2016 Postmortem

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210. No you tried to hide me 7-0 , ANALYZE THAT.

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It is unlikely that either Sanders or Trump will win the nominations. [View all] RBInMaine Sep 2015 OP

The Kochs and the GOP donor class are against Trump Gothmog Sep 2015 #1

His ploy is to hand of to Jeb, and be thought of lovingly by Republicans, and that's all it ever was orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #4

He can't hand his votes to Jeb. former9thward Sep 2015 #190

The long arm of the 1% has no boundries, his supporters are Republicans and will turn on a dime, He orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #191

A non answer. former9thward Sep 2015 #193

Non-Question and your Opinion is limited . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #198

Yup. Silver agrees that neither Sanders nor Trump will be nominated, and I agree for many of the RBInMaine Sep 2015 #5

link to evidence for that claim? cali Sep 2015 #13

Nate thinks Jeb will take it? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2015 #61

Just keep thinking in the Box, and the TPP will hold the next elections at McDonald's. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #2

I asked for thoughtful analysis, not nonsense. Either offer substance or please stay away. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #3

People like yourself should stop with the K-Street shit and connect the dots, and start having some orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #6

Your posts are thoughtless shouts and rants, not analyses. Zero substance. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #12

Pot meet kettle.. DemByDefault Sep 2015 #55

Not so. OP gave some reasons treestar Sep 2015 #162

Yeah, your post is a good example. BeanMusical Sep 2015 #169

So the OP berates them with nonsense AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #184

The OP gave some reasons treestar Sep 2015 #185

You should take your own advise AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #183

Well, the OP did not cite any probablilities or polls, just the Op's own pronouncements. merrily Sep 2015 #16

Thank's,,Talk about police state in the name of Democracy . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #21

I am thankful for Bernie. If he does not get the nom he will have brought up LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #79

Yeah, apparently when the OP... Blus4u Sep 2015 #80

Here are some resources... PosterChild Sep 2015 #91

It feels really familiar, too artislife Sep 2015 #124

Yes, it's been since May at least. The earliest flurry I saw prompted me to post this merrily Sep 2015 #141

All good points, if you don't mind the " Thoughtless Ranting " . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #203

Jury Results !!! cui bono Sep 2015 #194

7-0. NO BUTTON PRIVILEGES FOR YOU! Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #196

I almost got the wrath of the Soup Nazi!!! cui bono Sep 2015 #199

Thank You !!!! It does the heart good. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #207

you can make all the inane demands you want. no one has to listen to you cali Sep 2015 #10

I would like substantive comments. Do you have anything at all to offer, or just shouting? RBInMaine Sep 2015 #15

why don't you respond my substantive post? the thread is short. cali Sep 2015 #20

You're way too generous, more of a pft. And I think that's too "substantive". marble falls Sep 2015 #67

+1 BeanMusical Sep 2015 #93

1-6 to LEAVE IT cali Autumn Sep 2015 #109

Teh evil Bernie alert stalkers silencing again. Puglover Sep 2015 #189

Well one just silenced themselves, or rather, their alerts, above. cui bono Sep 2015 #195

jaysus. my unfan club is really something. cali Sep 2015 #208

Even when we have disagreed I have never alerted on you. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #212

Perfect response to this piffle MoveIt Sep 2015 #122

+1000. Puglover Sep 2015 #188

And you cali Sep 2015 #209

Agreeing would cure that, Ha ? orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #23

Totally agree. BeanMusical Sep 2015 #90

Authoritarian much? You get to post the OP. Everyone else gets to reply as they wish, as merrily Sep 2015 #11

Bernie Sanders wants substance, not just rants and raves. I am emulating Sanders. Is that ok? RBInMaine Sep 2015 #18

You're speaking for Sanders now? And you imagine you are emulating him? LMAO. merrily Sep 2015 #22

I am asking for substance around explaining how Sanders can win. Bernie wants substantive RBInMaine Sep 2015 #39

I replied to that twice already. No one owes you more substance than appeared in your OP, namely 0. merrily Sep 2015 #43

