2016 Postmortem

mike_c

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236. it's no struggle at all....

Sat Sep 12, 2015, 03:14 PM

Sep 2015

I rarely give Senator Clinton a thought. I wrote her off years ago.

I do have something of an advantage, I think, in that I also disposed of my television many years ago. I'm not subjected to the musings of pundits or the political reporting news cycle. Frankly, I think turning off the squawking box is one of the most politically effective things we can do. It quiets the din and gives me some head space to think.

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The Sad, Sisyphean Struggle of Hillary Haters [View all] William769 Sep 2015 OP

So is not being a fan of Hillary MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #1

Remember, Manny, when you voted for Reagan? msanthrope Sep 2015 #30

Voted for him just once MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #45

Are you or are you not voting FOR Hillary, for President, in Nov 2016 if she is the randys1 Sep 2015 #54

Oh, WOW! The Pledge-y Thing has made its first appearance today! Awwww........ djean111 Sep 2015 #71

sigh randys1 Sep 2015 #80

I will - but I won't be if it's JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #112

Yeh. I'm sure the Republican will work out much better for you. HERVEPA Sep 2015 #125

We are rich JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #131

If it's Hillary - I'll write in Sanders. 840high Sep 2015 #227

Well, that would be dumb. Really, really dumb. HERVEPA Sep 2015 #231

Not dumb at all. I will never 840high Sep 2015 #234

Yet of de facto you're doing that by helping put a Republican in.. HERVEPA Sep 2015 #238

If Bernie is the Dem nominee in Nov 2016, I would beg you to vote for him. randys1 Sep 2015 #132

If you rephrase that question to make it non-antagonistic MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #133

I was trying to be brief, regardless of who the Dem is in the ACTUAL election, not the randys1 Sep 2015 #135

I will probably vote for Hillary if she's the nominee MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #137

Curious, what could POSSIBLY happen "at that time" that would make you randys1 Sep 2015 #138

Rigging the primaries AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #144

The probably is ludicrous and ridiculous. HERVEPA Sep 2015 #232

None of your business. 840high Sep 2015 #226

Your "Thanks Obama!" defense of your vote for Reagan is priceless. msanthrope Sep 2015 #139

I guess when you've got no facts to counter with, MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #142

Manny.....you chose exactly how you would defend your Reagan msanthrope Sep 2015 #148

How was it slamming? MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #155

calling President Carter a "fundy" isn't a slam? Your word. nt msanthrope Sep 2015 #161

And again... do you actually disagree? MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #165

Manny.....I do not answer your questions. I merely msanthrope Sep 2015 #166

That's the best you can do? MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #169

Your word, Manny. Defend it as you wish. nt msanthrope Sep 2015 #173

wow, I didn't realize that you voted once for reagan still_one Sep 2015 #230

I wonder what the women and girls of Libya think about Hillary, Maedhros Sep 2015 #103

Uncovered: The macabre sex chamber of Libya's Colonel Gaddafi brooklynite Sep 2015 #120

That is the line that leapt out at me and made me realize this post was nonsense. So we should have adigal Sep 2015 #168

Funny stuff! RiverLover Sep 2015 #2

I LOVE women Plucketeer Sep 2015 #47

Exactly. peacebird Sep 2015 #109

+ lots n/t whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #119

How have you been choosing all the me that juajen Sep 2015 #149

YOU'RE LUCKY SHE EVEN CAMPAIGNS FOR YOU BASTARDS!!! frylock Sep 2015 #150

Gee, who would have guessed - I am a woman, and I evidently fail to see that electing a woman djean111 Sep 2015 #3

Now this is a beautiful post. It clearly points out the significant issues and ladjf Sep 2015 #61

+ 1000 senz Sep 2015 #180

The whole "sexism" thing is really weak. sibelian Sep 2015 #222

I am certainly not saying I would have supported Hillary otherwise, but the campaign djean111 Sep 2015 #223

so I should have voted for McCain/Palin? for Fiorina? magical thyme Sep 2015 #4

LOL! So if we don't like warmongering, neocon corporatists... CoffeeCat Sep 2015 #5

