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RedStateLiberal

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23. Not always.

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:59 AM

Jul 2012

I've owned and operated my own small business for over a decade and that hasn't happened to me yet. It has come close to that with anti-net neutrality bills which, thankfully, have not passed.

My business is web based so, obviously, it wouldn't exist without my initiative AND the Internet - which was created by the government.

When it comes to the tax code, I'll agree with you - it is a mess and overly complicated and really only benefits those with enough money to hire a bunch of lawyers.

The government is not all good or all bad, it's both. Just like most issues there are always shades of grey.

The problem with Repubs is they want to pretend it's all bad while simultaneously trying to make people believe that Dems think it's all good. I believe it does more good than bad and it's all about shared responsibility and that's what makes our system great and keeps the American dream alive. That dream is dying due to Republican insistence that the government is the problem - and you know who came up with that stupid idea.

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Saw this crap on Facebook and posted this response. [View all] WonderGrunion Jul 2012 OP

Great response DesertRat Jul 2012 #1

Well done! RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #2

I guess we should first see if Snoopy's is paying taxes and how much... progress2k12nbynd Jul 2012 #3

Roads require constant maintenance ... ThePhilosopher04 Jul 2012 #5

I'd want to see where he got his start-up money. JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #6

Is Snoopy's located in an area where snow falls in the winter? Does Snoopy's plow the public roads? NBachers Jul 2012 #10

just to play devil's advocate Riftaxe Jul 2012 #13

If you're claiming you did something without any help lolly Jul 2012 #16

if your claiming that roads, infrastructure would not exist Riftaxe Jul 2012 #18

The perks of a civilized society? Blanks Jul 2012 #58

I don't think most people would deny that� progress2k12nbynd Jul 2012 #37

I wonder nineteen50 Jul 2012 #46

Um...no. That's not the new meme jeff47 Jul 2012 #96

Yes gas taxes pay for roads Confusious Jul 2012 #106

Nobody is saying it would exist without him. RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #19

If you start your own business, the one thing that is guaranteed Riftaxe Jul 2012 #22

Not always. RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #23

The term you're looking for is "due diligence" baldguy Jul 2012 #34

+1 dmr Jul 2012 #45

+ 2 mac56 Jul 2012 #56

There is always a reason for regulation nineteen50 Jul 2012 #47

I own and run my own business. Hasn't happened to me, either. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #61

Count me among those who own a small business & haven't experienced any of these "strange laws" Doremus Jul 2012 #70

How is anyone screwed by these laws? treestar Jul 2012 #76

What a gawdawful pile of sophomoric elephant manure. TahitiNut Jul 2012 #94

I ran my own car detail shop in Miami for 9 years; did my own building maintenance business NBachers Jul 2012 #33

If not "Snoopy's", then something else. bvar22 Jul 2012 #39

I'm a small biz owner and I find that so offensive. Since WHEN does DU "shit" on small biz people? progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #42

Why would you insult DU with a bullshit statement like that? dmr Jul 2012 #48

LOL bongbong Jul 2012 #51

The only one without a clue is yourself abelenkpe Jul 2012 #55

Nobody is saying Snoopy didn't work hard! livingonearth Jul 2012 #57

I owned a business for years. You're a friggin' idiot. loudsue Jul 2012 #67

''Would snoopy's be in existence without the guy who started it?'' DeSwiss Jul 2012 #73

Somebody would have started something treestar Jul 2012 #75

you "sick son of a bitch".. iamthebandfanman Jul 2012 #78

I would take exception to your comment that this forum shits on small rurallib Jul 2012 #81

In what sense are small businesspeople being shit upon by democrats? lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #84

I'm a private citizen lolly Jul 2012 #17

Dont you see Dokkie Jul 2012 #68

So what? jeff47 Jul 2012 #97

At what point is he Dokkie Jul 2012 #100

Actually, the social contract is binding for life. jeff47 Jul 2012 #102

You're kidding right? Confusious Jul 2012 #108

So snoopy is the only guy on that road? Confusious Jul 2012 #107

The POINT is that NO business would exist without society AND the government. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #44

There was once a man WoodyM90 Jul 2012 #92

As an accountant, I can tell you no one pays that much of a tax burden... WCGreen Jul 2012 #52