The gen-X'ers and Millers that put Obama in office (twice) and will vote for Sanders Volaris Sep 2015 #77

the OP is basically about why Sanders won't get the nomination treestar Sep 2015 #164

Now your Morphing like Hillary, " I'm Bernie Sanders " , it never stops with" YOU " people . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #25

No, no, no, no . Hillary is more liberal than Sanders. merrily Sep 2015 #46

As far as I can see, you are emulating a butthead Trajan Sep 2015 #119

A half a click from my IGNORE also, I agree . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #180

"Bernie Sanders wants substance" R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #213

You don't get to control threads. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #96

Well said. BeanMusical Sep 2015 #103

I laugh . . . Springslips Sep 2015 #101

I second that laugh. BeanMusical Sep 2015 #107

You want substance ? fucking ay did you even read your OP? MoveIt Sep 2015 #126

Saying "we all know a self-avowed Socialist cannot win" is not thoughtful or reasonable. highprincipleswork Sep 2015 #168

Thoughtful analysis highprincipleswork Sep 2015 #170

No you tried to hide me 7-0 , ANALYZE THAT. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #210

It's Hillaryous how the desperate class R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #206

It goes like this Android3.14 Sep 2015 #7

I don't see "doom and gloom" and never said anything to indicate that. Otherwise, THANKS for a RBInMaine Sep 2015 #26

As I feared, your request was disengenuous Android3.14 Sep 2015 #32

of course it was ibegurpard Sep 2015 #134

Eric Cantor lead greatly in funding (5.6M v. 206K) and was up by double-digits in the polls. SMC22307 Sep 2015 #148

+ 1000 for Courage and Vision !!!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #28

Some are inspired, but many more... PosterChild Sep 2015 #106

Suuuure, that's what's happenning Android3.14 Sep 2015 #156

You are right, that isn't what is happening, it's what . ... PosterChild Sep 2015 #161

Dead ends dont flip polls from one month to the next.. Android3.14 Sep 2015 #174

you're right. I just wish I could back Hillary. it's not for lack of trying. cali Sep 2015 #8

Thanks. That's some appreciated substance, but I think you are too stuck on the negatives. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #31

A " Life Time " when she was working for Barry Goldwater ? Do yourself a favor study history, before orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #42

Iraq killed and harmed women and children. so did Libya. And she's for sending cali Sep 2015 #45

History is full of unexpected results. We won't achieve them if we never try. Give Bernie a chance. reformist2 Sep 2015 #56

You forgot her most craven, opportunistic, politically expedient act. Fuddnik Sep 2015 #57

Sanders has a better chance of winning the general than Hillary and I will prove that the exact merrily Sep 2015 #9

The only negative thing said publicly about Bernie are from Hillary supporters, I believe there are orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #17

And thanks to Citizens United, Hillary gets to raise as much dark money as she wants & smear Sanders merrily Sep 2015 #24

Both sides of the fence is her Forte, always befriending the other side, look at how she dealt with orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #44

Please offer some explanation of HOW a "socialist" can win the American general election. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #33

First, please offer some explanation of why a Democratic Socialist cannot win. merrily Sep 2015 #35

Have you ever thought about changing your DU name? :) I do not think Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2015 #71

I interpret your response as being in favor of the red baiting of Sanders MoveIt Sep 2015 #136

Point taken - should not have omitted "democrat" Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2015 #147

I think the only way Bernie could have a decent chance to win is by Trump being the GOP nominee. DCBob Sep 2015 #14

And the reasons she is in your view ? orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #19

Here are a few off the top of my head.. DCBob Sep 2015 #29

Not a socialist - exactly! (nt) PosterChild Sep 2015 #108

That's not what match up polls show, even though Bernie is a relative unknown. merrily Sep 2015 #27

Not really.. DCBob Sep 2015 #38

LOL, she loses by somewhat less than a man who, prior to June had almost no name recognition, when merrily Sep 2015 #118

I agree. A self described "socialist" can not win the American general election. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #34

Calling himself a socialist is just one of his many problems. DCBob Sep 2015 #47

Given the "political realities" you refer to rogerashton Sep 2015 #30

Pathetic but true, all good points, I will continue to do all I can for what you aptly put a orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #40