Indeed kenfrequed Sep 2015 #13

Yep. I still have to defend her to right wingers irl. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #15

who gives a rip about her scandals? msanthrope Sep 2015 #32

Sorry, it's 6 for 6 thinking this post is misguided... mak3cats Sep 2015 #6

Pfft. I reject Hillary because of her record, not her gender. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #7

Uhm... kenfrequed Sep 2015 #8

The irony in this thread so far is hilarious! William769 Sep 2015 #9

What's hillaryous is expecting us to take this seriously. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #12

Ah... Ye old 'If you reject my argument, you validate it' fallacy whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #16

??? (Unless it's the "other's false conceptions" part)... mak3cats Sep 2015 #18

Irony LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #21

One of the greatest movie lines ever! ("you keep using that word..."). jonno99 Sep 2015 #122

Do you remember what the word was? /nt demwing Sep 2015 #188

Inconceivable... jonno99 Sep 2015 #204

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #123

ugh. cali Sep 2015 #10

Nice work of fiction. n/t PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #11

I kick and recommend this post Blus4u Sep 2015 #14

"the inciteful comments of the responders" JTFrog Sep 2015 #224

Nice fresh steaming pile... 99Forever Sep 2015 #17

Kicking for an article that references Sisyphus. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2015 #19

pssst...wanna buy a watch? cyberswede Sep 2015 #100

LOL. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2015 #102

K&R, so true. And considering how Hillary supporters and other folks not fans of Bernie for stevenleser Sep 2015 #20

So to clarify, you think that not peferring Hillary LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #22

The last time I got asked a question like that, it was from a Republican about my excitement for stevenleser Sep 2015 #23

LOL, nice dodge attempt, especially the part confabulating it as a "Republican" question. LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #24

It's not a dodge. That is my opinion of your question. nt stevenleser Sep 2015 #26

So do you agree with the OP that not voting for Hillary LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #27

***Crickets*** (eom) mak3cats Sep 2015 #52

I think he's asking his cronies at Fox Snooze what to say.. 99Forever Sep 2015 #72

jury results DeadLetterOffice Sep 2015 #211

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #215

40 minutes later he's still dodging. I love it when that happens. n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #53

My opinion in #23 and #26 hasn't changed. Sorry you all were waiting so long but there was stevenleser Sep 2015 #206

It's not that we don't like your answer, it's that you failed to give an answer LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #217

Don't you need to prep for a Fox News appearance? Nt Logical Sep 2015 #240

"some cases"? bvf Sep 2015 #25

Read his op blaming Bernie supporters for it: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #49

If the shoe fits. leftofcool Sep 2015 #57

Which shoe is that? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #59

You're all on notice. Please make no attempt to leave the forum. frylock Sep 2015 #151

That's something, isn't it? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #153

You knew they were going to use that despicable letter as a cudgel against Sanders supporters. frylock Sep 2015 #157

Of course. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #158

Oh yes... revmclaren Sep 2015 #207

I did, thanks. bvf Sep 2015 #67

I've been alert stalked for years here cali Sep 2015 #28

Post your IM. It simply isn't believable on face value. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #31

I've served on several juries for cali, she's telling the truth. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #35

I don't believe she is. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #37

What's "comical" is claiming HC supporters are being persecuted. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #38

"HC supporters are being persecuted." SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #43

Mmmhmmmm. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #48

Nice to see the honesty that your comments weren't about the issue the other poster brought up..... SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #51

Lol, wut? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #55

It's actually a very easy line of thought. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #88

Back up your own claim that "ninety percent of the board supports Sanders" beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #91

It is abundantly clear that you will show me respect if I make claims and don't back them up. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #94

I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy. Now can you back it up or not? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #95

It's clear from your first post to me that you were deflecting. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #98

"She says she has facts but will not share them." Sound familiar? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #104

Well, Cali was just alert stalked into silence, jeff47 Sep 2015 #170

The offenses are public thanks to the owners of this site. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #171

Then stop being hostile. jeff47 Sep 2015 #174

I have been reading here for two years. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #189

Excellent demonstration that you don't actually know. jeff47 Sep 2015 #197

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service jeff47 Sep 2015 #175

WTF? That's like the 10th bullshit alert in the last week - that I know of. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #177

