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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Page 7 New CNN poll ..NOBODY POLLED UNDER 50yrs Old [View all]Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)164. Yep you know they are going to look at it because they want credit card #'s. nt
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It was of REGISTERED Democrats, and what it means is that Bernie supporters had better register to
still_one
Sep 2015
#119
We laugh as we register new voters, we laugh as we get voters to sign petitions to get Bernie on
peacebird
Sep 2015
#124
Well, this poll indicates that there were NOT a significant number of REGISTERED Bernie supporters
still_one
Sep 2015
#131
Possible, or it can indicate that people under 50 are not registered to vote in meaningful numbers
still_one
Sep 2015
#207
I've been dumped over age and other criteria. They polled for what they wanted
roguevalley
Sep 2015
#218
No. You were screened out because they had already interviewed enough people like you.
Gormy Cuss
Sep 2015
#276
Then tell DWS she should have scheduled the first debate earlier than she did.
merrily
Sep 2015
#128
That is a different issue. The respective campaigns should be working to register as many voters as
still_one
Sep 2015
#134
Very related issues. She's depressing the vote, esp among Bernie's demographics.
merrily
Sep 2015
#141
No offense, but if that is the case it sure represents a shallowness and lack of maturity in the
still_one
Sep 2015
#144
No offense, but when the chair of the DNC suppresses the people's right to hear all candidates
sabrina 1
Sep 2015
#245
True. The poll indicates that there are not enough registered voters under 50. I read that as
still_one
Sep 2015
#171
dems should always be registering peops to vote ,that much is true
questionseverything
Sep 2015
#174
So many things about this season have been rigged against Bernie, it's disgusting.
merrily
Sep 2015
#132
Yep you know they are going to look at it because they want credit card #'s. nt
Snotcicles
Sep 2015
#164
It looks like they did interview people of all ages, not sure where the data is though.
MADem
Sep 2015
#18
In this situation it means that reporting the data sliced that finely would be irresponsible
Gormy Cuss
Sep 2015
#275
1006 were asked about Obama. Only 392 Democrats & Leaners were polled about Democratic nomination
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#233
I think you are trying to back into the sample size in a way that may not be right.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#269
Mine is also simple math and has the advantage of going by what they said they did.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#271
One poster is claiming that they were polled, but were under a very small error range.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Sep 2015
#51
They polled people under fifty. The sample was just too small to be broken out.
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2015
#28
What is the difference for practical application? The distinction seems to make no difference.
TheKentuckian
Sep 2015
#267
Guilty as charged. Is it a moral offense now to have a landline? Do I live an inferior lifestyle?
WinkyDink
Sep 2015
#57
not a moral offense to have a landline. Just shows how narrow the sampling is. That's all.
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#60
The point is that a larger percentage of the younger population do not have land lines
virtualobserver
Sep 2015
#85
Yes, there are lots of surprised people when actual voting results don't match polling.
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#118
No it is not okay to leave groups of people out of polls. I am 39 and don't have a landline.
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#116
Let's throw out that poll and use the other polls of recent vintage:
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2015
#83
If we could resurrect Elisabeth Kübler-Ross she would say some folks are still in the Denial Stage.
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2015
#47
Has anyone declared "victory or defeat" based on this poll or any other single poll??
DCBob
Sep 2015
#105
oh, so every other group just happened to have a sampling error larger than
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#53
Nope, not fishy. Common issue with polls when a small sample size is broken down further. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#235
Yes , they were, which is why all the overall results for Hillary were LOWER than the
pnwmom
Sep 2015
#228
I am probably the most literal person on this board and the person's whose real life persona...
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2015
#104
"Some subgroups represent too small a share of the national population to produce crosstabs
think
Sep 2015
#72
I once was on a sports board and a poster wrote that Shaquille O'Neal ...
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2015
#92
This is a poll of registered Democratic voters. It is pointing out that in this sampling there were
still_one
Sep 2015
#127
The poll was of REGISTERED Democratic voters, and what it implies is that Sander's supporters have
still_one
Sep 2015
#122
The key word is REGISTERED Democrats. Those who are not registered were not included in that series
still_one
Sep 2015
#117
The question regarding the Democratic candidates involved only registered Democratic voters
still_one
Sep 2015
#135
There is no way to rationalize leaving out millions of people in a poll.
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#138
Why was the error rate so high? How many people over 50 did they poll versus people under 50?
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#143
Do you actually believe any pollster would conduct a poll leaving out half the population??
DCBob
Sep 2015
#150
This thread is a good argument for mandatory college-level statistics courses.
NuclearDem
Sep 2015
#142
What it's a good argument for is that political operatives trying to skew results are going to be
sabrina 1
Sep 2015
#247
On page 6 of that PDF it shows a breakdown by age, starting with the 18-34 range.
drm604
Sep 2015
#154
technically the op is wrong but a sample of 21 or 22 voters for the under 50 set is worthless
questionseverything
Sep 2015
#163
They polled between 90 and 114 Democrats/Democratic leaners under 50
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2015
#159
no time now but can we agree on the whole numbers the poll produced?
questionseverything
Sep 2015
#217
If you want - those numbers have nothing to do with how many under 50s were polled
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2015
#219
looks like if Joe Biden became VP for Senator Sanders, that 'team' could win the primary
Sunlei
Sep 2015
#160
BREAKING: "9 out of 10 Hillary Clinton supporters, support Hillary Clinton!"
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#166
exactly. If they want to poll a certain demographic then say so. Don't make it sound like
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#170
if they only polled a couple dozen in one group and a couple hundred in another group then yes
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#176
You were making a point about Bernie supporters complaining about that poll and not another.
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#182
It is either a conspiracy or the entire polling system is screwed which is probably true which means
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#185
I have to admit I do not know why they were not able to poll enough under 50 respondents..
DCBob
Sep 2015
#187
Older people are more likely to be registered to vote. Young people can change the situation
pnwmom
Sep 2015
#229
Yes. CNN should be held to account for their shoddy methodology and presentation.
senz
Sep 2015
#195
Well they screwed up here. As I said, it's either methodology or presentation or both.
senz
Sep 2015
#199
"sample includes 606 interviews among landline respondents and 400 interviews among cell phone"
Bucky
Sep 2015
#188
Page 8 - Hmm, no Republicans, nor anyone from the Northeast, Midwest, South, or West either
progree
Sep 2015
#231
Yep, OP didn't read what they linked to and made wild conspiratorial assumptions instead. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#240
Well, sadly, that's standard DU. The really aggravating part is OP's refusal to fix the OP
progree
Sep 2015
#246
That's the crosstab that should be a giant clue that "N/A" doesn't mean nobody interviewed.
Gormy Cuss
Sep 2015
#278