2016 Postmortem

DanTex

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11. It's funny that nobody actually wants to discuss Bernie's evolution.

Sat Sep 12, 2015, 11:54 AM

Sep 2015

Or the issue of whether private investors should be able to raise capital and build factories and hire workers, or whether the government should be doing that instead.

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The most evolved Dem candidate is Bernie Sanders. By a long shot. [View all] DanTex Sep 2015 OP

He also went from conscientious objector to... SonderWoman Sep 2015 #1

... MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #6

I block videos on my phone. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #25

I agree, It'd be really frightening to have this Hippie Peacenik Warmonger in office Armstead Sep 2015 #71

At least he didn't laugh it up about going to war with Iran: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #92

That Is A Whole Lot Of Creative Speculation cantbeserious Sep 2015 #2

How old was Bernie when he last "evolved" on a major issue? MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #3

When he was 46, he was in favor of the government owning the major industries. DanTex Sep 2015 #10

Do you have a link? MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #35

Sure. Here's a Bernie quote from a 1987 interview. DanTex Sep 2015 #36

Long interview, will read it later for context MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #61

LMAO. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #4

at least we finally know what desperation smells like virtualobserver Sep 2015 #5

He never fails to deliver. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #9

the funny thing is, the title is correct virtualobserver Sep 2015 #14

The whole post is correct, not just the title. You'll find that happens a lot with my OPs if you DanTex Sep 2015 #21

What I find is that you start off with a false premise...... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #40

Not sure what you mean by that. Bernie used to be a classical socialist, and now he's a capitalist. DanTex Sep 2015 #42

Democratic Socialist then and now virtualobserver Sep 2015 #47

Sure, he was never an authoritarian socialist, but he was in favor of government ownership DanTex Sep 2015 #51

"in favor of government ownership of major industries" virtualobserver Sep 2015 #56

He didn't go into details about what should be nationalized. His term was DanTex Sep 2015 #57

He did not say "nationalized" he said "decentralization" virtualobserver Sep 2015 #59

He said "public ownership of the major means of production" which means government owned. DanTex Sep 2015 #60

when you read his entire statement, it is clear that he did not mean that. virtualobserver Sep 2015 #62

What's clear is that he wanted the government to own the major industries. DanTex Sep 2015 #68

only in your imagination virtualobserver Sep 2015 #72

Again, he said "public ownership of the major means of production". DanTex Sep 2015 #74

public is people, and he said "decentralized" virtualobserver Sep 2015 #75

"Public ownership" has only one meaning: owned by the government. DanTex Sep 2015 #78

if that was really his position in 1987 virtualobserver Sep 2015 #80

Aha, so now you're saying that he misspoke when he very clearly advocated for DanTex Sep 2015 #83

you "imagine", but you can't back it up. He didn't misspeak, you misinterpreted virtualobserver Sep 2015 #89

Ooh, this keeps getting better. So now, unless Bernie advocates for government DanTex Sep 2015 #91

If he never said anything like that during his entire career, it shows how flimsy your assertion is. virtualobserver Sep 2015 #93

That is true. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #22

perhaps no evolution at all virtualobserver Sep 2015 #50

I noticed. 840high Sep 2015 #90

I have an image of a poster artislife Sep 2015 #18

Wow I think you are on to something. Puglover Sep 2015 #79

all that's missing from his OP titles is odd numbered listicles MoveIt Sep 2015 #84

Remember, the OP, last I heard, hasn't quite made up his mind yet who to support. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #94

Lol. We see through their silly game. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #95

Only two sentences before lobbing "Hillary haters". Wilms Sep 2015 #7

Sounds like "Bernie Hate" to me, maybe even full-blown BDS (Bernie Derangement Syndrome)!! Bonobo Sep 2015 #8

It's funny that nobody actually wants to discuss Bernie's evolution. DanTex Sep 2015 #11

It's frustrating to be greeted with your own dodges. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #20

Not sure what that means. So about Bernie's evolution, how do you explain it? DanTex Sep 2015 #24

It means your BS about Hillary Hate Bonobo Sep 2015 #27

Hillary hate, yes of course that's the main reason why people ignore Bernie's evolving DanTex Sep 2015 #28

No, you totally misunderstand! Bonobo Sep 2015 #33

That's odd. So what do you think of Bernie's massive evolution? Don't want to talk about that, huh. DanTex Sep 2015 #34

Your vicious unreasoning hatred of Bernie is disturbing. Nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #37

Actually, I like Bernie, I think he's great. So what do you think of his evolution? DanTex Sep 2015 #38

Really? How predictable. The hate is palpable. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #39

I like Bernie, I've been consistent about that. So how about that evolution? DanTex Sep 2015 #41

You are really just a red-baiting troll PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #12

Yes, "red-baiting" is one of the terms people use to avoid giving coherent answers. DanTex Sep 2015 #17

It is you trying to conflate. PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #19

Not at all: communism and socialism are distinct. You just like to call people names DanTex Sep 2015 #23

facts are facts PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #26

For example, the fact that Bernie is a socialist, not a communist. DanTex Sep 2015 #30

I am proud of his socialist economic tendencies PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #43

In the OP you called him a capitalist so which is he, a capitalist or a socialist? Bjorn Against Sep 2015 #49

I believe that he is now a capitalist, and that in 1987 he was a classical socialist. DanTex Sep 2015 #53

So why then in the post that I responded to did you refer to "the fact that Bernie is a socialist"? Bjorn Against Sep 2015 #55

The point of that post is that I never called him "communist", and yet I was being accused of DanTex Sep 2015 #76

So now you twist yourself in knots to explain how he could be both socialist and capitalist Bjorn Against Sep 2015 #81

LOL. Now you're doing the same thing. The only people talking about communists DanTex Sep 2015 #85

I edited my post, I meant to say capitalist and typed the wrong word Bjorn Against Sep 2015 #86

OK, fair enough. DanTex Sep 2015 #87

And do you know why? pinebox Sep 2015 #13

He didn't support marriage equality in 1973 dsc Sep 2015 #29

Catch :) pinebox Sep 2015 #46

No it would not dsc Sep 2015 #54

It is not clear when exactly Bernie became a supporter of marriage equality... Bjorn Against Sep 2015 #58

I have researched the isse dsc Sep 2015 #64

Um, about the Arkansas sodomy law... cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #63

in fairness we are both right dsc Sep 2015 #66

I'll go with that Android3.14 Sep 2015 #15

I'd say that would be Jim Webb, long time Republican and holder of major positions in the Reagan Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #16

I'll give you that Jim Webb evolved a lot. DanTex Sep 2015 #44

Weren't you just arguing on another azmom Sep 2015 #31

No. I was arguing he was that in the 80s (which, by his own words, he was). DanTex Sep 2015 #32

And you're basing this evolution off your failed interpretation of an article from 1987? ram2008 Sep 2015 #45

lol LWolf Sep 2015 #48

Bwahahhah! You never fail to crack me up. morningfog Sep 2015 #52

I love the way some folks on DU start calling DanTex names redstateblues Sep 2015 #65

Bill had long hair when he was young and look at him now! Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #67

Yes, that's exactly like dramatically switching your political economic worldview DanTex Sep 2015 #69

You're very young, right? Armstead Sep 2015 #70

Well, I used to be "very" young. Now I'm young-ish. DanTex Sep 2015 #73

I haven't the time to explain it all but... Armstead Sep 2015 #77

Is Yosemite Sam from Texas? MoveIt Sep 2015 #82

Well, he's the oldest, that's for sure. elleng Sep 2015 #88