:hat-tip: (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #178

Oopsie!!!! polly7 Sep 2015 #183

Yep! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #192

Hillary supporters love to cry the victim card jfern Sep 2015 #200

I'll look for it. And sorry but I don't make things up. cali Sep 2015 #64

I'm clearly not projecting as you haven't backed up your claim in any way. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #68

"a claim with nothing to back it up"? You mean like "ninety percent of the board supports Sanders"? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #73

here's one- not the one I was thinking of, but I have lots of examples cali Sep 2015 #69

That doesn't back up your claim in any way at all. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #70

bullshit. it certainly does, but you're not honorable enough to admit you're wrong cali Sep 2015 #75

Keep going. This is good. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #76

Would you believe this OP was alerted on? William769 Sep 2015 #143

So does Cali. She just got #5 from a bogus alert. jeff47 Sep 2015 #172

War is peace. East is west LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #83

war is peace is a little tricky. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #85

You can do it. Refuse to be bound by reality, I always say! LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #90

I know, right. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #96

You probably haven't been here long enough to have served on a lot of juries. polly7 Sep 2015 #99

Simple process. I know enough to know the results are emailed. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #108

I often go in and delete my junk emails after I read them polly7 Sep 2015 #116

Oh oh, don't look up LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #134

member since August 26, 2015 cali Sep 2015 #89

No kidding. Puglover Sep 2015 #97

Don't bother, cali. They're baiting you. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #74

It sure is !!!! polly7 Sep 2015 #78

Hey you!!! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #79

Ty, bmus. polly7 Sep 2015 #86

Good for you! Most of us know how to dodge a jury and sometimes we get caught. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #111

you're right. It's obvious I'm not the liar. cali Sep 2015 #82

They haven't backed up their claim that "ninety percent of the board supports Sanders" yet. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #87

I'm not "they" but that's easy. whatthehey Sep 2015 #113

Bzzzzzzt! That's not 90% of the board. Try again. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #115

It's 90% who expressed a prefernce; why should we assume the rest differ greatly? whatthehey Sep 2015 #118

Why should I assume anything? I'm asking for proof of a claim. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #121

And that is good inductive support for that claim whatthehey Sep 2015 #128

Again, I'm waiting for SouthernProgressive to back up their claim. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #129

Whatever you want to call it to feel better. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #93

not only did I provide evidence, 2 longtime duers backed.me up. cali Sep 2015 #101

They think that "I don't believe you" = proof you're wrong. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #110

Kindly post said evidence. nt msanthrope Sep 2015 #34

Yeah, I started getting Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #92

It does go both ways, you're right. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #107

"in some caseS," plural. Ugh. merrily Sep 2015 #130

Glad to see someone else caught that too. bvf Sep 2015 #140

Comments back up how much you actually nailed this one. lol. nt. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #29

Also, up is down and black is white LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #33

Up is down is a little tricky. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #36

K&R, William769. Good post! BlueCaliDem Sep 2015 #39

Thank you. William769 Sep 2015 #136

So I guess you'd vote for Carly Fiorina as your second choice Armstead Sep 2015 #40

The Sad, Sisyphean Struggle of Christmas Warriors Android3.14 Sep 2015 #41

If a person NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #42

exactly, i do not hate Hillary retrowire Sep 2015 #56

So then, NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #58

haha oh you. retrowire Sep 2015 #60

They start off all those Sanders rallies with a Two-Minute Hate with Hillary's face on the screen.. frylock Sep 2015 #159

the sad and masochistic ways of the Hillary Lovers stupidicus Sep 2015 #44

Weird stuff. I love how it always comes back to gender, too. If Hillary wins, all women win! TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #46

PUMA speak. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #50

20% more bullshit! frylock Sep 2015 #160

If you actually think I'm sexist for supporting Bernie for President, then I give up DemocraticWing Sep 2015 #62

Voting for someone because of their gender = voting against someone because of their gender. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #66

Excellent observation! (eom) mak3cats Sep 2015 #106

This. LeftOfWest Sep 2015 #167

Once you call your critics "haters" you've lost the debate. polichick Sep 2015 #63

Clinton is helping to "reinforce the gender barrier." Garrett78 Sep 2015 #65

Really? Hatchling Sep 2015 #235

Who you callin' a sissy? libodem Sep 2015 #77

Strawwoman argument Kelvin Mace Sep 2015 #81

what I think is weird is the singlular fixation some people seem to have on her, that she alone Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #84

In order for women and girls to realize their full potential I must vote for Hillary Autumn Sep 2015 #105

Great article! Lisa D Sep 2015 #114

And the hits jst keep comming in this thread. William769 Sep 2015 #127

�Being a Clinton apologist is a hard life.� AlbertCat Sep 2015 #117

Religious apologists got nuthin on the author! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #124

LOL This is hilarious pinebox Sep 2015 #126

Most people don't see the world through your upaloopa Sep 2015 #154

I define Hillary with facts pinebox Sep 2015 #214

You select the facts you want upaloopa Sep 2015 #218

Facts are facts pinebox Sep 2015 #219

I agree facts are facts but most of the time we upaloopa Sep 2015 #220

You've essentially just posted "there is no truth" three times in a row. sibelian Sep 2015 #221

Most admired woman a gazillion times. The haters are NOT the majority. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #141

lol ... irony. Now that you blocked me from the Hillary group I will unsubscribe. Kind of hard to be Hiraeth Sep 2015 #145

Why would you want to be a part of a group upaloopa Sep 2015 #152

I guess you think that because It shows the bernie group on my profile you think I can't also like Hiraeth Sep 2015 #156

The groups are not for intelligent discourse upaloopa Sep 2015 #162

LOL ... got it. Hiraeth Sep 2015 #163

Well we really do have those too upaloopa Sep 2015 #164

I believe it ... probably via PMs. (haha) But, really ... I found it educational to be told by Hiraeth Sep 2015 #176

No not via PM's upaloopa Sep 2015 #181

I did not say anything about color upaloopa Sep 2015 #182

I was not talking about what you said. I was talking about what happened with me today. Hiraeth Sep 2015 #184

I am a believer in the idea that we all see upaloopa Sep 2015 #185

I can agree with that. Hiraeth Sep 2015 #186

I don't give a shit about her "scandals" ibegurpard Sep 2015 #146

K&R Jamaal510 Sep 2015 #147

What would the h supporter post artislife Sep 2015 #179

and the truly ironic irony of the fact that a man said this: Hiraeth Sep 2015 #187

Yup nt artislife Sep 2015 #190

hating someone's policies restorefreedom Sep 2015 #191

These threads get uglier and uglier. Sad. merrily Sep 2015 #193

Gee, I suppose I have to apologize sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #194

How frustrating is it to expend so much time and mental energy bashing, bashing, bashing, only to Cha Sep 2015 #195

Are you referring to your own screeds about Hillary Clinton being an untrustworthy liar? DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #198

Better post the link or someone will try to hide your post: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #201

Thanks. I guess it's a sign of the times when you can't quote people on the self-same website... DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #202

According to you, in April of 2008 Hillary Clinton was... cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #213

Another thread bashing Bernie and his supporters? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #196

Go Hillary! Cha Sep 2015 #199

A day does not go by without "Hillary Hater" meme posted here. Bonobo Sep 2015 #203

yup- it's primary season Marrah_G Sep 2015 #205

Did you just call me a sisy? (Did he just call me a sisy?) I feel like you're calling me a sisy. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #208

I cant even believe you posted this bernmobile2016 Sep 2015 #209

Welcome to DU! sibelian Sep 2015 #225

....x10+ 840high Sep 2015 #229

KICK Cha Sep 2015 #210

I'm a TPP hater, a hater of endless war, a Keystone XL hater and a bankster hater myself n/t eridani Sep 2015 #212

Hillary only comes back stronger! Cha Sep 2015 #216

Stronger than ever HassleCat Sep 2015 #228

The problem with your post, and probably your entire political awareness, Maedhros Sep 2015 #233

it's no struggle at all.... mike_c Sep 2015 #236

Kick Jason Huh Sep 2015 #237

Just because people do not agree with Mrs. Clinton's policies, they are haters. akbacchus_BC Sep 2015 #239

Desperate much? Nt Logical Sep 2015 #241