2016 Postmortem

randys1

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246. So it appears you are willing to risk a GOP government and I am not. Not even Bernie

Tue Sep 22, 2015, 04:21 PM

Sep 2015

approves of hurling insults at Hillary, but that is because he knows as different as she and he are on a couple issues, they are very similar on many and the very idea of the GOP in power frightens the hell out of him.

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Hillary camp argued for fewer than 6 debates in negotiations with DNC [View all] Catherina Sep 2015 OP

wow. thanks Cat. She really is a piece of work. cali Sep 2015 #1

Arrogant and entitled Catherina Sep 2015 #10

"It goes along with the attitude that *all your votes belong to me*" passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #65

I love the Bernie people here. They find shit. :D roguevalley Sep 2015 #67

it's downright offensive AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #68

I can already see their replies to this. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #90

The DNC has screwed the pooch with this. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #102

you forgot, "she's evolved on debates." magical thyme Sep 2015 #210

Isn't that special, 4 debates. We must change this, by doing the following, TODAY! appalachiablue Sep 2015 #238

Bernie's anger is entirely justified. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #87

The sole deciding factor is Hillary 'evolving' from 'being open' to actually WANTING more debates? 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #2

pretty nauseating. Hillary is just so dishonest cali Sep 2015 #3

If you were Hillary Clinton Aerows Sep 2015 #82

You have a point, I suppose 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #97

Mrs. Manipulator has no integrity. 840high Sep 2015 #150

If I were running as a Democrat, I'd want to promote the Democratic Party brand eridani Sep 2015 #203

This is the proof that the Democratic insiders would rather lose the election than surender their Vincardog Sep 2015 #4

the primary is a sham. cali Sep 2015 #5

It was before Berie anounced. Vincardog Sep 2015 #7

That�s not the point.. dorkzilla Sep 2015 #16

She thought it was an auction. Whomever had the most corporate $$$ wins. We have to prove her wrong Vincardog Sep 2015 #20

I�m going to laugh my ass off when they�re all beaten by the guy who wouldn�t be bought. dorkzilla Sep 2015 #24

This could be an indication of things to come! artislife Sep 2015 #26

The Kochs were throwing money at a complete dunce. Unknown Beatle Sep 2015 #47

Bernie running actually saved this shit from being a cake walk. Thank you again, roguevalley Sep 2015 #73

The money they donated to the DLC was a much better investment for them. The gift that keeps merrily Sep 2015 #217

Even the Republican rank and file recognize there is a problem with the money in elections. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #94

This is the easiest way to make Citizens United go away Mnpaul Sep 2015 #170

I couldn't agree more. Bernie may be taking a metaphorical bullet for democracy. dorkzilla Sep 2015 #179

Exactamundo. hifiguy Sep 2015 #63

Bingo Right in one. Vincardog Sep 2015 #86

She, the DNC and the Party's mouthpieces sure did their best to bring about that result. merrily Sep 2015 #134

With as much as the deck has been stacked... Lancero Sep 2015 #196

And I, as a voter, Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #49

Well, like everyone, the DNC tends to go with the folks who best represent their positions, right? HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #52

Hillary Doesn't Know What She Is TrumanTown Sep 2015 #57

Performing on stage.... AlbertCat Sep 2015 #234

I'm not sure I'd go that far passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #72

+1 merrily Sep 2015 #120

+1 Hillary did not do right by the party during the 2008 primary, hanging on after she had no chance merrily Sep 2015 #131

D N C = Desperate Neoliberal Corporatists mhatrw Sep 2015 #201

Rec! Not a surprise. She got what she asked for: Four Debates. morningfog Sep 2015 #6

And this sort of crap is why I don't just oppose her on some policy issues, record and rhetoric. cali Sep 2015 #9

Yep. She cannot be trusted. She "welcomes more debates." Bullshit. morningfog Sep 2015 #13