Great thoughtful post. MANY thanks. Here is what I would say: RBInMaine Sep 2015 #50

On the balance of the probabilities as of now, rogerashton Sep 2015 #73

I don't see Hillary repudiating Bernie's supporters nor Bernie repudiating hers DFW Sep 2015 #130

We don't disagree, but rogerashton Sep 2015 #179

There is a simple way of addressing that DFW Sep 2015 #187

How does that get her off being accused of socialism if we Berniacs support her? rogerashton Sep 2015 #200

All you need for that is a "D" DFW Sep 2015 #205

Hillary cannot win in the general. The more people see her, the less they like or trust her peacebird Sep 2015 #110

a lot of this makes sense restorefreedom Sep 2015 #69

Do some research. democrank Sep 2015 #36

Enthusiasm RiverLover Sep 2015 #37

Yep. Enthusiasm = electability. There is no substitute. reformist2 Sep 2015 #41

John Kerry knows this, too. RiverLover Sep 2015 #48

And of course the rallying cry back then was ELECTABILITY! frylock Sep 2015 #175

A big chunk of our base is not enthused by Bernie. DCBob Sep 2015 #83

Well, that's what you guys keep trying to tell us... RiverLover Sep 2015 #98

That's nice but it isnt registering in the polls yet. DCBob Sep 2015 #102

MSM is incapable of telling the truth, Why trust their polls ? orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #204

If I might express My Opinion, imthevicar Sep 2015 #49

Hillary Clinton will not win the GE if she recieves the nomination. smiley Sep 2015 #51

I'm with Ron Reagan. I don't think Trump is running to be President. Skwmom Sep 2015 #52

I think he is now Cosmocat Sep 2015 #62

Agree. I think he started off for publicity, but his bigoted immigrant comments got Hoyt Sep 2015 #149

If I remember Herman Cain had the lead in 2012 for awhile. He and Trump Hoyt Sep 2015 #151

He's held up longer than Cain did Cosmocat Sep 2015 #217

The socialism thing is way overblown. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #53

What would Donald Trump do which would be a big deal to moneyed interests? Eric J in MN Sep 2015 #89

Trump is unpredictable. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #111

Here's why Sanders can win the general thesquanderer Sep 2015 #54

Agreed. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #59

It could happen StoneCarver Sep 2015 #58

Obama vs. Sanders Garrett78 Sep 2015 #65

Rock star? freedom fighter jh Sep 2015 #75

Yes, rock star. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #82

Again -- your crystal ball? freedom fighter jh Sep 2015 #85

Again, yes, some will vote for him for that reason. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #113

Bernie is building an infrastructure to rival Hillary's. freedom fighter jh Sep 2015 #138

the voters are always ticked off treestar Sep 2015 #166

100% disagree on Jeb. There would have to be something Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2015 #60

Agree and disagree Cosmocat Sep 2015 #64

Well the post-debate poll just came out and Bush did not rise. Are Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2015 #76

Replace "socialist " with "African American" corkhead Sep 2015 #63

Even if it is still a dirty word in the minds of the ignorant... Garrett78 Sep 2015 #72

Bernie the socialist has as much chance as a black man or a women winning. tecelote Sep 2015 #66

You provide no hard facts in your opinion fasttense Sep 2015 #68

You're asking for thoughtful and detailed analysis for the position you are against. freedom fighter jh Sep 2015 #70

Hey, "we all know" it Shrek Sep 2015 #78

Yup. nt freedom fighter jh Sep 2015 #139

"a self described "socialist" can not win the general election" left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #74

i think bernie can win because he can bring in many new/sporadic voters. mopinko Sep 2015 #81

A lot of the candidates face Never Befores Eric J in MN Sep 2015 #84

I stopped reading at 99Forever Sep 2015 #86

Any time I see JackInGreen Sep 2015 #87

After 30 Years of Austerity Socialism is No Longer a Dirty Word McKim Sep 2015 #88

The only word that polls better... PosterChild Sep 2015 #95

We all know that a self described "Catholic" can not win the general election. Until JFK. We all Attorney in Texas Sep 2015 #92

