2016 Postmortem

Capn Sunshine

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102. This is a wild ass DU supposition

Thu Sep 17, 2015, 02:07 PM

Sep 2015

I wrote elsewhere how they went south from the very beginning. It was definitely the schism Armstead writes about, and back then the attitude was if you werent from the East coast or inside the beltway, they didn't want to talk to you. This occurred with the Kerry Campaign . They didn't want any of our (Dean Campaign) demographic research or mailing list, and were even dubious about taking our donor list. By2008, this attitude had hardened and like I told you, those of us involved with National level politics recognized Hillary's Campaign was chock full of every loser and Dem Pimp Beltway hanger on that had at least partially contributed to Kerry's loss.

WE were tired of the "lose with grace, honorable opposition" bullshit. To imbue a racist element to her campaign is totally warrantless. Sure , if you went just by Hillary posters on DU, that might have some merit.

But this tiny bubble in cyberspace does not represent anything except DU.

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HRC supporters, help me out here, tell me why i should vote for HRC in the primary [View all] 0rganism Sep 2015 OP

I don't care who you vote for in the primary Frances Sep 2015 #1

ahhhh the daily loyalty pledge restorefreedom Sep 2015 #17

So pointing out the fact ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #32

i never said i would vote for a rep in the ge restorefreedom Sep 2015 #55

When the current Prez Go Vols Sep 2015 #64

How dare you say you will vote Dem in the GE!!!! zappaman Sep 2015 #31

actuallly no youceyec Sep 2015 #106

asking for reasons for things is why we lost 2014! MisterP Sep 2015 #2

I think the silence from HRC supporters is very telling. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Sep 2015 #12

That is truly unfortunate, my dear Agschmid... CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #13

It is what it is... Agschmid Sep 2015 #14

If Hillary Clinton supporters were certain Aerows Sep 2015 #44

Trust me we are heralding it. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #94

Well I'm not posting here hardly at all at this time and that is not the case with me whatsoever ismnotwasm Sep 2015 #98

It's not just Hillary supporters who leave DU you know. I just took a 4 month break from DU liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #100

and that's a bummer 0rganism Sep 2015 #15

just fyi restorefreedom Sep 2015 #18

maybe 0rganism Sep 2015 #21

no reason at all restorefreedom Sep 2015 #53

seems fun to me already 0rganism Sep 2015 #58

its good that people are passionate restorefreedom Sep 2015 #60

DU has always been nasty on both sides. I have taken more than a few voluntary liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #87

The silence from the HRC supporters ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #36

How can you think that I don't go out into the real world? CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #38

If your "solid reasons" ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #61

Think what you like. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #62

I will never... sheshe2 Sep 2015 #74

That was a deeply elitist, arrogant, and dismissive post, Nance. You're better than that. Ken Burch Sep 2015 #65

This. Barky Bark Sep 2015 #75

Do you ever post about anything other than DU and DUers? morningfog Sep 2015 #67

Do you? Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #70

I sure do. morningfog Sep 2015 #71

Peggy is the real deal, especially irl! n/t Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #97

Crickets you say? sheshe2 Sep 2015 #76

My dear sheshe... CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #79

Peg. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #82

OK. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #83

I'm supporting Hillary. hamsterjill Sep 2015 #107

Hillary supporters have been demonized, ganged up on, and driven out taught_me_patience Sep 2015 #4

The poor things.. frylock Sep 2015 #8

Get a load of this exchange Aerows Sep 2015 #22

They know they lose on the issues, so they have to resort to personal attacks of DUers.. frylock Sep 2015 #30

If at first you don't succeed Aerows Sep 2015 #34

In any case, here's an opportunity for them to sell their candidate.. frylock Sep 2015 #37

