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44. John Conyers is a Detroiter. nt

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"The Ghost of Cornel West" [View all] pnwmom Sep 2015 OP

In 2008, it was Jeremiah Wright. I guess this time it'll be Cornell West, huh? Scootaloo Sep 2015 #1

Did Jeremiah Wright call Obama names like "n****ized President" pnwmom Sep 2015 #3

No, his lines were different Scootaloo Sep 2015 #6

A couple of years ago a huge argument raged here on someone calling the President a piece of sh_t . brush Sep 2015 #78

Interesting that an entire career is so easily thrown away over a single phrase. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #81

Here's a link to refresh your memory brush Sep 2015 #82

Oh, thanks, I've read the links. It doesn't change either point I made. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #90

Would you care to LOOK AT THE LINK. How does on read a video? brush Sep 2015 #92

Apologies, I figured it was a link to the one Pnwmom gave me just below Scootaloo Sep 2015 #95

I'm not a Clinton supporter brush Sep 2015 #101

I decided to try the video in Internet Explorer Scootaloo Sep 2015 #113

Revealing isn't it? haikugal Sep 2015 #153

The group on the video are echoing long-standing feeling in the AA community brush Sep 2015 #178

It wasn't a single phrase or a single incident. Cornel West has repeated insults like this pnwmom Sep 2015 #83

Which nullifies his entire career? Scootaloo Sep 2015 #91

He's nullifying Obama's whole Presidency, reducing Obama to a caricature. pnwmom Sep 2015 #96

Really? Dr. West has nullified Obama's presidency? SUCH POWER! Scootaloo Sep 2015 #100

I haven't committed to any candidate, and I want each of them pnwmom Sep 2015 #111

Ah yes, funny how that works out. (cough) Scootaloo Sep 2015 #115

I think your "point" is an unfair attack on HRC that doesn't deserve a reply. pnwmom Sep 2015 #116

Of course you do. That's exactly my point Scootaloo Sep 2015 #117

You think it's fine for West to attack Obama's whole career but not for pnwmom Sep 2015 #120

I don't think West's words matter one whit. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #129

Apparently you have a habit, like Bush, of only reading the titles of documents pnwmom Sep 2015 #130

My intuition would have avoided a needless war, at least Scootaloo Sep 2015 #132

In the real world it would have accomplished nothing pnwmom Sep 2015 #151

I thought I was the president for your sneery little argument? Scootaloo Sep 2015 #156

This. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #122

Your rebuttals on this thread are brilliant. snagglepuss Sep 2015 #128

I learned long ago to try NOT to be on the receiving side of scootaloo's ire. Bonobo Sep 2015 #134

It's "he" actually Scootaloo Sep 2015 #157

Oh, sorry. Bonobo Sep 2015 #182

Scoot can burn the place down Aerows Sep 2015 #187

Are we talking about West and the potential loss of votes for Bernie . . . brush Sep 2015 #180

Read it and don't care. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #2

Maybe that crowd would look diverse to a Vermonter. Greensboro is 41% black. pnwmom Sep 2015 #4

Counting poc again? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #5

The constant eyeballing for 'race' is becoming chronic, & creepy isn't it. A race fixation clearly. appalachiablue Sep 2015 #14

I think so. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #15

One only needs to have memory of the 2008 primary campaign Scootaloo Sep 2015 #24

Yes all the 'hard-working white people' as one of our candidates stated for instance- appalachiablue Sep 2015 #27

The origins of birtherism... Scootaloo Sep 2015 #41

The many uglies some hypoctrites forget, including the infamous 'Not Good Enough Bernie' on race appalachiablue Sep 2015 #42

This is how the Clintons have run every election. They are old-old-school Democrats n./t arcane1 Sep 2015 #67

"Black" comes in a variety of shades, pwnmom Scootaloo Sep 2015 #7

Tell me, pnwmom... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #10

Hard to find black people in NYC, pnwmom? Bonobo Sep 2015 #12

It looks bigger than an of Hillary's Fawke Em Sep 2015 #17

Hillary isn't the one who's dealing with black voter approval in the low single digits. n/t pnwmom Sep 2015 #26

And you're just here to help Senator Sanders, right? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #32

What is the matter with you Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #21

I am trying very hard to not allow this type of thinking into my mind but ... slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #29

Like this post, murielm99 Sep 2015 #58

Do you even know why that post came about, it was a response to this post ... slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #73

If you want it to stop, murielm99 Sep 2015 #79

Sander's supporters are not posting pics and asking how many blacks are in the crowd ... slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #84

Sorry Muriel, but you need to understand something... Scootaloo Sep 2015 #118

this. LeftOfWest Sep 2015 #119

Word. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #121

Nonsense. murielm99 Sep 2015 #125

Not Good Enough Bernie beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #126

I'm sorry Muriel, but you're not allowed to re-write history. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #131

Damn Scootaloo, you're a kick ass pony! haikugal Sep 2015 #161

Were you appointed to Aerows Sep 2015 #188

This is fantastic, over 9,000 people came out on a Sunday night. But Bernie is doing this appalachiablue Sep 2015 #18