This, exactly. noamnety Sep 2015 #100

In 1958 67% of Americans said they would vote for... PosterChild Sep 2015 #117

How long did it take for the tide to turn on gay marriage? Attorney in Texas Sep 2015 #121

Two questions . ... PosterChild Sep 2015 #135

A Socialist won the presidency in 1932, 1936, 1940, and 1944. As to your two questions: Attorney in Texas Sep 2015 #144

By my count four socialists ran for president in 1932... PosterChild Sep 2015 #150

Big difference treestar Sep 2015 #186

Nice flame-bait. BeanMusical Sep 2015 #94

Since we are discussing electoral politics , and... PosterChild Sep 2015 #97

This OP is flame-bait. And obvious. BeanMusical Sep 2015 #114

I disagree. It's a legitimate and important question . ... PosterChild Sep 2015 #123

So very wrong ibegurpard Sep 2015 #140

The problem is not proving electability . ... PosterChild Sep 2015 #145

Yeah, sure, I'm the one missing the point! BeanMusical Sep 2015 #160

OK, Good luck with that. (nt) PosterChild Sep 2015 #163

You're cracking me up! BeanMusical Sep 2015 #167

the word socialist retrowire Sep 2015 #99

Actually , it polls worse than "athiest".... PosterChild Sep 2015 #112

i highly disagree with polls retrowire Sep 2015 #116

The resources to.... PosterChild Sep 2015 #128

as an atheist retrowire Sep 2015 #133

You've got it fundimentaly wrong.... PosterChild Sep 2015 #143

fundamentally RiverLover Sep 2015 #154

Bernie said it himself... 56miSSie Sep 2015 #104

I agree, though I think Trump has a better chance than Bernie. DanTex Sep 2015 #105

We need Bernies voice in all debates and on medias. Sunlei Sep 2015 #115

Vote for him MoveIt Sep 2015 #120

there are all sorts of factors/variables, some hidden, some not stupidicus Sep 2015 #125

Thoughtful and detailed analyses please. Triana Sep 2015 #127

"everyone knows" ibegurpard Sep 2015 #137

Most Americans agree with Bernie on the issues wilsonbooks Sep 2015 #129

Hmm. My April 23 post on polls was well ahead of politicususa's June article merrily Sep 2015 #146

Looks like they may have "borrowed" your ideas. wilsonbooks Sep 2015 #158

I'm so glad! merrily Sep 2015 #172

Unlikely? ibegurpard Sep 2015 #131

You don't sound right artislife Sep 2015 #132

Clinton wont get the nomination, despite this brave brave post MoveIt Sep 2015 #142

The OP tripped on one phrase: "we all know" DFW Sep 2015 #152

One question is whether Sanders LOSES any votes because of the "socialist" label Jim Lane Sep 2015 #153

A thoughtful, intelligent analysis, Jim Lane! RiverLover Sep 2015 #211

Because all these corporate owned candidates have worked out onecaliberal Sep 2015 #155

Ever More Attacks On Bernie cantbeserious Sep 2015 #157

A soicialist can win by having good ideas that the American public wants. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #159

But but, "we all know"!1!! BeanMusical Sep 2015 #165

"We all know" is LWolf Sep 2015 #171

Considering that half the potential electorate has been so ignored that they haven't bothered ... Scuba Sep 2015 #173

We will have to let the votes be counted. CentralMass Sep 2015 #176

In 2007 we all knew that an African American could not SheilaT Sep 2015 #177

I don't think a dem will win in 16 gwheezie Sep 2015 #178

I fully expected to hear that from the Republicans. bvar22 Sep 2015 #201

I am over 60 and know what a democrat is gwheezie Sep 2015 #214

I don't care that they were "tough bastards" or "heaveyweights". bvar22 Sep 2015 #218

ticket enid602 Sep 2015 #181

Well vadermike Sep 2015 #182

then why bother with GD-P at all? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #192

You start off with a false claim. cui bono Sep 2015 #197

I do not know that "a self described 'socialist' can not win the general election." David__77 Sep 2015 #202

Completely and enthusiastically unrecommended. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #215

I think Hillary Clinton should be ashamed as well davidpdx Sep 2015 #216