2016 Postmortem

arcane1

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53. Party over policy is how some people roll.

Reply to MohRokTah (Reply #20)

Sat Sep 12, 2015, 06:03 PM

Sep 2015

I'm glad I'm not one of them.

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Cornel West: Join Brother Bernie on the Love Train! [View all] Fawke Em Sep 2015 OP

Listening now - getting the train ready. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #1

Hahaha! You did what I did. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #2

Yep! Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #4

Oh yes navarth Sep 2015 #30

Can't resist it. LWolf Sep 2015 #57

awesome. :D roguevalley Sep 2015 #97

That was an amazing intro! Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #3

Why are our young people making more sense than some of us older folks? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #6

'Every single thing he said made complete sense'! sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #41

The OP said West's intro gave her chill bumps. SusanaMontana41 Sep 2015 #44

Definitely go to this WaPo Link....I spent over an Hour There...Great Stuff KoKo Sep 2015 #59

"Every single thing he said made complete sense." PatrickforO Sep 2015 #177

West's support of Sanders solidifies my position. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #5

Boo. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #7

Boo-Who ? orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #104

He's been a Pillar of the African American community a lot longer than 10 yrs .PERIOD orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #105

Of course he has... TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #112

MSM Misanthrope Sycophant Monsters orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #118

The "wrong move" was aligning himself with Bernie. senz Sep 2015 #185

No, the wrong move was going against Obama. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #188

Okay, thanks! senz Sep 2015 #189

West went too far when he said Obama was like Zimmerman to the environment. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #190

Obviously he thinks and speaks in metaphors. senz Sep 2015 #195

Cornel West IS an academic. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #196

Obviously. That's a given. senz Sep 2015 #197

He's often misquoted or taken out of context.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #198

I thought you said you would sit it out because you won't vote for a "Socialist". beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #8

Do you understand what "solidifies my position" means? eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #9

I just thought I'd point out that you called him a Socialist. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #10

I didn't call him a Socialist MohRokTah Sep 2015 #11

"Can't bring myself to vote for a Socialist." beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #14

Right. Bernie Sanders is a Socialist. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #16

He's a democratic socialist while Kim Davis is a Democrat. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #17

He claims Democratic Socialist now... MohRokTah Sep 2015 #18

I'll take the democratic socialist who didn't need to evolve on civil rights, thanks. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #19

I'll take the REAL Democrat over the Socialist any day. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #20

Of course you will, like I said issues only matter to some of us. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #22

Issues matter to me. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #23

"far left extremist agenda supported by Sanders" beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #25

Only the extremists see nothing extreme about Sanders. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #26

And there's the gratuitous comparison to Trump supporters! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #27

Hes so far left, hes on the edge mccallen Sep 2015 #28

Examples of far left extremist? Armstead Sep 2015 #29

HE is barely to the left of center AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #180

If what Sanders supports is far left extremist then I am one too. zeemike Sep 2015 #32

You remind me of Obama's critics who claim he's a Marxist Anti Colonial Radical Muslim Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #33

Barack Obama is the greatest president since Roosevelt. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #38

FDR and Bernie have nearly the same exact principles and ideas. Lucky Luciano Sep 2015 #72

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! MohRokTah Sep 2015 #75

I was only referring to policy positions. Not superficial labels. Lucky Luciano Sep 2015 #82

- L0oniX Sep 2015 #133

Proving you have no clue about actual accomplishments. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #136

I can't wait for you to tell us how you will sit out the GE ...during the GE. L0oniX Sep 2015 #139

If Bernie Sanders is nominated... MohRokTah Sep 2015 #142

Good. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #147

Yay! AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #181

The fact that you believe an emoticon can prove something tells me a lot about you. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #192

Clinton was in step with that far left extremist agenda 93% of the time. frylock Sep 2015 #76

So you oppose a fair chance for working people, hm? Okay... senz Sep 2015 #187

Party over policy is how some people roll. arcane1 Sep 2015 #53

Policy means dick if the candidate is unelectable. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #54

Elecability means nothing without policy. And principles. arcane1 Sep 2015 #55

They both had policies and principles MohRokTah Sep 2015 #65

You are describing Obama AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #182

That is the mantra of H supporters. It's all you have! Elmer S. E. Dump Sep 2015 #69

Hillary 2016: To the right of left! AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #183

