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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Ouch !!! - 'The Clinton Campaign Puts The ‘Moron’ Into Oxymoron' - WaPo [View all]KoKo
(84,711 posts)149. That's what I've been thinking these days...
No one but Richard Nixon has ever run for the presidency so long and so obsessively. No one who wants the office that badly should ever have it.
Her campaign's announcement that Bill is coming in this week to do fundraising and appearances doesn't look good either.
I've been asking on posts for awhile here "What role will Bill play in Clinton Administration as the "First Man" and get no answer from Hillary supporters. Either they think I'm being snarky or they don't have an answer.
I ask because no one seems to want to talk about Bill's role....and, yet I think its important for us to know about. I'm a Bernie supporter but if he can't get the nomination then Hillary will be the Dem nominee and it will be too late to ask ...."What about Bill?" Is Hillary running partly for Bill's ambition to have another term so that his legacy is remembered in better terms than the scandals that dogged his first? Or, is it just because both of them are power hungry to such an extreme degree that its unhealthy. Which would along with what you say as a caution: "No one who wants the office that badly should ever have it."
Another example of power obsession is Dick Cheney who was so obsessed with power, and still is, that many feel he was the REAL Acting President behind Bush II. His ideology and friendliness with the NeoCons certainly has affected our country in a disastrous way in international and domestic policy. Hillary has had many of those same people as her advisers who have influenced her throughout her governmental career. And, Bill now has his "Clinton Foundation" with ties to foreign governments and corporations that might have undue influence over Clinton 3's Policy and Governance.
Anyway...that's my concern with a Hillary/Bill Presidency
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Ouch !!! - 'The Clinton Campaign Puts The ‘Moron’ Into Oxymoron' - WaPo [View all]
WillyT
Sep 2015
OP
I've heard that parable. I'm not interested in being the fox that gets stung and drowns.
Bubzer
Sep 2015
#81
To be honest, the real reason for all the consultants and all the makeovers is
sabrina 1
Sep 2015
#135
That's what a lot of people can't seem to get. It's ALL about the Issues. And on those issues
sabrina 1
Sep 2015
#156
yes, who could possibly think "planned spontaneity" was ripe to be made fun of?
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#13
Oh, I don't know. In Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, no one made fun of Professor McGonagle
PatrickforO
Sep 2015
#99
I can be objective and I think this is a pretty good observation of what's going on.
gateley
Sep 2015
#16
Biden "stands for women"? Really? After what he did to Anita Hill (and the women who came to
kath
Sep 2015
#143
It's the curse of too much money - it means too many consultants telling her what to do. And then
CanadaexPat
Sep 2015
#63
A President has lots of consultants and salaried advisors telling him or her what to do as well.
merrily
Sep 2015
#87
I hadn't noticed that, but now that you mention it, it's stupid (for anybody).
SusanCalvin
Sep 2015
#128
I agree there are some fair critiques of the campaign in this piece. It reminds me of 2008 when I
Metric System
Sep 2015
#157
At least no one's trying to imply she's racist like a lot of DUers have with Bernie.
cui bono
Sep 2015
#77
Dana Milbank. I just don't like this guy. He is such an opportunist. It's now OK to bash Hillary, so
thereismore
Sep 2015
#4
nothing in that article is inherently wrong. If it was she would be leading now. All she is
roguevalley
Sep 2015
#9
I dont agree that she has no poltical sense. I think others said it right...she needs to be herself.
Bubzer
Sep 2015
#84
She's "allowed" to be whatever she wants. All the final decisions about how she presents herself
merrily
Sep 2015
#89
Either way. Either we are seeing Hillary, or we are seeing someone who hires the wrong people
merrily
Sep 2015
#92
"with zero political sense" < That's not true. If this was 1990 she would be spot on. n/t
jtuck004
Sep 2015
#118
It is due to wanting something too much. Her desire to be president is more important than
JDPriestly
Sep 2015
#24
HRC is like so many managers. They have to hear "That is the best idea I have ever heard" from
LiberalArkie
Sep 2015
#45
I have worked with managers like that, and no I did not being around when
LiberalArkie
Sep 2015
#133
In Hillary 8.0, she finally admits she is a Communist Tea Partier/Wobbly Bircher
LondonReign2
Sep 2015
#17
Her big-mouthed staff have created an "etch-a-sketch" meme for her. She needs to do some
tblue37
Sep 2015
#26
Yeah, good ole' Dana. Hey! Remember that time he purposely misquoted Obama in 2008?
wyldwolf
Sep 2015
#28
I am sure you know what an ad hominem attack is? Attack the messanger and ignore the message.
rhett o rick
Sep 2015
#55
I salute you. It's hard to argue against point that's borrowed from a Mad Libs tablet.
DisgustipatedinCA
Sep 2015
#73
She'll ditch the consultants as soon as she hears back from them if it's a good idea.
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2015
#46
He voted for John McCain in 2000, Chuck Hagel in 2004, and Michael Bloomberg in 2008.
oberliner
Sep 2015
#62
Yeah, Dana Milbank has always been so objective regarding Hillary Clinton
One of the 99
Sep 2015
#124