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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Page 7 New CNN poll ..NOBODY POLLED UNDER 50yrs Old [View all]DCBob
(24,689 posts)181. I think you have that correct..
Then they adjusted (weighted) the data to reflect the real world.. Here's the statement from the methodology..
"All respondents were asked questions concerning basic demographics, and the entire sample was weighted to
reflect national Census figures for gender, race, age, education, region of country, and telephone usage."
This is normal survey science.
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It was of REGISTERED Democrats, and what it means is that Bernie supporters had better register to
still_one
Sep 2015
#119
We laugh as we register new voters, we laugh as we get voters to sign petitions to get Bernie on
peacebird
Sep 2015
#124
Well, this poll indicates that there were NOT a significant number of REGISTERED Bernie supporters
still_one
Sep 2015
#131
Possible, or it can indicate that people under 50 are not registered to vote in meaningful numbers
still_one
Sep 2015
#207
I've been dumped over age and other criteria. They polled for what they wanted
roguevalley
Sep 2015
#218
No. You were screened out because they had already interviewed enough people like you.
Gormy Cuss
Sep 2015
#276
Then tell DWS she should have scheduled the first debate earlier than she did.
merrily
Sep 2015
#128
That is a different issue. The respective campaigns should be working to register as many voters as
still_one
Sep 2015
#134
Very related issues. She's depressing the vote, esp among Bernie's demographics.
merrily
Sep 2015
#141
No offense, but if that is the case it sure represents a shallowness and lack of maturity in the
still_one
Sep 2015
#144
No offense, but when the chair of the DNC suppresses the people's right to hear all candidates
sabrina 1
Sep 2015
#245
True. The poll indicates that there are not enough registered voters under 50. I read that as
still_one
Sep 2015
#171
dems should always be registering peops to vote ,that much is true
questionseverything
Sep 2015
#174
So many things about this season have been rigged against Bernie, it's disgusting.
merrily
Sep 2015
#132
Yep you know they are going to look at it because they want credit card #'s. nt
Snotcicles
Sep 2015
#164
It looks like they did interview people of all ages, not sure where the data is though.
MADem
Sep 2015
#18
In this situation it means that reporting the data sliced that finely would be irresponsible
Gormy Cuss
Sep 2015
#275
1006 were asked about Obama. Only 392 Democrats & Leaners were polled about Democratic nomination
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#233
I think you are trying to back into the sample size in a way that may not be right.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#269
Mine is also simple math and has the advantage of going by what they said they did.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#271
One poster is claiming that they were polled, but were under a very small error range.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Sep 2015
#51
They polled people under fifty. The sample was just too small to be broken out.
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2015
#28
What is the difference for practical application? The distinction seems to make no difference.
TheKentuckian
Sep 2015
#267
Guilty as charged. Is it a moral offense now to have a landline? Do I live an inferior lifestyle?
WinkyDink
Sep 2015
#57
not a moral offense to have a landline. Just shows how narrow the sampling is. That's all.
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#60
The point is that a larger percentage of the younger population do not have land lines
virtualobserver
Sep 2015
#85
Yes, there are lots of surprised people when actual voting results don't match polling.
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#118
No it is not okay to leave groups of people out of polls. I am 39 and don't have a landline.
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#116
Let's throw out that poll and use the other polls of recent vintage:
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2015
#83
If we could resurrect Elisabeth Kübler-Ross she would say some folks are still in the Denial Stage.
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2015
#47
Has anyone declared "victory or defeat" based on this poll or any other single poll??
DCBob
Sep 2015
#105
oh, so every other group just happened to have a sampling error larger than
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#53
Nope, not fishy. Common issue with polls when a small sample size is broken down further. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#235
Yes , they were, which is why all the overall results for Hillary were LOWER than the
pnwmom
Sep 2015
#228
I am probably the most literal person on this board and the person's whose real life persona...
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2015
#104
"Some subgroups represent too small a share of the national population to produce crosstabs
think
Sep 2015
#72
I once was on a sports board and a poster wrote that Shaquille O'Neal ...
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2015
#92
This is a poll of registered Democratic voters. It is pointing out that in this sampling there were
still_one
Sep 2015
#127
The poll was of REGISTERED Democratic voters, and what it implies is that Sander's supporters have
still_one
Sep 2015
#122
The key word is REGISTERED Democrats. Those who are not registered were not included in that series
still_one
Sep 2015
#117
The question regarding the Democratic candidates involved only registered Democratic voters
still_one
Sep 2015
#135
There is no way to rationalize leaving out millions of people in a poll.
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#138
Why was the error rate so high? How many people over 50 did they poll versus people under 50?
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#143
Do you actually believe any pollster would conduct a poll leaving out half the population??
DCBob
Sep 2015
#150
This thread is a good argument for mandatory college-level statistics courses.
NuclearDem
Sep 2015
#142
What it's a good argument for is that political operatives trying to skew results are going to be
sabrina 1
Sep 2015
#247
On page 6 of that PDF it shows a breakdown by age, starting with the 18-34 range.
drm604
Sep 2015
#154
technically the op is wrong but a sample of 21 or 22 voters for the under 50 set is worthless
questionseverything
Sep 2015
#163
They polled between 90 and 114 Democrats/Democratic leaners under 50
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2015
#159
no time now but can we agree on the whole numbers the poll produced?
questionseverything
Sep 2015
#217
If you want - those numbers have nothing to do with how many under 50s were polled
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2015
#219
looks like if Joe Biden became VP for Senator Sanders, that 'team' could win the primary
Sunlei
Sep 2015
#160
BREAKING: "9 out of 10 Hillary Clinton supporters, support Hillary Clinton!"
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#166
exactly. If they want to poll a certain demographic then say so. Don't make it sound like
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#170
if they only polled a couple dozen in one group and a couple hundred in another group then yes
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#176
You were making a point about Bernie supporters complaining about that poll and not another.
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#182
It is either a conspiracy or the entire polling system is screwed which is probably true which means
liberal_at_heart
Sep 2015
#185
I have to admit I do not know why they were not able to poll enough under 50 respondents..
DCBob
Sep 2015
#187
Older people are more likely to be registered to vote. Young people can change the situation
pnwmom
Sep 2015
#229
Yes. CNN should be held to account for their shoddy methodology and presentation.
senz
Sep 2015
#195
Well they screwed up here. As I said, it's either methodology or presentation or both.
senz
Sep 2015
#199
"sample includes 606 interviews among landline respondents and 400 interviews among cell phone"
Bucky
Sep 2015
#188
Page 8 - Hmm, no Republicans, nor anyone from the Northeast, Midwest, South, or West either
progree
Sep 2015
#231
Yep, OP didn't read what they linked to and made wild conspiratorial assumptions instead. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#240
Well, sadly, that's standard DU. The really aggravating part is OP's refusal to fix the OP
progree
Sep 2015
#246
That's the crosstab that should be a giant clue that "N/A" doesn't mean nobody interviewed.
Gormy Cuss
Sep 2015
#278