2016 Postmortem

liberal_at_heart

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33. He needs to get with the times. Today social unrest means social media.

Sun Sep 20, 2015, 03:20 PM

Sep 2015

Do you know how I found out about Bernie Sanders? I found about Bernie Sanders from my then 19 year old daughter who said she had read some stuff about Bernie Sanders on Reddit. The Democratic establishment is trying to stifle his campaign by limiting his access to traditional media such as prime time debates, but his message is getting through anyway by social media and by word of mouth. Social media is also seriously challenging Citizens United. Millions of people are donating and funding campaigns now.

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Allan Lichtman:If Bernie Sanders secures the nomination it's bad news for the Democrats [View all] bigdarryl Sep 2015 OP

I hope Bernie gets the nomination and we get to find out if Lichtman's right. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #1

Trust me he is right the only way we win in that senerio is bigdarryl Sep 2015 #4

Trust you? Or we'll "loose"? Ok. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #15

Here we go again. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #62

bwahaha. no. cali Sep 2015 #23

You can't loose but you can lose. JRLeft Sep 2015 #26

Trust YOU? 99Forever Sep 2015 #40

I'd rather trust the people than a random guy I've never heard of Pope Sweet Jesus Sep 2015 #53

Sheesh, people -- that is one guy's opinion (Big Darrel's) gateley Sep 2015 #77

oh no! another "bernie can't deliver" opinion piece! restorefreedom Sep 2015 #2

Yep, they're going to keep singing that song until the convention. reformist2 Sep 2015 #27

^^ this nt artislife Sep 2015 #60

We don't select Presidents by Turning over Key Leaves, Tea Leaves, or the Lady of the Lake. sorechasm Sep 2015 #78

No it's not. LWolf Sep 2015 #3

How do you explain his 100 percent prediction since 1980? yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #5

I don't explain anything about Lichtman, but LWolf Sep 2015 #7

Great points in follow up. Thanks! yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #8

I'm sure Lichtman is redoubtable, but the people are restless Hortensis Sep 2015 #83

He's a historian on the Presidents on there past performances bigdarryl Sep 2015 #13

he's hardly singular in that. cali Sep 2015 #24

Times are different marlakay Sep 2015 #31

Your observation about Trump and Bernie's funding is so interesting! reformist2 Sep 2015 #43

You should read his key system because what your talking about doesn't matter bigdarryl Sep 2015 #6

I think that's exactly what I was referring to. LWolf Sep 2015 #10

very well said. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #34

I love how you come up with your predictions redstateblues Sep 2015 #65

You are partially correct LWolf Sep 2015 #85

of course he didn't mention if Hillary were to be nominated, did he? highprincipleswork Sep 2015 #9

So is he saying Hillary is better? DCBob Sep 2015 #11

the key stuff is just bizarre bull. cali Sep 2015 #19

I disagree. If Bernie Sanders can muster enough support MineralMan Sep 2015 #12

It's about the delegates a candidate has to secure bigdarryl Sep 2015 #17

I have no idea about "keys." MineralMan Sep 2015 #20

Allan came up with a "model" that uses 13 or so "keys" to getting the nomination. reformist2 Sep 2015 #38

Holy shit you're right. I better switch my vote right away. You have shown me the light. liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #14

Hillary would also be in trouble, John Poet Sep 2015 #16

Yep its like for instance 1968 during the democratic party convention bigdarryl Sep 2015 #21

. merrily Sep 2015 #30

McGovern was not the nominee in '68 Roy Ellefson Sep 2015 #42

The only thing that matters is coming to the conclusion that Hillary must be the nominee. merrily Sep 2015 #70

yep Roy Ellefson Sep 2015 #87

wow. what a load of shit. he says that a third party challenge against the dems cali Sep 2015 #18

i can't improve on this. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #35

. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #22

! merrily Sep 2015 #29

lo freakin l! nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #36

! Pope Sweet Jesus Sep 2015 #55

Sorry,but I think that there is sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #25

Social unrest is riots in the streets like in the 1960,s bigdarryl Sep 2015 #32

He needs to get with the times. Today social unrest means social media. liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #33

Terrific that you are willing to learn from your daughter artislife Sep 2015 #63

Bernie has a much better chance of winning the general than does Hillary. merrily Sep 2015 #28

way better. but shhhh its a secret......nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #37

I don't know why it's a secret. I've been posting it for months. merrily Sep 2015 #47

willful ignorance. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #48

Ah, I always forget about that one, given that I am always struggling for more info. merrily Sep 2015 #49

LT ...a wise woman. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #50

And gifted and funny. I adore her. merrily Sep 2015 #51

beltway conventional wisdom experts say no, the all powerful values voter will determine who wins Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #68

In politics, merrily Sep 2015 #69

I'm not what you'd call much of a joiner, but yes. I am supporting Sen. Sanders for the nomination, Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #72

You're welcome. Happy to be on the same side. merrily Sep 2015 #75

EVERYONE has a perfect record predicting presidential races... cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #39

That's why if you come up with a "system," people think you have an edge, lol. reformist2 Sep 2015 #66

This is a very different election Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #41

they say that just about every election cycle unblock Sep 2015 #59

Lichtman is an interesting scholar Gothmog Sep 2015 #44

Yes Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #46

His key system is a joke jfern Sep 2015 #45

When you come up with a "model", no matter how hokey, you gain credibility. ;) reformist2 Sep 2015 #52

his model isn't designed to determine closeness. unblock Sep 2015 #61

If it was any good, it would be close for the close calls jfern Sep 2015 #64

that may be your intuition, but it simply doesn't apply to this sort of model. unblock Sep 2015 #79

The incumbent advantage is huge, so the 8 key bit is very conservative. merrily Sep 2015 #73

U need someone to tell u a socialist cant win any southern or midwestern states? GusFring Sep 2015 #54

That's neither common nor knowledge. merrily Sep 2015 #71

Bernie Sanders is not Barack Obama. You guys are going to mess around GusFring Sep 2015 #80

Neither is Hillary. And? merrily Sep 2015 #82

Obama ALREADY has TWO major foreign policy wins: Iran and Cuba. Especially Iran. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #56

Yeah that's the only thing I disagree with Lichtman on bigdarryl Sep 2015 #84

Sanders will not mount a third party challenge. He will support the Dem nominee. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #57

the basic idea is if the country is in a mood for a change, the white house switches parties. unblock Sep 2015 #58

well if Allan Lichtman says so, I guess that means now we know how Allan Lichtman feels about it. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #67

Political scientist, extraordinaire, whose unquestioned model shall go unquestioned. reformist2 Sep 2015 #74

Was he saying Bernie would be gone in a week and Trump wouldn't last gateley Sep 2015 #76

Sanders would do well in the general HassleCat Sep 2015 #81

Bad keys? GeorgeGist Sep 2015 #86

I disagree with him on key 7 in fact I'm goting to e-mail him as to why he's not giving that key to bigdarryl Sep 2015 #88

Interesting emsimon33 Sep 2015 #89

I'll match my socialist against their psychopath any day of the week. Next. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #90