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60. It's not "voters" who raise these "concerns," it's Bernie's opposition.

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 10:53 AM

Sep 2015

Bernie is fine on guns. He got a D minus from the NRA. He believes in state control over guns because each state is different. The problem with the Brady bill was that it put control at the federal level. His is a hunting, target-shooting state and he respects the rights of citizens, so it would be authoritarian and undemocratic of him to support laws that disrupt the lives of law-abiding Vermont citizens. States with dense urban populations and gun violence problems can pass stricter laws to meet their needs.

Bernie is on record as supporting sensible gun control: elimination of assault rifles and strict background checks on every gun purchase.

Apparently the astroturf BLM attack on Bernie fizzled out (because his record is stellar on poc issues) so now his failing opposition is trying the gun angle.

This too will fizzle out. Then they'll try something else.

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Voters Raise Concerns About Bernie Sanders� Record On Guns [View all] big_dog Sep 2015 OP

Snore AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #1

K & R Koinos Sep 2015 #2

What is it, the third time around? Brock Kentman Sep 2015 #3

4 or 5 Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #6

Recycling: It's not just for trash!! (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #19

l.o.l. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #25

That would be the same type of recycling as the "Hillary gets all her money from Wall St" chart? brooklynite Sep 2015 #41

No, the difference is this keeps being brought back up after it fails to persuade anyone. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #42

...just like the "Hillary gets all her money from Wall Street" chart brooklynite Sep 2015 #80

Yup. This week's featured meme is "Gun Nut". beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #71

Almost like it came down from HQ. senz Sep 2015 #73

The original "Bernie Sanders, Gun Nut" hit piece was posted as an OP on DU 5 times. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #75

Love the smell of desperation in the morning... senz Sep 2015 #76

Thom Hartmann talked about this today and reminded his listeners Fawke Em Sep 2015 #87

The people who need to listen won't. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #88

voters? Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #4

According to the article only one said she won't vote for him. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #5

All this nonsense means is they don't have a lot to throw against Bernie. hedda_foil Sep 2015 #7

What is this? Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #8

For "marganlized people" He also has the best platform for the middle class. Oh, I forgot, Skwmom Sep 2015 #9

I raise concerns about a candidate that voted for a war of agression and all the people ... slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #10

Sanders is right on the money on guns bluestateguy Sep 2015 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author pablo_marmol Sep 2015 #16

^^This. pablo_marmol Sep 2015 #17

Maybe we need more guns John Poet Sep 2015 #24

Found that old chew toy of yours, eh? bvf Sep 2015 #12

Keep trying Fuddnik Sep 2015 #13

think progress is part of the Hillary machine cali Sep 2015 #14

:D C Moon Sep 2015 #15

So does the NRA, which grades him D minus n/t eridani Sep 2015 #18

I think his record on that issue is fine (nt) bigwillq Sep 2015 #20

This dog shit didn't stick the first dozen times Camp Weathervane flung it. 99Forever Sep 2015 #21

His views on guns are mainstream. nt hack89 Sep 2015 #22

Fair Enough - He's less than ideal on this IMO. BUT... Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #23

+1 Dems to Win Sep 2015 #83

Can't help but notice the dismissive responses here from people who pretend to care about policy. DanTex Sep 2015 #26

d minus nra rating restorefreedom Sep 2015 #29

Policy: Brady Bill, and gun industry immunity. But I get it, you don't care about policy. DanTex Sep 2015 #30

can we try and be grown ups about this? restorefreedom Sep 2015 #32

Your last post was about the meaningless NRA rating. DanTex Sep 2015 #34

also keep in mind restorefreedom Sep 2015 #36

I get that he's from Vermont, but those were still bad votes. DanTex Sep 2015 #38

then its time to remake the gop restorefreedom Sep 2015 #46

Hillary Clinton supported taking Welfare benefits from women and children Armstead Sep 2015 #37

Why are Bernie's bad votes "dead horses" DanTex Sep 2015 #39

Because I support Bernie Armstead Sep 2015 #40

The Brady Bill was FEDERAL. Bernie is for STATE control. senz Sep 2015 #64

The Brady Bill didn't stop states from imposing stricter laws. What it did is establish a uniform DanTex Sep 2015 #65

He was referring specifically to waiting periods. senz Sep 2015 #66

The Brady Bill was more than just waiting periods, and bernie voted against the whole thing DanTex Sep 2015 #68

Good representatives consider entire bills & their effect on consituents. senz Sep 2015 #69

Sure, if you're an anti-gun-control right-winger, then Bernie's vote was "good." DanTex Sep 2015 #70

Vermonters are not right-wingers. Don't even try to put Bernie senz Sep 2015 #72

Don't you get it, senz? Anyone who disagrees with Dan is a right wing gun nut. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #77

lol - and here I was expecting logic. senz Sep 2015 #82

Gun CONTROL nt artislife Sep 2015 #84

you know there is no tootsie roll inside, right? restorefreedom Sep 2015 #27

It is funny how this has turned many people pro-gun treestar Sep 2015 #28

That's the funniest thing. People claiming to be progressives suddenly bending over backwards DanTex Sep 2015 #31

and complaining it is brought up over and over again treestar Sep 2015 #47

Sanders is PRO GUN CONTROL Armstead Sep 2015 #35

and he'll have to deal with this question over and over treestar Sep 2015 #48

True. But I'm referring to your mischaracterization of him and those who support him Armstead Sep 2015 #49

My mischaracterization? treestar Sep 2015 #54

Talk about taking the ball and running. TM99 Sep 2015 #62

If I said Hillary was Anti Choice because of some things she might have said or done.... Armstead Sep 2015 #67

Huh? Who needs "special environments" for running? Not Bernie... senz Sep 2015 #74

funny how you continue to just make things up. cali Sep 2015 #45

I'm making up that running for President means treestar Sep 2015 #51

The concern of John Podesta's organization is noted Armstead Sep 2015 #33

Shocking that what is functionally an arm of Hillary's campaign would attack Bernie. cali Sep 2015 #43

Do you expect Bernie not to be attacked by Hillary and her minions? treestar Sep 2015 #50

And how many times have criicisms on Hillary been attacjed as wrong Armstead Sep 2015 #52

exactly, I was getting at the replies that were treestar Sep 2015 #56

I gather you have a problem distinguishing the difference between a poster on DU cali Sep 2015 #59

No I do not, and Hillary's surrogates may be treestar Sep 2015 #61

Maybe he can introduce some phony legislation moobu2 Sep 2015 #44

The concerns of your oligarchic website source Admiral Loinpresser Sep 2015 #53

Maybe to a few voters. Those of us in the reality based world think Bernie's Autumn Sep 2015 #55

He Represented the Good Folks in VT fredamae Sep 2015 #57

Another "gun" rerun??? catnhatnh Sep 2015 #58

It's not "voters" who raise these "concerns," it's Bernie's opposition. senz Sep 2015 #60

Don't you ever get tired of bringing this up and watching it get shot down? tularetom Sep 2015 #63

Objectively speaking, Bernie is against assault rifles for private use, voted to ban high capacity still_one Sep 2015 #78

Stop it!!!! zappaman Sep 2015 #79

well played zappie big_dog Sep 2015 #81

Because H stance of violence is better artislife Sep 2015 #85

She's also pro-death penalty. nt beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #86