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #73

And that's about as substantive a response as I expected. nm rhett o rick Sep 2015 #79

First, I support Hilary Clinton. And second... TrollBuster9090 Sep 2015 #29

Will the the real Hillary please stand up! passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #35

^^ This !!! ^^ WillyT Sep 2015 #36

Halfway there Rilgin Sep 2015 #97

Hillary 6.0 = The Real Hillary mhatrw Sep 2015 #34

solid advice, and it was free AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #38

That's What I Thought... WillyT Sep 2015 #39

She'll ditch the consultants as soon as she hears back from them if it's a good idea. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #46

Milbank lecturing on being 'authentic?' bigtree Sep 2015 #47

it is possible to be an authentic pompous ass virtualobserver Sep 2015 #51

right bigtree Sep 2015 #54

oddly enough, this is exactly what those who love clinton need to hear DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #52

Exactly !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #53

Yep!! Good advice, and it's free. nt Nay Sep 2015 #115

He voted for John McCain in 2000, Chuck Hagel in 2004, and Michael Bloomberg in 2008. oberliner Sep 2015 #62

That doesn't make what he said any less valid. He didn't present it in a gateley Sep 2015 #69

I remember reading about that woman in the '90s BuelahWitch Sep 2015 #74

i would very much like to see Clinton "chuck all that" n/t eridani Sep 2015 #78

OMG�Yes, Hillary Clinton needs to be herself! CoffeeCat Sep 2015 #80

Honestly? I'd say if she hasn't learned it by now... Old Crow Sep 2015 #82

even her movements and speech seem phony and trite grasswire Sep 2015 #85

Her advisors and strategists are the people SHE decided merrily Sep 2015 #90

Correction Geronimoe Sep 2015 #95

And she also was working for Sam Walton, truedelphi Sep 2015 #101

high profile joke? NJCher Sep 2015 #125

Again, this is all horse race BS. salib Sep 2015 #105

Yeah, winning is the issue Lorien Sep 2015 #108

Ouch! That's gotta hurt. But the part I felt was most correct is this bit: peacebird Sep 2015 #109

The voters do NOT reject a phony every time. tomp Sep 2015 #111

Sadly true, kacekwl Sep 2015 #116

Yeah, Dana Milbank has always been so objective regarding Hillary Clinton One of the 99 Sep 2015 #124

She can't "be herself" because SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHO SHE IS! tularetom Sep 2015 #127

So a weak, dependent woman did this? Rose Siding Sep 2015 #134

Hmmmmm...I have a different take on this. elzenmahn Sep 2015 #139

Flashback: Dana Milbank calls Hillary a "mad bitch" Phantomaz Sep 2015 #131

Please. None of that matters. randome Sep 2015 #132

Milbank is not the only one! HenryWallace Sep 2015 #148

Thank You For That !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #153

Think: Spanish armada, English Channel, 1588. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #160

Even if she dumped the consultants, she would still be Hillary... . emsimon33 Sep 2015 #161

You know Bezos owns WAPO... right??? NotHardly Sep 2015 #164

Hillary should emulate the Italian tennis player who beat Serena yesterday. Vinca Sep 2015 #166