It is this sort of corruption that makes Bernie so popular. Dustlawyer Sep 2015 #15

Both parties are doing a good job of thoroughly discrediting themselves this year n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #46

Well put. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #99

+++ Fuckin' A! stillwaiting Sep 2015 #19

. . . What's best for the people. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #42

She will NEVER get mine. We have to put them all and the DNC on blast. Now roguevalley Sep 2015 #77

And....... philosslayer Sep 2015 #76

"Because what will the alternative be after all?" R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #103

Jill Stein Nothingcleverjustray Sep 2015 #113

Writing in Bernie? merrily Sep 2015 #218

More alternatives than that. merrily Sep 2015 #132

I'll write in Bernie...I will not vote for the lesser of two evils ever again! I won't do it..fuck haikugal Sep 2015 #172

This is just something else that screams "YOU DON'T MATTER' Avalux Sep 2015 #8

Not speeches. "Thoughtful discussions." Aldo Leopold Sep 2015 #70

You Don't Matter passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #93

Donors are the only people who apparently matter n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #104

LOL! Did the republican set the debate schedule for us??!! 4139 Sep 2015 #11

fuck the dnc cali Sep 2015 #14

Fuck them because that�s exactly what they�re doing to us. dorkzilla Sep 2015 #17

Jeez! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #101

They might as well have, the Dec. 19th game is opposite a prime time NFL football game Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #154

Why bother with risky debates when you can just buy the election with corporate cash? K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #12

Here's how to force the DNC into more debates. Have debates with all candidates except Hillary litlbilly Sep 2015 #18

It won't work, the schedule is such no one will be watching anyway.. Vincardog Sep 2015 #21

Ignore the DNC debate schedule and its exclusionary rule. If ALL of the other candidates tblue37 Sep 2015 #64

which is what she'd love merrily Sep 2015 #137

Why? She would look terrible, and the other candidates would be seen tblue37 Sep 2015 #216

. merrily Sep 2015 #220

then Hillary can stand all by her lonesome up there.... AlbertCat Sep 2015 #235

I'm warming up to this idea & am almost on board. Bernie doesn't need the DNC. Catherina Sep 2015 #240

she does not deserve, nor will ever restorefreedom Sep 2015 #22

An interesting look at DNC party politics senz Sep 2015 #23

This is Bernie's year. Harper's John R. MacArthur needs to rethink JDPriestly Sep 2015 #37

Agreed. JD. Just like a ghost, they don't know they're dead and irrelevant yet. roguevalley Sep 2015 #79

+1 merrily Sep 2015 #138

What interested me in MacArthur's article is a growing consensus re Hillary's chances. senz Sep 2015 #195

Maybe if you are in DC you won't get a reaction AlbertCat Sep 2015 #236

This is going viral on the internet right now and not in a good way Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #25

"The game is rigged. And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. " RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #27

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz leftofcool Sep 2015 #28

you can sleep through this, but it's big trouble for dems cali Sep 2015 #30

Exactly what many progressive will be doing come election Purveyor Sep 2015 #43

it got all the way to her before a hillarian showed up. That must be a record. roguevalley Sep 2015 #80

Nice sig line, but do Democrats votes matter? R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #109

Yea, in the primary and the GE leftofcool Sep 2015 #111

It doesn't appear that way, but there's plenty of lip $evice to that effect. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #118

As long as the voters do as they're told in these "primary" thingies, eh Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #169

La la la Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #168

I enjoy the sound of graveyard whistling. morningfog Sep 2015 #176

Exactly. Darb Sep 2015 #212

so falling asleep is your tactic? Javaman Sep 2015 #241

Is that hillarys response to any question? Nt Logical Sep 2015 #253

This is ridiculous ut oh Sep 2015 #29

Not this weekend BS AlbertCat Sep 2015 #237

This needs to go to the greatest page.. yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #31

declined portlander23 Sep 2015 #32

She dodged those questions with the cowardice of a republican n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #39

Two yes or no questions, met with a word salad. MindfulOne Sep 2015 #66

With the guise of a lawyer with something to hide. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #119

Has she ever actually answered a single question directly? About ANYTHING? Indepatriot Sep 2015 #40

No. (Do you see what I just did?) nt tblue37 Sep 2015 #69

She couldn't even give a simple answer to the question... Ino Sep 2015 #164

craven pandering restorefreedom Sep 2015 #186

W did NOT "try to bring the country together"! He deliberately used a national trauma tblue37 Sep 2015 #224

Voters in the first primary states get so much exposure to and access JDPriestly Sep 2015 #33

Another lie from Clinton? I wish I could say I was surprised. arcane1 Sep 2015 #34

"The left has nowhere else to go." merrily Sep 2015 #219

True enough... freebrew Sep 2015 #243

K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #35

Her and Little Debbie are thick as thieves, and democracy is what their stealing from us. Indepatriot Sep 2015 #36

In this one thread alone, these are the comments by ALLEGED Democrats about DEMOCRATIC randys1 Sep 2015 #38

it's revealing that you are more upset about those rather tame expressions cali Sep 2015 #44

Nah, like i said, I am so much further to the left than you it would give you a headache randys1 Sep 2015 #54

I can guarantee that you are not further to the left than me and Live and Learn Sep 2015 #192

You already lost the bet, nobody said anything about OK randys1 Sep 2015 #232

I think your post proves my point. nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #248

You're asking people to self-censor for fear of the GOP. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #45

Yep. blue neen Sep 2015 #48

Hey she thinks Kim Kardasian is inspirational Ichingcarpenter Sep 2015 #50

Most of the commenters are NOT Democrats. They proudly say so, too. Metric System Sep 2015 #51

Baloney. Jackilope Sep 2015 #149

Thanks for your very clear response to the smear against those of us who won't play this game. haikugal Sep 2015 #175

Bernie is and has been far truer to Democratic principles than Hillary ever was or will be. nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #194

It would be nice if people here would stick to the truth when trying to make a point. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #193

We hold our own to a higher standard. Republican shitheads Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #53

We're expected to suck it up, in silence, for the career of a flawed candidate? arcane1 Sep 2015 #55

I'm of the opinion that if Hillary makes it so easy for anyone Autumn Sep 2015 #60

I agree, and put DWS in the same bag. bvar22 Sep 2015 #155

I have no use for DWS at all. Autumn Sep 2015 #157

Because PalinRomneyRyanWalkerBushTrump boogieman! R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #123

Dont mind me, I will just follow Thom Hartmann's lead, one of Bernie's biggest randys1 Sep 2015 #124

You go right ahead, haus. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #147

"Clinton 2016: Because What Else Can You Do?" n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #126

Nope, mine is "Bernie for the Win" randys1 Sep 2015 #127

LOL! merrily Sep 2015 #139

Clinton 2016: Deal With It mhatrw Sep 2015 #205

You get right to the point. Hillary is a shitty candidate who can't be trusted. morningfog Sep 2015 #177

plus a jillion. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #188

I am absolutely convinced she will lose. Puglover Sep 2015 #239

"One of the few FAR LEFT liberals on this board"?!? chervilant Sep 2015 #187

And you're an ALLEGED FAR LEFT liberal. not that I have EVER seen any evidence at all cali Sep 2015 #222

so let me get this straight, you are more concerned about comments here on DU than... Javaman Sep 2015 #242

I am VERY concerned with what is said everywhere as it can turn Democratic randys1 Sep 2015 #244

and as my "avie" indicated, hillary voted for the war Bernie didn't Javaman Sep 2015 #245

So it appears you are willing to risk a GOP government and I am not. Not even Bernie randys1 Sep 2015 #246

LOL stop the baiting it's very unattractive. Javaman Sep 2015 #247

+1. I too am surprised by intensity of anti-Hillary statements. philly_bob Sep 2015 #250