HILLARY 2016: Electable! frylock Sep 2015 #78

Hillary 2016: Better than a Republican! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #79

Hillary 2016: Don't be Sexist! frylock Sep 2015 #81

Hillary 2016: She's not a pinko commie dirtbag! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #83

LMAO L0oniX Sep 2015 #134

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #184

You don't have to sit it out, NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #91

Nope. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #92

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Sep 2015 #99

Not according to Bernie... revmclaren Sep 2015 #111

Blah blah blah RED SCARE blah blah blah beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #113

Blah blah blah... revmclaren Sep 2015 #114

Then go peddle your "research" elsewhere because everyone here knows about it. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #119

Nope... Like it here.. revmclaren Sep 2015 #123

Spreading something seems to be your specialty. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #127

I like to think of it as spreading sunshine... revmclaren Sep 2015 #129

How is that a "bash Hillory" chart? It compares them on the issues you say you care about. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #130

Here's a challenge for you. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #193

By the way... revmclaren Sep 2015 #117

Straw man. Why don't you try stuffing those words beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #120

A straw man doesn't use someone's own words... revmclaren Sep 2015 #124

Bzzzzzzzzt! Fail. This is the straw man you "defeated": beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #126

So you don't take sanders own words seriously? revmclaren Sep 2015 #131

And another straw man! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!!! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #132

Excellent point. n/t senz Sep 2015 #186

Most democrats consider themselves socialists Joe Turner Sep 2015 #86

No, most Democrats DO NOT consider themselves socialists. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #87

Yes they do . eom . TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #95

Prove it. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #96

No , the honus is upon you ... TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #116

The initial claim was that most Democrats are socialists. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #121

By definition of policy .... TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #128

By all rules of debate... MohRokTah Sep 2015 #135

Prove it. Joe Turner Sep 2015 #145

I did not make the intial claim. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #146

Ah ...so they have that in common with republicans? Ok ....Bwahahahahaha L0oniX Sep 2015 #101

Have you ever taken a look at Northern European governments? senz Sep 2015 #191

You mean you "can't bring yourself to vote for" a DEMOCRATIC Socialist, don't you? 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #62

Those were MRT's exact words, that's why I corrected him upthread. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #66

Ahh. ok. Thanks. nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #67

He does that all the time, note the capital S in socialist too. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #70

I kind of expected Republicans to hurl the "S-word" as a put-down 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #71

Not a put down. Sanders said, and I quote... revmclaren Sep 2015 #125

No, that is not what he calls himself notadmblnd Sep 2015 #178

WTF? Rockyj Sep 2015 #143

Um, hello? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #144

I'd make some lunch reservations for election day..... Indepatriot Sep 2015 #13

No big loss.. frylock Sep 2015 #37

Do you what you must, Moh... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #40

I'll vote for Sanders in your place. 840high Sep 2015 #47

No, you won't. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #48

Yes I would have voted him 840high Sep 2015 #94

Oh...Come on Dr. West Gave a Great Introduction to Bernie on THE ISSUES KoKo Sep 2015 #74

I have precisely NO respect for West. eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #77

Why? KoKo Sep 2015 #89

NEWS FLASH: uhm ...we don't care. n/t L0oniX Sep 2015 #98

It's all good. I have enough respect for him to cover a dozen people who have Autumn Sep 2015 #102

Me too !!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #106

We got the whole place covered then Autumn Sep 2015 #107

That's cool with me. I think everyone has that right. I know I will sit out the GE if Hillary is liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #154

Hmmmmmm I don't think your "position" was all that flexible to begin with. sibelian Sep 2015 #167

Cue the new anti-Hillary meme: Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #172

I've seen plenty of Sanders supporters say they would not vote for Hillary if she was nominated MohRokTah Sep 2015 #173

Play - doubtfully so. Fair - not at all. Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #174

There are conditions under which I would hold my nose and vote for Sanders. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #175

Which makes you the better person already. Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #176

Based on .... AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #179

Brother West brought it! Indepatriot Sep 2015 #12

Really, wow. azmom Sep 2015 #24

Great introduction video and I'm in the early part of watching Bernie's address. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #14

Well worth the time reading the site and the only Good Snips KoKo Sep 2015 #90

I watched the entire video of Bernie's speech and it was good. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #103

West was awesome, and so was Bernie. azmom Sep 2015 #21

KNR n/t DirkGently Sep 2015 #31

Great Post! Can't Recommmend Enough for the Snips of Bernie & Dr. West...Plus! KoKo Sep 2015 #34

Why Bernie would embrace this racist POS support baffles me. Drunken Irishman Sep 2015 #35

Give me a reference to that racist stuff West flung, Drunken... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #42

I suspect a2liberal Sep 2015 #46

Well, I see nothing to convince me of anything else... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #49

Yep 840high Sep 2015 #50

No, it's of this variety: pnwmom Sep 2015 #150

Mind if I hear that myself? MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #161

Did you miss this? pnwmom Sep 2015 #163

It's not hard to find, MrMickeysMom. pnwmom Sep 2015 #149

How can you come away from viewing this and think that... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #170

You're the one dragging race into this, in standard Clintonian tradition n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #56

Apparently it's a good thing NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #109

So you are one of those white folks that think black people can be "racists". Gotcha. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #140

Cornell West did a Great Job speaking to those Young College Students! KoKo Sep 2015 #36

Well said KoKo! haikugal Sep 2015 #68

Thanks! I thought he did a great job down there in SC...and wasn't "out of touch" KoKo Sep 2015 #93

Me too...and again we agree! haikugal Sep 2015 #100

West will be Bern pastor wright problem for him FloridaBlues Sep 2015 #108

Ditto, KoKo! MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #171

I was led to believe that the Black community despised Cornell West frylock Sep 2015 #39

How ? MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #43

Well, he did level some rather harsh criticism of Obama couched in some pretty strong language.. frylock Sep 2015 #51

That matches what I know, frylock... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #115

He criticizes Obama and expresses his disappointment win him, therefore he hates black people. arcane1 Sep 2015 #73

You got it! L0oniX Sep 2015 #141

make no mistake there some black ppl who despise him Truprogressive85 Sep 2015 #45

Seemed to be a rather enthusiastic crowd there today.. frylock Sep 2015 #52

dr west did great Truprogressive85 Sep 2015 #60

All of those are great ideas n/t frylock Sep 2015 #64

Welcome to DU! Bonobo Sep 2015 #137

Blacks, like any group, are not monolithic in their views. Drunken Irishman Sep 2015 #61

Dude, it is entirely idiotic to say that West's language towards Obama is "racist". Bonobo Sep 2015 #138

So niggerized is a term you'd use at work with little thought of reprocussion?! uponit7771 Sep 2015 #153

No, but calling a leader for black rights a racist Bonobo Sep 2015 #156

wait, so it's ok to use those terms towards a black person as long as the person is black uponit7771 Sep 2015 #157

Yup, it is. Bonobo Sep 2015 #158

I am black, and even if I wasn't it still not acceptable... West is at best condescending & putelant uponit7771 Sep 2015 #159

Plenty of black people disagree with you. Bonobo Sep 2015 #160

I hope some disagree, we're not robots and West is worse... West is not ignorant ...he's an asshole uponit7771 Sep 2015 #162

Cornel's language toward Obama IS racist, and many millions more African Americans pnwmom Sep 2015 #165

His language toward Obama IS racist. Calling Obama "n****ized" is disgusting and racist. n/t pnwmom Sep 2015 #164

Great intro by West Babel_17 Sep 2015 #58

That was great. Thanks for posting those! n/t Catherina Sep 2015 #63

Ladies and Gentlemen... I give you our next President- Bernie Effin' SANDERS!! AzDar Sep 2015 #80

There is a vast difference as far sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #84

Fantastic. Never tire of listening to Bernie. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #85

Bless you, Bernie Sanders, thank you Cornell West and now... japple Sep 2015 #88

I'm on, I donated to the campaign! Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #110

That was great. Paka Sep 2015 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Sep 2015 #148

I would never worry about Dr. West. He gets it as well or better than anyone. nt Zorra Sep 2015 #151

FUCK CORNEL WEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! uponit7771 Sep 2015 #152

You'll need his consent first, else you're a rapist. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #194

I was never worried about West. TM99 Sep 2015 #155

This post was meant to show how loved Bernie is. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #166

Cornel West: Obama A ‘Republican In Blackface’ oberliner Sep 2015 #168

Fantastic! He hit all the issues that matter! tblue Sep 2015 #169