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11. Curious, what makes someone "far left" versus what makes someone "progressive"?...

Wed Sep 23, 2015, 08:03 PM

Sep 2015

It would be interesting to hear some explain here the terms they are using that are normally used by the right to try and pigeonhole us that side with a majority of Americans on many issues such as single payer health care, etc.

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Warning: if you criticize Bernie in any way, the far left will lash out at you all over the internet [View all] DanTex Sep 2015 OP

where are the links? virtualobserver Sep 2015 #1

Just hang here for a while liberal N proud Sep 2015 #2

Hillary supporters don't need facts to attack Sanders supporters jfern Sep 2015 #122

Since Hillary's primary win has been ordained by the gods.... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #128

They assume that after vilifying us for months jfern Sep 2015 #135

Hillary supporters see the same writing on the wall that we do...for Hillary, the trend is not her friend. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #279

This is kind of a strange post. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #157

I think you nailed it....we are the fact check virtualobserver Sep 2015 #175

its okay, they have their own freeper type board to go to. all is well roguevalley Sep 2015 #262

no, I'm afraid that I am not on their radar virtualobserver Sep 2015 #264

How would you characterize this OP? whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #3

Accurate. DanTex Sep 2015 #4

Try as we may to make it about Bernie supporters or Hillary supporters... whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #8

I agree. We'll see who prevails though... DanTex Sep 2015 #13

it is accurate to say that you provided no links virtualobserver Sep 2015 #9

take a look at any comment section of any article that is even remotely riversedge Sep 2015 #52

as a rule, I don't pursue wild geese....so the short answer is....you have nothing. virtualobserver Sep 2015 #58

you had a learnable moment but are choosing to bypass it. Have a good night. riversedge Sep 2015 #63

No proof, no credibility Wankle Ronnie Sep 2015 #97

A "learnable moment" in the form of an op which does nothing but insult sanders supporters? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #104

can you imagine what they will be like when Bernie takes the lead? virtualobserver Sep 2015 #132

I still give HRC good odds of being the nominee. But if she isn't, holy fuck Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #142

we will know after a few debates virtualobserver Sep 2015 #144

I think Bernie could totally hold his own in any debate with Joe Biden. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #154

I think he's good friends with Joe Biden & they're mostly on the same page with our government... Sunlei Sep 2015 #199

LOL PatrickforO Sep 2015 #203

All a debate candidate has to mention is Biden's votes bvar22 Sep 2015 #268

Correcting the record isn't "lashing out." Fawke Em Sep 2015 #200

NO....not good enough. bvar22 Sep 2015 #239

"No links" doesn't change reality. George II Sep 2015 #98

It doesn't change credibiity Wankle Ronnie Sep 2015 #102

"No links" suggest another weak "bernie supporters are so bad" attack virtualobserver Sep 2015 #109

i do recall someone here posting (Normal People Group) instead of Hillary Group. Do you mean roguevalley Sep 2015 #116

You're from Texas I presume? n/t 2banon Sep 2015 #178

Used to live there, not anymore. Why? DanTex Sep 2015 #195

certain pov seems to be representative of that region. . 2banon Sep 2015 #225

I'm much more of a New Yorker than a Texan. DanTex Sep 2015 #230

Low, very low. 840high Sep 2015 #7

Truth George II Sep 2015 #92

How would you know? nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #167

Gutter politics. Wankle Ronnie Sep 2015 #95

"How would you characterize this OP?" BeanMusical Sep 2015 #139

Insignificant. sibelian Sep 2015 #187

Low road, desperate. n/t ozone_man Sep 2015 #255

"Unless you sell vintage T-shirts in Portland"? Scootaloo Sep 2015 #5

I dont think he's ever, actually, been to Portland. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #80

The "far left" is what Bill O'Reilly calls us Bjorn Against Sep 2015 #6

That's exactly whose voice I'll hear in my head from now on whenever I read Dan's posts. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #10

I guess we just got the Memo. nt artislife Sep 2015 #26

Dan is nothing if not entertaining. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #27

It isn't entertaining at this point artislife Sep 2015 #36

I am sorry for your news. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #37

As only an atheist can---I hope! artislife Sep 2015 #40

Oh no. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #41

My wife is a double Cancer Survivor who was given 2 years to live, bvar22 Sep 2015 #245

I am so happy that your wife beat cancer and is still going strong. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #251

have had several losses to cancer restorefreedom Sep 2015 #54

With you.... Wankle Ronnie Sep 2015 #100

indeed. blackspade Sep 2015 #114

I'm sorry, and fuck cancer. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #123

Big hug for you: BeanMusical Sep 2015 #143

We are here for you Autumn Sep 2015 #152

Hugs, good vibes, and I hope a bit of serenity. Cancer is one wicked fucker. TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #265

I'm sorry to hear of your troubles, artislife Scootaloo Sep 2015 #61

Curious, what makes someone "far left" versus what makes someone "progressive"?... cascadiance Sep 2015 #11

George Carlin once said... To paraphrase... Fearless Sep 2015 #65

My Dad used to have two words for things that are old... sibelian Sep 2015 #188

bill oreilly! restorefreedom Sep 2015 #24

I'm beginning to understand why Republicans win in Texas Mnpaul Sep 2015 #149

Gave it a K&r NCTraveler Sep 2015 #12

Well, I thought I was the "far left" until I realized what the far left actually is. DanTex Sep 2015 #14

If you don't have any disagreement with Obama then you are a moderate Republican cui bono Sep 2015 #17

Nonsense. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #28

Total sense. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #49

Obama described himself as a Reagan Republican. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #77

Tell it to Obama. He's the one who calls himself a moderate Republican. cui bono Sep 2015 #91

Yeah, a "moderate '80s Republican" Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #137

*gasp...you really thought that? artislife Sep 2015 #38

I voted for him 6 times (counting primaries and generals). RichVRichV Sep 2015 #281

In the pursuit of more information, truebluegreen Sep 2015 #59

I don't really like those things, but still, I get -5.25 Economic -6.56 Social. DanTex Sep 2015 #78

So it's a wholy arbitrary, subjective, and personal descriptor. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #81

I know it when I see it. DanTex Sep 2015 #84

Thus confirming my statement. Thanks. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #87

Well, no. DanTex Sep 2015 #89

Whatever you say, tough guy n/t Scootaloo Sep 2015 #93

Argo... HERVEPA Sep 2015 #127

You're about where I am truebluegreen Sep 2015 #159

Where do they justify Obama's ranking? DanTex Sep 2015 #171

I was referring to this truebluegreen Sep 2015 #182

Yes, that's the mentally ill rant I saw. "Dazzled by pigment rather than policy detail." DanTex Sep 2015 #183

Silly. truebluegreen Sep 2015 #192

defined by its looniness than by actual political opinions. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #208

The only people saying the words "it's her turn" are Hillary haters. Yes, loony ones. DanTex Sep 2015 #210

The only people saying the words "it's her turn" are Hillary haters. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #216

See for yourself... DanTex Sep 2015 #217

Cute... AlbertCat Sep 2015 #221

The word here is "factual". It's a Hillary hater straw-man meme, plain and simple. DanTex Sep 2015 #223

Have you seen the Bernie hating? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #130

No. DanTex Sep 2015 #131

Not even the charges of racism??? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #133

Not even close. There are charges of charges of racism, but not actual charges of racism. DanTex Sep 2015 #136

I could send you links but it would finger members and I don't like to do that. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author AlbertCat Sep 2015 #206

Did you lose track of the conversation? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #207

Did you lose track of the conversation? AlbertCat Sep 2015 #215

I guess it depends on how long you've been posting.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #236

my actual fringe left friends outside of DU do not like Bernie at all. m-lekktor Sep 2015 #19

I really don't know many people I would define as far left. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #32

"Far left" would be advocating the elimination of private property and currency..... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #209

Yep. A thought process not constrained by the constitution. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #214

Republicans have got a segment of the population convinced that civilization is a fragile thing.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #240