Thanxs ..A far left person, like me, believes individuals owning land is insane, for instance randys1 Sep 2015 #257

So you must LOVE repubs who blindly support all their candidates? Nt Logical Sep 2015 #254

Not surprising, and for a simple reason. hifiguy Sep 2015 #41

Now I can't WAIT for that first debate. Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #59

Beware of a "rigged" moderator. That could change things in a bad way. nt ladjf Sep 2015 #85

I fully expect a rigged moderator. Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #92

The rigged moderator can allow it to turn into a junk ladjf Sep 2015 #95

And people are sick to the teeth of the Clintons hifiguy Sep 2015 #96

She will sink like an anchor in deep water. hifiguy Sep 2015 #89

Spot on MissDeeds Sep 2015 #62

If this is 100% Credible? fredamae Sep 2015 #56

This is why people keep calling Hillary a Repug-lite... ion_theory Sep 2015 #114

If this were the GOP fredamae Sep 2015 #125

Also why many of the centrists I talk too have a problem with Dems... ion_theory Sep 2015 #129

Well, the GOP fredamae Sep 2015 #141

To be honest I didn't feel anything but bizarre comedy with ion_theory Sep 2015 #153

I hear ya and loss of faith/trust in the system n/t fredamae Sep 2015 #156

There ya go. in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #58

She said over the weekend she's fine with more debates Doctor_J Sep 2015 #61

Hell, she didn't even say that. She said she's fine with whatever the DNC decides. arcane1 Sep 2015 #74

Maybe she knew this story was going to hit the fan? merrily Sep 2015 #140

She's not demanding them. She's just "fine" with them. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #148

Didn't Hillary recently say she'd do more debates if the DNC allowed? Seems dishonest, merrily Sep 2015 #71

Kick /nt think Sep 2015 #75

cue the Leslie Gore song olddots Sep 2015 #78

She doesn't want�. zentrum Sep 2015 #81

The "Clinton Brand" is more like it. n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #106

And the party wonder................................. turbinetree Sep 2015 #83

It's the New Exclusvity Clause fredamae Sep 2015 #84

What would happen if all the other candidate just went ahead and held non-DNC Approves debates? bvar22 Sep 2015 #159

No, If the other candidates do that fredamae Sep 2015 #171

No better than election fraud IMO whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #88

First voters need to notice that the Democratic Party actually still exists 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #98

I can't wait until the debate schedule is debated at the debate Motown_Johnny Sep 2015 #91

It Is Increasingly Clear That HRC Is Unfit To Serve cantbeserious Sep 2015 #100

I have, somewhat reluctantly, started to use the other N-word (Nixon) hifiguy Sep 2015 #107

Fascism started out like this fadedrose Sep 2015 #105

Well said, fadedrose. merrily Sep 2015 #225

Of course he did but so what? Tommy2Tone Sep 2015 #108

She knows if people are exposed to Bernie on a grand scale, she's toast. Vinca Sep 2015 #110

See post #89, above. hifiguy Sep 2015 #115

with 4 debates & 2 candidates that's 4 hrs for each candidate to make their case. Not enough time? Bill USA Sep 2015 #112

Only two candidates? arcane1 Sep 2015 #116

There are 6 candidates. And there are DOZENS of issues that should be discussed think Sep 2015 #128

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #117

So far, it has proven wise to let the greedy, ignorant, racist GOP go first and in prime-time. Hoyt Sep 2015 #121

we don't know that at all. cali Sep 2015 #130

We don't know more debates will help a Democrat get elected, either. We do Hoyt Sep 2015 #142

Not very Democratic. bvar22 Sep 2015 #161

Our democracy benefits from a Democrat in the White House. Debates will not necessarily Hoyt Sep 2015 #163

