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65. "...good luck selling those numbers..."

Reply to DanTex (Reply #52)

Tue Sep 15, 2015, 04:47 PM

Sep 2015

I could swear that's almost verbatim from the thread over yonder.

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How to lose a GE: nominate a socialist who proposes $18T in new government spending. [View all] DanTex Sep 2015 OP

LOL !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #1

The op is a right winger surely? Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #121

No... It's More Like This: WillyT Sep 2015 #122

Her we go - Hillary and her Republican colleagues on the attack Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #123

She attacks him from the right AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #139

Oh this should go over well! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #2

Scootch over. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #11

Awesome! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #23

Oh, c'mon dorkzilla! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #27

He says he likes to discuss politics dorkzilla Sep 2015 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author dorkzilla Sep 2015 #32

He thinks that's what he's doing? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #56

Brought some more nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #78

We�re gonna need a bigger bucket! dorkzilla Sep 2015 #80

Well maybe fill in the olympic sized pool nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #81

Please pass me the butter Aerows Sep 2015 #106

I got a blanket too...get comfy nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #109

Red Scare.....again? Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #3

Not sure why people keep talking about "red" anything. DanTex Sep 2015 #4

Because people keep keep try to scare people with the word Socialist. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #6

Well, it's true that a socialist is thoroughly unelectable, but I'm asking about the "red" part. DanTex Sep 2015 #12

No more than saying that Catholics are similar to Anglicans. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #17

Then you need not waste one second of your life discussing him. arcane1 Sep 2015 #19

I like discussing politics. DanTex Sep 2015 #21

Oh, is that was this was all about. arcane1 Sep 2015 #126

Using McCarthyite rhetoric is not "discussing". Ken Burch Sep 2015 #132

not sure virtualobserver Sep 2015 #10

LMFAO Aerows Sep 2015 #108

I love that movie virtualobserver Sep 2015 #110

He's a one trick pony. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #33

How to lose GE. Let the GOP oversee bank charters. ancianita Sep 2015 #5

I agree. Let's play it safe. HassleCat Sep 2015 #7

Rec this too. RiverLover Sep 2015 #102

If that is how to do it, then we don't have any concerns. nt. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #8

If you can't explain the $15 trillion for Medicare for All includes what is paid now on insurance think Sep 2015 #9

Exactly! A clever infographic with some numbers and voters will be magically converted into DanTex Sep 2015 #31

So you don't understand that 10 years of health insurance costs are included in the $15 trillion? think Sep 2015 #49

I do, but good luck selling those numbers to the American electorate. DanTex Sep 2015 #52

"...good luck selling those numbers..." bvf Sep 2015 #65

Bernies biggest mistake so far redstateblues Sep 2015 #84

Most of it is the single payer, and yes, advocating for that is a mistake. DanTex Sep 2015 #87

You've made three OP's declaring your inability to grasp the concept. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #103

So we need the stupid vote? GeorgeGist Sep 2015 #125

Read it and weep. in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #13

The President does not make law, spend upaloopa Sep 2015 #62

That was 2008. Google 'socialist' and look at how many pics of Obama come up. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #14

OP embarrassed themself long ago. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #35

At least he's recycling. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #38

Maybe she's using H1B visas to staff her Internet team? HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #42

That would explain a lot. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #46

"No, Bernie Sanders is not going to bankrupt America to the tune of $18 trillion" Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #15

Thank you Go Vols Sep 2015 #64

How to lose America: continue to let conservatives dominate both parties. Broward Sep 2015 #16

It was in the Wall Street Journal so it must be true, right? n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #18

It doesn't seem hard to explain to me. cyberswede Sep 2015 #20

No one's buying it but the right wingers who aren't Fawke Em Sep 2015 #24

Yeah, I forgot about the magic 50% cost savings. While we're at it, might as well just go ahead DanTex Sep 2015 #28

Not sure why you call it magic. cyberswede Sep 2015 #39

Nobody serious believes that single payer would cut health care spending in half. DanTex Sep 2015 #45

Nobody but Professor Friedman at UMASS cyberswede Sep 2015 #60

That paper estimates $596B in annual savings, which is not 50% of the $3.13T in current DanTex Sep 2015 #61

That figure reflects savings in only part of the total cost cyberswede Sep 2015 #68

That figure is the total estimate of the savings from that study. Around 20%. DanTex Sep 2015 #69

So youre against a 20% savings in health costs? HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #105

Lol! demmiblue Sep 2015 #22

you can work on that lollipop all day restorefreedom Sep 2015 #25

Right wing clap trap from HIll's Shills. morningfog Sep 2015 #26

You're late with the talking point. bvf Sep 2015 #30

If this was 2008 Z_California Sep 2015 #55

Isn't there a rule about posting RW propaganda here? Z_California Sep 2015 #34

I think Hillary Group was grandfathered. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #40

. GoneFishin Sep 2015 #86

Well, at least the right wingers on this board are outing themselves. Broward Sep 2015 #48