The fuzzier the restrictions and limitations on the government interfering with our rights TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #272

Thank you Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #119

exactly. m-lekktor Sep 2015 #125

Does your "Far Left" include Cornell West and Noam Chomsky? bvar22 Sep 2015 #227

Oh, I'm talking people to the Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #234

...and you believe this handful of people will have an impact on this election? bvar22 Sep 2015 #242

No...but only because of the 2000 election...but that wasn't the point Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #252

Are either of those guys Democrats? nt arely staircase Sep 2015 #256

Not true...at all. bvar22 Sep 2015 #15

Today??? cui bono Sep 2015 #18

It was apparently coordinated from offsite. hootinholler Sep 2015 #56

No, I hadn't! cui bono Sep 2015 #99

Where is the OP calling Bernie a racist? upaloopa Sep 2015 #66

Look harder . TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #274

We look at the same thing and see different things upaloopa Sep 2015 #280

Yeah! Like white supremacist!!! cui bono Sep 2015 #16

Seems to me Kelvin Mace Sep 2015 #20

Yup, so true. FuzzyRabbit Sep 2015 #105

Absolutely! Kelvin Mace Sep 2015 #174

what, no reference to the grateful dead restorefreedom Sep 2015 #21

Very classy post. Vattel Sep 2015 #22

Desperate Hillary Supporter (DHS) (tm) post alert! TheProgressive Sep 2015 #23

Warning: this OP is to stir it up artislife Sep 2015 #25

VOLVOS! LATTES! SOCIALIST! EEEEEEEEEEK BERNIE'S GONNA TAKE MY YACHT! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #29

Because "White people wearing dashikis" is so "high road" and classy. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #30

Complain about 'name calling' in one breath. pa28 Sep 2015 #31

K&R.... Kang Colby Sep 2015 #33

Electing the first "female" president is your biggest issue? bvar22 Sep 2015 #42

I agree with you in principal. Kang Colby Sep 2015 #43

Only in the sense that they both happen to be female... mak3cats Sep 2015 #55

I compare her to Margaret Thatcher. 2banon Sep 2015 #179

seriously DonCoquixote Sep 2015 #150

In this image you have granola to snack on, while you wait for daily bread rations? virtualobserver Sep 2015 #201

Just saying is all portlander23 Sep 2015 #34

Another loser whines. No coronation again this time, buddy. DrBulldog Sep 2015 #35

If you disagree with Sanders platform, then let's hear it. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #39

I'm always shocked Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #44

We see four or five of this level of OP posted every day AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #48

Its fun to bat him around, though Scootaloo Sep 2015 #60

My cat plays with mice the same way. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #68

I have never seen that happen, though. He is always in control R B Garr Sep 2015 #213

so you are saying don't feed him? m-lekktor Sep 2015 #64

There are advantages. sibelian Sep 2015 #189

There's no changing minds here Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #190

You are correct. sibelian Sep 2015 #191

+1 million geardaddy Sep 2015 #202

Sure there is. RichVRichV Sep 2015 #282

"far left"? Red-baiting destroyed the country's conscience twice over and literally destroyed MisterP Sep 2015 #45

This is Jr High school level whining here AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #46

Red bait much? Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #47

Sorry.You must be lashing out since Hillary is sliding in the polls Roland99 Sep 2015 #50

What a nice, positive, friendly comment. pangaia Sep 2015 #51

You're gonna hurt your hand zappaman Sep 2015 #53

Must be something in that Texas water that is messing with your perception of what is "fringe left." Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #57

If the far left is everywhere... it ain't the far left. You're center right. Fearless Sep 2015 #62

But who's on first? BeanMusical Sep 2015 #161

Far left? Now, now Comrade, we are the People's Party. jalan48 Sep 2015 #67

. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2015 #69

What Is Fringe? colsohlibgal Sep 2015 #70

Goodbye forever. nt valerief Sep 2015 #71

warning!!!! stupidicus Sep 2015 #72

Im glad I read down far enough to get to this post. bunnies Sep 2015 #196

Certainly got the feeding frenzy started aidbo Sep 2015 #197

Don't ever visit Europe Lorien Sep 2015 #73

What I have seen today posted sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #74

Far Left, (Scoffs) imthevicar Sep 2015 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #158

nice spoon you have there Hiraeth Sep 2015 #76

Someone from Texas making fun of Portland, Oregon. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #79

Texas was a while ago, and yeah, there are better places to live. DanTex Sep 2015 #82

Out of respect for Gibby Haynes, Steve Earle and James McMurtry, I'll leave it at that. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #88

I like hipsters. And hipsters here in NYC have a sense of humor about hipster-hood. DanTex Sep 2015 #96

In my experience people on the east coast overthink fucking everything, actually. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #107

Easy, there. No need to get all East Coast/West Coast over a little hipster joke. DanTex Sep 2015 #111

Believe me, I know from whence I speak. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #115

I picked Portland at random. Could just as easily have been Williamsburg. DanTex Sep 2015 #117

Aw, don't tell me that! I thought it was a subtly crafted shot directed specifically at yours truly. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #141

Never been to Portland but I've heard good things. DanTex Sep 2015 #173

...and some of us despise New York and LA. bvar22 Sep 2015 #241

Im with you. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #243

It's even worse than you think Jim Lane Sep 2015 #146

Ha! Hey, so does my mom. I mean, no offense intended. So did I, for way longer than i should have. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #162

Is Portland, OR too liberal for you? You that continually disparge something you call the Far Left. rhett o rick Sep 2015 #246

Not at all, I'm a liberal. DanTex Sep 2015 #248

I think we have a problem with definitions. You claim to be a liberal. Do you also claim that rhett o rick Sep 2015 #257

I don't agree with Hillary on everything (nor Bernie), but overall she's got a very good platform. DanTex Sep 2015 #258

Let's talk about rhetoric. Saying she wants to raise the min wage means literally nothing. How much rhett o rick Sep 2015 #259

Boo hoo. morningfog Sep 2015 #83

so happy to make you one of my few blocks ALBliberal Sep 2015 #85

I don't think that was me, but suit yourself. DanTex Sep 2015 #86

Well, that was boring. hatrack Sep 2015 #90

Is that you in the tie? Bonobo Sep 2015 #94

how is that different than critcizing Obama, Hillary or anyone else? Skittles Sep 2015 #101

Everybody is the US is seeing this. leftofcool Sep 2015 #103

The fringe left is kicking Hillary's butt in two states and Bernie is starting to work on a third. A Simple Game Sep 2015 #106

All you do is post unsupported negative characterizations of other Democrats. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #108

Argo.... HERVEPA Sep 2015 #110

What do you mean by fringe left? blackspade Sep 2015 #112

It's a term Glenn Beck uses. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #121

He is a fellow DU member, so I thought it would be.... blackspade Sep 2015 #145

A lot of us don't care what fascist say. Jappleseed Sep 2015 #113

Damn! I'm fringe left now! R. P. McMurphy Sep 2015 #118

Manny? Is that you? Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #120

No, Dan actually believes it. (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #126

That makes it even funnier. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #129

The "far left", eh? Why, that's so quaint!! RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #124

You seem to either have lost it or are drunk. Nt Logical Sep 2015 #134

The Russians Are Coming the Russians Are Coming! BeanMusical Sep 2015 #138

In other words... cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #147

Who exactlly is this far left that you hate so much? Who are the far left politicians? rhett o rick Sep 2015 #148

Far left? You sure it isn't the RNC pretending to be the far left? McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #151

Yes, the 90% of DU that CLAIMS to support Sanders are all really GOP plants, trolling the other 10%. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #163

I didn't think you would recognize me with this mustache. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #247

Me either! Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #249

Amazing. I get the feeling that most of DU consider redstateblues Sep 2015 #153

I get that feeling too. But it won't affect the GE much. The internet-far-left isn't representative DanTex Sep 2015 #172

"almost all of them will end up voting for Hillary in the GE anyway." 2banon Sep 2015 #180

I think they'll turn out. Maybe I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. DanTex Sep 2015 #181

"true idiots" 2banon Sep 2015 #226

More Free Trade, low taxes on the RICH, "Privatizing everything in sight (especially sham bvar22 Sep 2015 #253

"Far left" is an insult now? xfundy Sep 2015 #155

Your OP is flawed, but I'll fix it for you. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #156

+1 nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #165

I almost feel like you're just helping to condition us for the general. Thank you for giving us a Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #160

This is hilarious! R B Garr Sep 2015 #164

Guess who doesn't care what you think? nt Live and Learn Sep 2015 #166

Only corporate apologists think that there is such a thing as a 'far left" in the US n/t eridani Sep 2015 #168

Sad when middle class America is now called "far left" and in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #169

Your posts are amusing. Vinca Sep 2015 #170

Part of Hillary's Thx Box no doubt Fumesucker Sep 2015 #205

There was opposition research done on Gutierrez by someone here. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #176

The "Fringe" Left! Portland! OMG. You forgot Seattle, San Francisco New York 2banon Sep 2015 #177

Sorry, San Francisco, NY, Seattle, WE OUT-FRINGE YOU ##%##&$ERS, YES WEDOOO Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #233

Dan... sibelian Sep 2015 #184

Critique of Bernie here: treestar Sep 2015 #185

I respect your opinion twii Sep 2015 #186

Dude - why do you hate Bernie so much? You spend way too much time trashing him. n/t Avalux Sep 2015 #193

I like Bernie. Where did I trash him? DanTex Sep 2015 #194

OMG, you mean there're people on 'Twitter, Facebook, Reddit' who call others names? Sunlei Sep 2015 #198

I've had my share of being lashed at for speaking ill of Hillary on facebook. I have been unfriended m-lekktor Sep 2015 #204

if you criticize Bernie in any way, the far left will lash out at you all over the internet AlbertCat Sep 2015 #211

That was my point. DanTex Sep 2015 #212

So what happens if you criticize Hillary in any way? AlbertCat Sep 2015 #218

Then you become a hero of the right and the loony left. DanTex Sep 2015 #219

And get accused of all sorts of stupid stuff AlbertCat Sep 2015 #222

Yes, the Bernie cult of personality is strong. Hence the looniness. DanTex Sep 2015 #224

Hence the looniness. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #228

Can I just ask you a question as an observer in all of this? polly7 Sep 2015 #229

Well, for one, there's the way over-the-top bashing of anyone who isn't Bernie. DanTex Sep 2015 #232

I don't see that. polly7 Sep 2015 #235

You haven't, for example, seen Hillary called "GOP lite"? DanTex Sep 2015 #237

Haven't seen people freak, except for a few, again, who I won't mention. polly7 Sep 2015 #238

Free Trade, no Wall Street prosecutions, More War, protecting the RICH from tax increases.... bvar22 Sep 2015 #244

Dan being dan! nt Logical Sep 2015 #220

When did the far left represent social justice, I always thought JRLeft Sep 2015 #231

Some percentage of people people on the Internet act like assholes mythology Sep 2015 #250

Good news everyone MoveIt Sep 2015 #254

The difference I see here Blue_In_AK Sep 2015 #260

"Lash out?" Puglover Sep 2015 #261

Like the HC supporters at another website who stalked cali into a hide?: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #263

As much as this is gutless and slimy. Puglover Sep 2015 #266

Yup. It's the hypocrisy. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #267

Still tossing and donating and packing and Puglover Sep 2015 #269

Good advice! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #270

What site is that? aikoaiko Sep 2015 #276

This one: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #284

Does everyone here understand what a Persecution Complex is? bvar22 Sep 2015 #271

My trash can's really getting full tonight...*click* pinstikfartherin Sep 2015 #273

You have not been banned yet? PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #275

What you're calling the "far left" is something different. cheapdate Sep 2015 #277

Re vera, potas bene. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #278

'Far left'? 'Fringe'? TransitJohn Sep 2015 #283