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58. The perks of a civilized society?

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 04:21 PM

Jul 2012

That's the point here. When one takes advantage of the 'perks of a civilized society'; they didn't build that.

The proof that the infrastructure wouldn't exist is that it doesn't exist in 'uncivilized societies'. Somalia always comes to mind. Work your ass off; your profits are intercepted by warlords. Law enforcement is important also.

I'm sure there are a lot of people in 3rd world countries putting in long hours, and in no instance do paved roads spring into existence. If you've got a business on a dirt road that you've constructed; it won't be able to compete with the businesses that folks don't have to leave the hard surface to frequent.

You either don't have a point, or you're not effectively communicating it. It looks like option one to me.

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Saw this crap on Facebook and posted this response. [View all] WonderGrunion Jul 2012 OP

Great response DesertRat Jul 2012 #1

Well done! RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #2

I guess we should first see if Snoopy's is paying taxes and how much... progress2k12nbynd Jul 2012 #3

Roads require constant maintenance ... ThePhilosopher04 Jul 2012 #5

I'd want to see where he got his start-up money. JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #6

Is Snoopy's located in an area where snow falls in the winter? Does Snoopy's plow the public roads? NBachers Jul 2012 #10

just to play devil's advocate Riftaxe Jul 2012 #13

If you're claiming you did something without any help lolly Jul 2012 #16

if your claiming that roads, infrastructure would not exist Riftaxe Jul 2012 #18

The perks of a civilized society? Blanks Jul 2012 #58

I don't think most people would deny that� progress2k12nbynd Jul 2012 #37

I wonder nineteen50 Jul 2012 #46

Um...no. That's not the new meme jeff47 Jul 2012 #96

Yes gas taxes pay for roads Confusious Jul 2012 #106

Nobody is saying it would exist without him. RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #19

If you start your own business, the one thing that is guaranteed Riftaxe Jul 2012 #22

Not always. RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #23

The term you're looking for is "due diligence" baldguy Jul 2012 #34

+1 dmr Jul 2012 #45

+ 2 mac56 Jul 2012 #56

There is always a reason for regulation nineteen50 Jul 2012 #47

I own and run my own business. Hasn't happened to me, either. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #61

Count me among those who own a small business & haven't experienced any of these "strange laws" Doremus Jul 2012 #70

How is anyone screwed by these laws? treestar Jul 2012 #76

What a gawdawful pile of sophomoric elephant manure. TahitiNut Jul 2012 #94

I ran my own car detail shop in Miami for 9 years; did my own building maintenance business NBachers Jul 2012 #33

If not "Snoopy's", then something else. bvar22 Jul 2012 #39

I'm a small biz owner and I find that so offensive. Since WHEN does DU "shit" on small biz people? progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #42

Why would you insult DU with a bullshit statement like that? dmr Jul 2012 #48

LOL bongbong Jul 2012 #51

The only one without a clue is yourself abelenkpe Jul 2012 #55

Nobody is saying Snoopy didn't work hard! livingonearth Jul 2012 #57

I owned a business for years. You're a friggin' idiot. loudsue Jul 2012 #67

''Would snoopy's be in existence without the guy who started it?'' DeSwiss Jul 2012 #73

Somebody would have started something treestar Jul 2012 #75

you "sick son of a bitch".. iamthebandfanman Jul 2012 #78

I would take exception to your comment that this forum shits on small rurallib Jul 2012 #81

In what sense are small businesspeople being shit upon by democrats? lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #84

I'm a private citizen lolly Jul 2012 #17

Dont you see Dokkie Jul 2012 #68

So what? jeff47 Jul 2012 #97

At what point is he Dokkie Jul 2012 #100

Actually, the social contract is binding for life. jeff47 Jul 2012 #102

You're kidding right? Confusious Jul 2012 #108

So snoopy is the only guy on that road? Confusious Jul 2012 #107

The POINT is that NO business would exist without society AND the government. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #44

There was once a man WoodyM90 Jul 2012 #92

As an accountant, I can tell you no one pays that much of a tax burden... WCGreen Jul 2012 #52

You forgot to add ... ThePhilosopher04 Jul 2012 #4

I'm not so sure I could say federally funded police and teachers. That's a real stretch. SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jul 2012 #9