You forgot to add ... ThePhilosopher04 Jul 2012 #4

I'm not so sure I could say federally funded police and teachers. That's a real stretch. SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jul 2012 #9

It was never designed to operate that way. The federal government SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jul 2012 #20

+1 A really well thought out response. Thanks. SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #26

Government is the prize nineteen50 Jul 2012 #49

The point isn't by what means a government service is provided bhikkhu Jul 2012 #21

I get it, really I do. I think we all forget that businesses pay taxes to provide infrastructure SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jul 2012 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jul 2012 #63

The small businesspersons I know, the mom and pops with less than ten employees, work hard, pay SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jul 2012 #85

You wrote five paragraphs on how evil they are. Give me a break. SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #89

Really well stated, thanks. freshwest Jul 2012 #71

Actually, a huge portion of both LE and teacher funding comes from the Feds jeff47 Jul 2012 #98

But it shouldn't. Federal dollars should not be paying for local police and fire departments. SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #101

Considering that has been the case for more than 100 years... jeff47 Jul 2012 #103

So, you are saying that the federal government has been paying the salaries of local fire and police SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #104

No, I'm not. jeff47 Jul 2012 #105

No, the poster that I originally responded to said that. If you want to argue the point, ask him SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #109

Keep knocking down those strawmen jeff47 Jul 2012 #111

They are not federally funded in any appreciable way at all. Nice try to spin it. If you wanted to SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #112

Thanks a million. That was excellent, you covered it all! freshwest Jul 2012 #8

Snoopy's apparently relied on hfojvt Jul 2012 #11

+1 n/t n2doc Jul 2012 #59

We have to challenge all this crap on Facebook and the internet. Grantuspeace Jul 2012 #12

Hey, I think I'll open a Snoopys Veggie Dogs down the street from this guy demwing Jul 2012 #15

is that in nc? we have a snoopy's and that might be the side of the building Tunkamerica Jul 2012 #24

He'd be nowhere without his customers or his employees. intheflow Jul 2012 #27

And a bee would be nowhere without flowering plants Dokkie Jul 2012 #72

I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not. intheflow Jul 2012 #110

Just what the world needs Coyotl Jul 2012 #28

Greece is not a "small government nation" nxylas Jul 2012 #29

Steve Webb didn't create the infrastructure CJCRANE Jul 2012 #30

someone needs to educate dumbass at Snoopy's what the "--" means. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #41

Bravo! Fridays Child Jul 2012 #31

BAM!! Excellent response... hwmnbn Jul 2012 #32

Your response is perfect. May we C+P it? The Doctor. Jul 2012 #35

Please copy and paste WonderGrunion Jul 2012 #38

Did he make that sign too? And the letters that went on it? Did he teach himself to spell so he jillan Jul 2012 #36

Wanna bet Snoopy's got an SBA loan at some point?? progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #40

I had the same thought. knitter4democracy Jul 2012 #79

This proves their utter stupidity not listening to an entire statement. graywarrior Jul 2012 #43

USDA not FDA bl968 Jul 2012 #50

In other words Plucketeer Jul 2012 #53

REALLY like your use of parallelism in the repetition of "Snoopy's". Also a veryVERY strong closing! patrice Jul 2012 #54

I don't understand why all the whining Jake2413 Jul 2012 #62

I stopped talking to the elder stepson. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #64

The only thing that I dislike is that he doesn't say President Obama. It take away from the crimson77 Jul 2012 #65

It isn't a damned semantical argument demwing Jul 2012 #69

So what in your mind does a man like this owe? crimson77 Jul 2012 #74

Which debate do you want to have? demwing Jul 2012 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author crimson77 Jul 2012 #87

Hmmmm ! virgogal Jul 2012 #80

Thankyou Elizabeth Warren Whisp Jul 2012 #66

Up yours Snoopy's with relish and indepat Jul 2012 #83

A great response evilhime Jul 2012 #86

Snoopy's is perpetuating a Fox News lie- the "it" Obama was referring to was infrastructure. SunSeeker Jul 2012 #88

location larwdem Jul 2012 #90

Snoopy just figured out how to rake off obscene profits from the business Hoyt Jul 2012 #91

If it was me I would have probably added this to my response 47of74 Jul 2012 #93

applaud your response humbled_opinion Jul 2012 #95

No Man Is An Island Peaceful Protester Jul 2012 #99