It's like a case study Aerows Sep 2015 #43

My interpretation of that cancelled event: frylock Sep 2015 #45

....and when she loses the primaries aspirant Sep 2015 #66

i'm sorry you feel that way 0rganism Sep 2015 #9

Why? We don't have time to explain stuff on DU'\. leftofcool Sep 2015 #5

in other words ibegurpard Sep 2015 #6

LOL MoveIt Sep 2015 #7

i'm hoping you're sarcastic 0rganism Sep 2015 #11

There are tons of sites out there that spell out in detail Hillary issues. leftofcool Sep 2015 #27

agreed, i also wanted opinions from pro-HRC DUers 0rganism Sep 2015 #63

When loud Hillary supporters do that to other voters Barky Bark Sep 2015 #23

can I get a frickin clue here ? olddots Sep 2015 #10

"Position statements from Sanders" NCTraveler Sep 2015 #16

thanks for an honest response 0rganism Sep 2015 #19

+1 O'Malley has excellent proposals and very comprehensive. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #20

Why would I want to look in Hillary Clinton group? Barky Bark Sep 2015 #25

Her positions are not hidden in our group leftofcool Sep 2015 #29

We can read, just not comment without banning. aspirant Sep 2015 #68

Uuuuum. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #95

Vermont spends 5 billion on health care. If you can't afford to save more than 100% of expenditures TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #108

+1 Completely agree. n/t FSogol Sep 2015 #56

Because America will not vote for a 75 year old socialist for President philosslayer Sep 2015 #24

Women in NH are disagreeing with you. Barky Bark Sep 2015 #26

so the positives you raise are 0rganism Sep 2015 #28

Bernie Sanders is scaring the crap Aerows Sep 2015 #39

i would say her apparent demise has been overstated 0rganism Sep 2015 #47

In their mind, the only reason she lost was the novelty of a Black President.. frylock Sep 2015 #49

Now that makes sense. hedda_foil Sep 2015 #59

This is a wild ass DU supposition Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #102

Fair enough, since it is a wild ass supposition, of course. We just invented it now, but... hedda_foil Sep 2015 #105

Queen Elizabeth is 89, and only recently slowed down. closeupready Sep 2015 #103

Electability is very important, regardless of how much people dismiss it. DanTex Sep 2015 #33

excellent, thanks! 0rganism Sep 2015 #35

"Electability is very important" Aerows Sep 2015 #40

Of course electability is important. If many Sanders supports weren't basing some of their support seaglass Sep 2015 #99

you look to the msm to find out who to vote for ? JI7 Sep 2015 #41

among other sources, yes 0rganism Sep 2015 #48

I think your mind is already made up. DCBob Sep 2015 #42

So, electability. frylock Sep 2015 #50

my mind is far from made up 0rganism Sep 2015 #51

Hillary is probably the most well known political figure on earth. DCBob Sep 2015 #52

it's not like i haven't paid attention 0rganism Sep 2015 #54

She's evolved a bit but I think she's still a centrist with a focus on women's and children's issue. DCBob Sep 2015 #57

Because resistance is futile. Because $200 million of SuperPac money can't be wrong. reformist2 Sep 2015 #46

Maybe because you want to win the Presidency??? nt kelliekat44 Sep 2015 #69

I have a couple reasons why ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #72

thanks JP 0rganism Sep 2015 #88

How about, because she's a solid mainstream Democrat? brooklynite Sep 2015 #73

Kicking you brooklynite. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #78

Lets see jfern Sep 2015 #80

this is helpful, thanks 0rganism Sep 2015 #89

I'm sorry, Organism, but I have to be honest. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #77

I understand what you are saying but man, a Democratic candidate is 100 times better than akbacchus_BC Sep 2015 #91

Oh absolutely. Especially after watching that vile debate this evening. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #93

Nobody can tell you who to vote for! akbacchus_BC Sep 2015 #81

i can assure you... 0rganism Sep 2015 #84

Thank you for your response and for being so polite. I know the US voters are at a crossroad as to akbacchus_BC Sep 2015 #90

Do your own research. your question is rhetorical anyway. you've already decided. Lil Missy Sep 2015 #85

uh huh, that's why i'm here responding to peoples' posts 0rganism Sep 2015 #86

Don't be so hard on some posters. akbacchus_BC Sep 2015 #92

One of the ohheckyeah Sep 2015 #96

that's a good 'un 0rganism Sep 2015 #101

You're welcome. ohheckyeah Sep 2015 #104