I agree. bvar22 Sep 2015 #180

Well, Sanders has even less chance, a lot less IMO. Hoyt Sep 2015 #197

LOL! merrily Sep 2015 #231

Bermie & O'Malley should opt out Geronimoe Sep 2015 #122

"Hilllary can debate herself" DirtyHippyBastard Sep 2015 #136

Let her debate herself pinebox Sep 2015 #133

That is what she wants. Let O'Malley and the others pick off Bernie while she is free of merrily Sep 2015 #144

So we come back to the establishment sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #135

You haven't heard, Hillary just announced she's an now "outsider" candidate. 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #158

Watching Hillary "evolve" is like watching a snake shed its skin. bvar22 Sep 2015 #160

Outsiders are popular this election Mnpaul Sep 2015 #173

. merrily Sep 2015 #221

lol - yep, but not nearly as artfully as Dianna -nt- 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #229

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #143

I won't vote for her. NowSam Sep 2015 #145

The shamelessness of it all is nauseating. hifiguy Sep 2015 #146

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #151

this needs to be understood by the hilary people restorefreedom Sep 2015 #152

+1000 i agree with your assessment noiretextatique Sep 2015 #182

agreed. she can not get the support restorefreedom Sep 2015 #185

Clinton is, as Kerry was, a corpawn to make sure the RepUkes win. n/t mhatrw Sep 2015 #206

yup. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #209

What a crock of shit. This is sooooo normal. Darb Sep 2015 #213

then you are free to not watch restorefreedom Sep 2015 #215

I thought this was the Democratic Party, jkbRN Sep 2015 #162

DNC & Hillary Are Corrupt merkins Sep 2015 #165

Actually I am glad that this came out. sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #166

I bet. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #167

Congratulations, Hillary! Not Sure Sep 2015 #174

Frightened of debates? Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #178

SO WHAT??? What front runner of any election would not?? nt Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2015 #181

Hillary is a fighter and she has been fighting all of her political life. And she is the victim of kelliekat44 Sep 2015 #183

Oh Lordie - Just glancing through - this should be renamed "Bernie Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2015 #184

She know's she can't win in a free and open election process, so she does what does, she cheats bowens43 Sep 2015 #189

and THEY GOT FEWER THAN SIX restorefreedom Sep 2015 #190

look, this faction thinks we're damned lucky they let us *vote* on MisterP Sep 2015 #191

I'm a Bernie supporter; I don't see how six debates is too little. C Moon Sep 2015 #198

And I suppose you want them on opposite major sporting events? n/t eridani Sep 2015 #204

On weekends and right before Christmas? n/t mhatrw Sep 2015 #207

Debbie absolutely doesn't have a preferred candidate. Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #199

Remember when Poppy Bush refused to debate his opponents? lbrtbell Sep 2015 #200

What I really don't get is why she doesn't understand that this is going to hurt her if-- eridani Sep 2015 #202

Because it won't hurt her. Darb Sep 2015 #214

Not according to the huge ratings for the two Republican debates so far n/t eridani Sep 2015 #249

OFFS, she's pathetic. BeanMusical Sep 2015 #208

Stop whining about debates. Darb Sep 2015 #211

stop telling people what to do. grab a clue. cali Sep 2015 #223

The debates are an important part of our Democracy d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #233

Why don't you just not read threads about debates? Since you really are not in charge of djean111 Sep 2015 #252

LOL, hillary is that you? What a silly post! Nt Logical Sep 2015 #255

Hillary wants more debates but it is not up to her, it is up to her "camp". GoneFishin Sep 2015 #226

Well, if you can't beat 'em Faux pas Sep 2015 #227

The Oligarchy that runs this country has spoken! ish of the hammer Sep 2015 #228

The "Hillary camp" disdains democracy. They are afraid of the people. senz Sep 2015 #230

one a month is enough. Mrs. Clinton, Sanders and O'Malley need to meet for lunch and talk. Sunlei Sep 2015 #251

This doesn't surprise me kenfrequed Sep 2015 #256