It was never designed to operate that way. The federal government SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jul 2012 #20

+1 A really well thought out response. Thanks. SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #26

Government is the prize nineteen50 Jul 2012 #49

The point isn't by what means a government service is provided bhikkhu Jul 2012 #21

I get it, really I do. I think we all forget that businesses pay taxes to provide infrastructure SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jul 2012 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jul 2012 #63

The small businesspersons I know, the mom and pops with less than ten employees, work hard, pay SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Jul 2012 #85

You wrote five paragraphs on how evil they are. Give me a break. SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #89

Really well stated, thanks. freshwest Jul 2012 #71

Actually, a huge portion of both LE and teacher funding comes from the Feds jeff47 Jul 2012 #98

But it shouldn't. Federal dollars should not be paying for local police and fire departments. SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #101

Considering that has been the case for more than 100 years... jeff47 Jul 2012 #103

So, you are saying that the federal government has been paying the salaries of local fire and police SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #104

No, I'm not. jeff47 Jul 2012 #105

No, the poster that I originally responded to said that. If you want to argue the point, ask him SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #109

Keep knocking down those strawmen jeff47 Jul 2012 #111

They are not federally funded in any appreciable way at all. Nice try to spin it. If you wanted to SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #112

Thanks a million. That was excellent, you covered it all! freshwest Jul 2012 #8

Snoopy's apparently relied on hfojvt Jul 2012 #11

+1 n/t n2doc Jul 2012 #59

We have to challenge all this crap on Facebook and the internet. Grantuspeace Jul 2012 #12

Hey, I think I'll open a Snoopys Veggie Dogs down the street from this guy demwing Jul 2012 #15

is that in nc? we have a snoopy's and that might be the side of the building Tunkamerica Jul 2012 #24

He'd be nowhere without his customers or his employees. intheflow Jul 2012 #27

And a bee would be nowhere without flowering plants Dokkie Jul 2012 #72

I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not. intheflow Jul 2012 #110

Just what the world needs Coyotl Jul 2012 #28

Greece is not a "small government nation" nxylas Jul 2012 #29

Steve Webb didn't create the infrastructure CJCRANE Jul 2012 #30

someone needs to educate dumbass at Snoopy's what the "--" means. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #41

Bravo! Fridays Child Jul 2012 #31

BAM!! Excellent response... hwmnbn Jul 2012 #32

Your response is perfect. May we C+P it? The Doctor. Jul 2012 #35

Please copy and paste WonderGrunion Jul 2012 #38

Did he make that sign too? And the letters that went on it? Did he teach himself to spell so he jillan Jul 2012 #36

Wanna bet Snoopy's got an SBA loan at some point?? progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #40

I had the same thought. knitter4democracy Jul 2012 #79

This proves their utter stupidity not listening to an entire statement. graywarrior Jul 2012 #43

USDA not FDA bl968 Jul 2012 #50

In other words Plucketeer Jul 2012 #53

REALLY like your use of parallelism in the repetition of "Snoopy's". Also a veryVERY strong closing! patrice Jul 2012 #54

I don't understand why all the whining Jake2413 Jul 2012 #62

I stopped talking to the elder stepson. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #64

The only thing that I dislike is that he doesn't say President Obama. It take away from the crimson77 Jul 2012 #65

It isn't a damned semantical argument demwing Jul 2012 #69

So what in your mind does a man like this owe? crimson77 Jul 2012 #74

Which debate do you want to have? demwing Jul 2012 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author crimson77 Jul 2012 #87

Hmmmm ! virgogal Jul 2012 #80

Thankyou Elizabeth Warren Whisp Jul 2012 #66

Up yours Snoopy's with relish and indepat Jul 2012 #83

A great response evilhime Jul 2012 #86

Snoopy's is perpetuating a Fox News lie- the "it" Obama was referring to was infrastructure. SunSeeker Jul 2012 #88

location larwdem Jul 2012 #90

Snoopy just figured out how to rake off obscene profits from the business Hoyt Jul 2012 #91

If it was me I would have probably added this to my response 47of74 Jul 2012 #93

applaud your response humbled_opinion Jul 2012 #95

No Man Is An Island Peaceful Protester Jul 2012 #99