Anything negative about Clinton is an impermissible RW meme. Other RW stuff is perfectly OK. Jim Lane Sep 2015 #100

Let's leave it to Democratic Primary voters and not raise the socialism alarm. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2015 #36

So does this mean Hillary has no desire to expand Social Security and Medicare, Vinca Sep 2015 #37

I thought the post was about Bernie saturnsring Sep 2015 #44

It is. If the Clintonites are attacking him on those issues they need to tell us whether Vinca Sep 2015 #73

Really? No, it is an OP by a Hillary supporter who thinks we will all support Hillary if he djean111 Sep 2015 #74

of course DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #41

They aren't telling her what to do... haikugal Sep 2015 #59

Did he say it'll be huge and you're gonna love it saturnsring Sep 2015 #43

My God. Bernie Sanders is being controlled by Angela Lansbury! Prism Sep 2015 #47

You are seriously buying into... ljm2002 Sep 2015 #50

So now we're now taking numbers generated by the WSJ as gospel? bullwinkle428 Sep 2015 #51

Chicken little is that you? azmom Sep 2015 #53

So let's just keep doing the same things we've been doing..... daleanime Sep 2015 #54

which is more despicable Doctor_J Sep 2015 #57

There's a two-for-one special on this today! n/t bvf Sep 2015 #67

Scorched Earth politics from the HRC crew. Z_California Sep 2015 #58

quel surprise elehhhhna Sep 2015 #124

One thing for sure: I'll vote for who I want to be president. David__77 Sep 2015 #63

To be fair, that's 18 trillion before taxes and monies we would have paid for insurance premiums Hoyt Sep 2015 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author jfern Sep 2015 #70

Hillary and her cadre are making faux news look centrist. Jappleseed Sep 2015 #71

Enough of the right-wing bullshit. Ron Green Sep 2015 #72

David Brock should hire you! m-lekktor Sep 2015 #75

Yeah.. that's how I see it also. DCBob Sep 2015 #76

I know of a poliical party that woud be happy for you to join them Armstead Sep 2015 #79

I think you are confused. DCBob Sep 2015 #99

Well that explains your sig line. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #82

To me this OP is a swing and a miss. GitRDun Sep 2015 #77

It's still $18T of new spending (and, yes, that number is pretty accurate, maybe even low). DanTex Sep 2015 #83

Not according to WaPo GitRDun Sep 2015 #91

It is new government spending. Yes, the dollars are being spent now, but not by the government. DanTex Sep 2015 #92

Well, you make WaPo's point GitRDun Sep 2015 #96

Awww, bless your heart...n/t ms liberty Sep 2015 #85

Ahh, how cute. Whining about Bernie. Your fear is showing. nt Logical Sep 2015 #88

You, too? Blue_In_AK Sep 2015 #89

If you want austerity, feel free to vote republican. Doctor_J Sep 2015 #90

O NO Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #93

Well make the 1% pay their fair share, workinclasszero Sep 2015 #94

You forgot the link to Rupert Murdoch's laissez faire toilet paper whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #95

Shrug. Better than going into GE with nominee who voted for IWR. nt Dems to Win Sep 2015 #97

Telling it like it is ... the RW line will be that BS is a draft dodging socialist Persondem Sep 2015 #98

Yes, we hear that RW talking point from Hillary supporters daily. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #107

Perhaps then it's a legitemate concern. Especially since you have NO answer other Persondem Sep 2015 #129

You do know who owns the WSJ, right? HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #130

The "right" numbers still leave a 5 trillion dollar hole in the budget, assuming the benefits Persondem Sep 2015 #131

Nope. Still wrong. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #133

The government is not spending that money. To get that plan paid for Persondem Sep 2015 #134

It is the entire amount spent, govt, business, and private. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #135

Explain to them they won't have to pay $50 copays when they cut their fingers, or $250 for a cavity. Bonobo Sep 2015 #101

Nonsense. It's time to give the American people more ... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Sep 2015 #104

Most voters will not get over the sticker shock Gothmog Sep 2015 #111

The source sited JackInGreen Sep 2015 #112

And yet agrees that there will be $15 trillion in government spending on single payer alone. DanTex Sep 2015 #113

You should JackInGreen Sep 2015 #114

Personal insults. Yes, Bernie fans are big on those. And yet, the $15T number is right there. DanTex Sep 2015 #115

And you can keep reading JackInGreen Sep 2015 #116

The number is right there. What can I say? You can ignore it, but there it is. DanTex Sep 2015 #117

Yep JackInGreen Sep 2015 #118

Happen to mention that the current system will cost us $30 trillion? Net savings of $12 trillion. Fearless Sep 2015 #128

I'm sorry but when did DU turn into a conservative forum again? (nt) LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #119

It's been a while. The Obama bashing has been going on for years. DanTex Sep 2015 #120

Not even changing the wording of the Super PAC script huh? Fearless Sep 2015 #127

He proposes to raise $6 trillion in taxes, don't know where the other $12 trillion will come. Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #136

Thanks for spreading an entirely bogus right wing talking point Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #137

So you are for austerity AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #138