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2016 Postmortem

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WillyT

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Tue Sep 22, 2015, 11:23 AM Sep 2015

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Protecting Hillary: All over but the shouting
EDITORIAL - New Hampshire Union Leader
September 21. 2015 8:38PM

In 2008, Democratic presidential primary voters defied the party establishment and picked an inspiring young candidate over the one anointed by party elders. This time, the establishment is not taking any chances. Democratic voters should feel used.

The Democratic National Committee (DNC) has strictly limited the number of officially sanctioned presidential primary debates to six and written the participation rules so tightly as to all but guarantee there will be no alternatives such as the New Hampshire Union Leader’s Voters First Forum for Republican presidential candidates this past summer.

The DNC has scheduled only four presidential debates before the Iowa caucuses, and only one debate in New Hampshire, that one on Dec. 19, just six days before Christmas.

When DNC Chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz spoke at the state Democratic Convention in Manchester on Saturday, she was heckled so loudly her speech was drowned out at times. The hecklers shouted her down with demands of more debates. Their anger and frustration are understandable.

On the Republican side, primary voters have 16 candidate options and 11 debates to help them decide. Six of those debates are scheduled before the Feb. 1 Iowa caucuses. The Democratic primary voters are being muffled — on purpose — by a party elite that wants no one to disrupt Hillary Clinton’s path to the nomination.

If an establishment Republican is to win the presidential nomination in 2016, he is going to have to earn it. The same is not true on the Democratic side. From the debate schedule to the early endorsements from figures such as U.S. Sen. Jeanne Shaheen and Gov. Maggie Hassan, the fix is in for Clinton. Democratic voters might ask themselves why the establishment feels the need to go to such lengths to protect its candidate from the voters’ judgment.