Cornel West and the Fight to Save the Black Prophetic Tradition Bonobo Sep 2015 #8

Kudos to your dedicated work in creating a racial divide. Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #9

Oh, right. I'm "creating a racial divide" though Cornel West has been hating on pnwmom Sep 2015 #31

Cornell West's introduction of Bernie was wonderful. virtualobserver Sep 2015 #46

Amen. That's the crux of it. Americans of all backgrounds across the county are appalachiablue Sep 2015 #149

Absolutely and totally dismissed by the hate mongers on this board. haikugal Sep 2015 #162

Vitriol� MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #52

Calling Obama a bunch of racist tripe isn't doing the same thing?!!?! REALLY?! uponit7771 Sep 2015 #66

The hate for West is odd RobertEarl Sep 2015 #11

They see it only as an attack on Obama and miss the bigger picture. Bonobo Sep 2015 #13

They must hate John Conyers and Joe Madison, too. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #19

Conyers and Madison are terrific. Illinois Rep. Conyers and Bernie have worked on a jobs bill appalachiablue Sep 2015 #22

John Conyers is a Detroiter. nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #44

He is a Michigan Rep., right. appalachiablue Sep 2015 #45

I would be willing to bet that neither one of those men dsc Sep 2015 #25

He doesn't get attacked for railing against oppression of black people. brush Sep 2015 #47

What about this? RobertEarl Sep 2015 #48

and who are they? kwassa Sep 2015 #55

Hacked by Davis and DOMA folk? RobertEarl Sep 2015 #56

Apparently you don't get it brush Sep 2015 #59

You have your opinions RobertEarl Sep 2015 #62

I don't have to do better brush Sep 2015 #74

Cornel West is actually a cool guy RobertEarl Sep 2015 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Sep 2015 #133

no, it is simply showing a poor strategic choice by Bernie. kwassa Sep 2015 #61

See my reply above to brush? RobertEarl Sep 2015 #63

Oh great. They'll all vote for Ben Carson then. n/t pnwmom Sep 2015 #65

In protest! JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #159

So they're the 'wrong' black people then? haikugal Sep 2015 #164

"The Sanders campaign must not have researched this." Scootaloo Sep 2015 #135

What? Why didn't the campaign know of West's baggage? brush Sep 2015 #163

He's been railing against President Obama. That's what people are objecting to. pnwmom Sep 2015 #85

You get the award... MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #16

You know what I'll betcha? Armstead Sep 2015 #20

I agree. So why hasn't Sanders linked up with one of those people instead of Cornel West? pnwmom Sep 2015 #33

I'm sure his campaign is working on it Armstead Sep 2015 #43

LOL stevil Sep 2015 #50

Speaking of linking up, this OP takes a swipe at West about the Inaugural at which Obama linked up Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #184

Why not link up with one that doesn't call black people racist tripe then?! Why link up with one ... uponit7771 Sep 2015 #68

Fer Chrissake, West isn't my cup of tea either but what the fuck does it matter? Armstead Sep 2015 #136

Bookmarked!! Why Doesn't it matter that we should associate with people who call others racist uponit7771 Sep 2015 #138

oooooo....bookmarked Armstead Sep 2015 #141

Yeah, someone asking why does it matter that people shouldn't call other people racist tripe... uponit7771 Sep 2015 #143

Is Jerimiah Wright a valid yardstick to judge President Obama? Armstead Sep 2015 #148

Did right spew racist hatred at people cause he didn't get a ticket to a seat he wanted?! false uponit7771 Sep 2015 #171

your 'why" is gossip virtualobserver Sep 2015 #154

No it's not, link inside "West says Obama ni66gerized the presidency" uponit7771 Sep 2015 #172

sure it is....you've reduced it all to your reaction that one term virtualobserver Sep 2015 #174

Ummm, no... there are many other hateful statements West has said about Obama... this is not just uponit7771 Sep 2015 #176

my point is that he has a right to judge Obama in a way that I don't.... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #177

Why? Well West is a democratic socialist, HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #23

Aren't there any black Democratic socialist leaders who wouldn't call the President pnwmom Sep 2015 #34

Curious, but do you have ANY idea what he even meant by the term? Bonobo Sep 2015 #35

He explained it. And that didn't make it okay, any more than the multitude pnwmom Sep 2015 #37

The thing is it was a description of a socio-cultural phenomena that goes WAY beyond the POTUS. Bonobo Sep 2015 #38

I added to the post while you were answering. pnwmom Sep 2015 #39

As a black person you know how two figures like Obama and West think about the matter? appalachiablue Sep 2015 #40

Do you get paid by the post or something... haikugal Sep 2015 #167

I don't accept humans being called any type of racist tripe, why should we!? uponit7771 Sep 2015 #69

Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.... nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #71

Dodging a questions regarding West racist tripe is what I see a lot of Sander supporters continue uponit7771 Sep 2015 #72

Perhaps West is to Bernie Sanders as Jerimiah Wright was to Obama HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #36

I almost started an OP with that precise thing in mind! You are on to something for sure. Bonobo Sep 2015 #49

It's Clinton Supporters going with the "Angry Black Man" canard. Again. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #51

Maybe. HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #53

Wright called black people petulant racist tripe!?!? Bad analogy uponit7771 Sep 2015 #70

No, because Wright wasn't throwing slurs at the sitting African American President. n/t pnwmom Sep 2015 #88

Wright got dumped in favor of evangelicals who threw slurs at the LGBT community. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #185

West earned my admiration when he got into a pissing contest with Larry Summers at Harvard tularetom Sep 2015 #28

I have never been impressed with Cornel West Gothmog Sep 2015 #30

I have always been impressed with Cornel West. Ron Green Sep 2015 #80

On which issues that West and Obama differ do you prefer Obama's stance? mhatrw Sep 2015 #54

good question. 840high Sep 2015 #57

So which issue would excuse all the name calling? In my mind, none. pnwmom Sep 2015 #64

This isn't about policy issues. It's about treating President Obama with the respect he deserves. pnwmom Sep 2015 #60

You did not answer the question. 840high Sep 2015 #75

Because it's irrelevant. I explained to you that NO policy issue could excuse pnwmom Sep 2015 #77

I like Cornel West and I like President Obama. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #94

Can't Bernie find many progressive black intellectual backers who haven't spent years pnwmom Sep 2015 #97

Why does Hillary Clinton want to share a stage with someone who said this about Gay Marriage? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #104

This isn't about Hillary. Why do you support Bernie Sanders handicapping pnwmom Sep 2015 #105

I think Sanders' judgment has proven to be jussssst fine, so far. His numbers reflect that. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #107

His numbers with the AA community don't reflect that. Unless you like 3% support in S.C. n/t pnwmom Sep 2015 #108

I think he'll be just fine. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #110

He's doing much better than I ever thought he would. pnwmom Sep 2015 #112

That's how I feel about the almost indescribably lame campaign Hillary Clinton has been running. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #114

I agree. In short, pnwmom Sep 2015 #123

His numbers among people of color are abismal and after this they should stay that way uponit7771 Sep 2015 #140

Hey, you forgot to use the phrase "racist tripe" in this post. You're slipping. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2015 #150

West still voted to re-elect Obama jfern Sep 2015 #109

"This isn't about policy issues." Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #87

Do you think Ronald Reagan got elected because voters care primarily about policy issues? pnwmom Sep 2015 #89

Do you really want to risk the election by imagining that it is 1980 and not 2016? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #93

This isn't about Hillary. I wouldn't care about Bernie shooting himself in the foot pnwmom Sep 2015 #98

I think you're overthinking things. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #102

Why do you think West is going to go away before the General? pnwmom Sep 2015 #106

A rock and a hard place as to dropping West now brush Sep 2015 #168

That doesn't make any sense. help me out here. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #124

If Biden comes in that will further reduce Hillary's support and could end up pnwmom Sep 2015 #127

Is Cornel West on a ballot, somewhere? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #86

Funny to see them playing the role of the Repubs in the 2008 Jeremiah Wright scenario. Bonobo Sep 2015 #99

I remember a lot of things about that election cycle, not the least of which, how Hillary ran her Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #103

I think he's RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT according to some people here Armstead Sep 2015 #137

Sanders disconnect with PoC is & this shows it greatly, why associate with a person who calls other uponit7771 Sep 2015 #139

Cornel West on Bernie Sanders, Michael Eric Dyson, Trans Rights, and B.B. King | #GRITtv LWolf Sep 2015 #142

He makes some great points TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #144

He tends to LWolf Sep 2015 #145

I just find his analysis to be fairly sound TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #146

If only Obama hadn't sat him behind Aretha's hat Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #147

The orchestrated talking points for smearing Bernie are transparent and pathetic RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #152

Why is every criticism a smear? Does Bernie have to be the only perfect politician ever? pnwmom Sep 2015 #155

Haha! You don't find calling Dr. West an "Obama hater" to be a smear?? RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #158

Do I think it's a smear to call him an Obama-hater when he's made his feelings pnwmom Sep 2015 #165

We could play semantics from now until the cows come home RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #169

Hopefully we do share one goal. pnwmom Sep 2015 #181

respect = love.. frylock Sep 2015 #189

So you are saying that 1strongblackman and others should have been banned? Jappleseed Sep 2015 #160

1StrongBlackMan would laugh in your face. He's never directed a slur at the President. pnwmom Sep 2015 #166

So it's not about content or verbage. Jappleseed Sep 2015 #170

1StrongBlackMan has never attacked people here by calling pnwmom Sep 2015 #179

I disagree with Obama on at least one issue. randome Sep 2015 #173

Dyson has his own bloviating to account for bigtree Sep 2015 #175

Dyson is something of a gasbag and all of this is faith community bicker and backstab crap. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #183

I'm just wondering when white people Aerows Sep 2015 #186