Link: http://www.unionleader.com/Protecting_Hillary:_All_over_but_the_shouting_


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I think we'll get more debates b/c they've had enough time to figure out Skwmom Sep 2015 #1
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #2
Fred, you're an intelligent person. marym625 Sep 2015 #4
Man! Those crickets are deafening! Human101948 Sep 2015 #13
You do realize that having a post in this thread mythology Sep 2015 #38
That was a pretty innocuous post to have hidden. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #55
"messengers deserve to be shot on sight" progressoid Sep 2015 #64
It was a metaphor. If you believe he was being literal you should contact your local constabulary. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #65
That's a clever way to cover one's very angry ass ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2015 #67
A metaphor. Riiiiight. progressoid Sep 2015 #74
"Shooting the messenger" is a common metaphor and not to be taken literally. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #75
It's Perfect... Shoot The Messenger... WillyT Sep 2015 #70
Your "messenger" has issues. Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #71
So... How Is It That We Are Supposed To Support Democrats, When Other Democrats Prevent WillyT Sep 2015 #73
Objecting Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #92
Agreed workinclasszero Sep 2015 #81
yep. marym625 Sep 2015 #89
It was a generally accepted idea at the time during the DNC Conference calls Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #68
yes, but druidity33 Sep 2015 #88
big difference marym625 Sep 2015 #90
If this is an attack on Clinton, then it's a tacit admission that the DNC is in the tank for her.. frylock Sep 2015 #16
ALL the attacks on Clinton at DU quote conservative and even ultra-con websites. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #18
Thank you demwing Sep 2015 #24
"You NEVER do ANYTHING I ask you to do." AlbertCat Sep 2015 #60
I expect them next to claim Bernie is a GOP plant. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #42
I dont need to go to ANY rightwing board to find out what the TP attacks are randys1 Sep 2015 #28
All you are saying is true so WHY Rilgin Sep 2015 #53
I guess you missed the 289 times I said I am a Bernie supporter. randys1 Sep 2015 #54
I have seen your recent posts Rilgin Sep 2015 #56
Your first paragraph makes no sense to me. Unless you are spreading the rightwing meme randys1 Sep 2015 #57
It is your allegation Rilgin Sep 2015 #61
No one is 'electable' until they are elected. Sanders has been elected over and over again sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #91
K&R! marym625 Sep 2015 #3
LOL !!! - You Bad... WillyT Sep 2015 #14
LOL! marym625 Sep 2015 #15
Thanks for the visual d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #45
no problem marym625 Sep 2015 #48
Well ... the conservative ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #5
It Wasn't Conservatives Shouting Down DWS... Was It ??? WillyT Sep 2015 #6
Ayep Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #7
I love the premature apology though. zappaman Sep 2015 #21
So both of you believe Willy T is a Republican plant. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #76
Do you often put words into people's mouths? zappaman Sep 2015 #82
I have no intention of acting like a submoron in order to fit your narrative DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #86
So you do like to put words into people's mouths. zappaman Sep 2015 #93
I don't do low functioning discourse. Bye. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #94
Bye. zappaman Sep 2015 #97
Maybe the conservative Democrats don't like being challenged. jalan48 Sep 2015 #8
It's a big little tent the party lives in. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #25
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Welcome to DU... SidDithers Sep 2015 #11
Who are you voting for in the Primaries Sid bahrbearian Sep 2015 #19
He refuses to commit to vote for the Democratic nominee. morningfog Sep 2015 #40
Again... zappaman Sep 2015 #22
that sounds a lot like the new limbaugh appealing to the teabagger 'masses' certainot Sep 2015 #12
Welcome back ! obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2015 #36
Never knew her middle name before treestar Sep 2015 #62
There are two people accusing you of being a banned member who has returned. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #77
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #78
Up to you. I'm going to begin calling these things out when I see them. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #79
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Lol! zappaman Sep 2015 #84
I meant what I said. If you have inside information, let's ask the admins why you do. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #85
Sid is my father. zappaman Sep 2015 #95
Lol! zappaman Sep 2015 #83
actually, what gets republicans thru primaries are the talk radio gods, with certainot Sep 2015 #10
The zombies are on their way to the grave. saidsimplesimon Sep 2015 #17
how many debates do you really need? Keep-Left Sep 2015 #20
More than enough. After two, people's eyes glaze over. Laser102 Sep 2015 #34
The Republicans got a lot of free publicity NewJeffCT Sep 2015 #39
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No... It's Not All I Have... WillyT Sep 2015 #26
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The link directs me to here Wankle Ronnie Sep 2015 #41
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I'll be happy to link you to articles that Dems marym625 Sep 2015 #50
Don't bother, they want the right wing sources. A Simple Game Sep 2015 #98
+1 marym625 Sep 2015 #99
Like I've said before Faux pas Sep 2015 #27
Bernie fans Seem would be pals with the devil if the devil was against Hillary. Tommy2Tone Sep 2015 #30
If Bernie keeps on going around the country and SheilaT Sep 2015 #31
WillyT. I certainly don't mind hearing from the Conservative side of things. I (like most here) can BlueJazz Sep 2015 #32
Thanks BlueJazz... There Are Many People On This Site Who Like To Stay Informed... WillyT Sep 2015 #33
Glad to hear you say that, Willy... gregcrawford Sep 2015 #37
Very true. I'll state this: I LIKE cats. They're cute. Having said that..If I can put up with 172 .. BlueJazz Sep 2015 #44
We have two Siamese cats... gregcrawford Sep 2015 #59
I've one cat, 2 rabbits, one Golden retreiver, 3 rats, and a chinchila. They all get along with.. BlueJazz Sep 2015 #63
Quite a menagerie! gregcrawford Sep 2015 #66
Can we really call those TV shows featuring Republican candidates "debates"? staggerleem Sep 2015 #35
It would be nice to not see these kind of "much ado about nothing threads" GitRDun Sep 2015 #43
Oddly enough, all of the arguments seem to assume that MineralMan Sep 2015 #47
K&R CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #49
Dump the DNC. Let Chris Hayes, Women's League or someone host REAL debates Catherina Sep 2015 #51
+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #52
the DNC will eventually hang themselves olddots Sep 2015 #58
Since it's a conservative paper the conclusion should be obvious Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #69
of arely staircase Sep 2015 #72
WTF? "Union Leader"??? Anyone here remember what the Union Leader did in 1972 to Muskie? McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #87
Yes...the fix is in for Ms. Inevitable. SoapBox Sep 2015 #96
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