2016 Postmortem

polly7

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Thu Sep 24, 2015, 08:27 AM

Sep 2015

they suddenly lose that ingrained white privilege. At least, that's what I've learned from reading here and over there. Poof! It disappears like magic, and they're now able to go all OTT accusing others who vote for someone they're afraid of winning of having it, including the candidate (among the other really disgusting things he's been accused of).

But it's simple ...... say you're voting one way, and you no longer have white privilege - it's like being born again.

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There is a concerted effort to make Sanders unacceptable to minorities [View all] cali Sep 2015 OP

Isn't it possible for people to think for themselves? Renew Deal Sep 2015 #1

That's not what she's talking about ibegurpard Sep 2015 #3

Yes it is. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #8

The very day he announced his candidacy Scootaloo Sep 2015 #22

Commentators on DU are not the "Clinton campaign" Renew Deal Sep 2015 #27

Guiterrez and The weiner were speaking as campaign surrogates Scootaloo Sep 2015 #32

Exactly, msrizzo Sep 2015 #35

Nope. That also must be a double standard! n/t mhatrw Sep 2015 #160

Do the math... gregcrawford Sep 2015 #86

Campaign surrogates, dude, campaign surrogates. That is why they exist. To say merrily Sep 2015 #115

Plausible deniability ..... haikugal Sep 2015 #259

Weeellll, not really all that plausible, when you have seen the m.o. before. merrily Sep 2015 #260

I was referencing how Bush/Cheney liked to do the same thing... haikugal Sep 2015 #263

Ah, I apologize for missing the Bush Cheney reference--but wasn't that Nixon? merrily Sep 2015 #264

I'd have to look... haikugal Sep 2015 #265

The media did it to Pat Quinn here in Illinois and we got Rauner Drale Sep 2015 #58

Fantastic post. merrily Sep 2015 #114

Have I told you that you're one of DU's best writers? MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #149

People have common sense and realize that Vermont is not that diverse, so that is going R B Garr Sep 2015 #151

You repeated yourself several times. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #155

Implying he is racist because most Vermonters are white is not analysis. It's bullshit. merrily Sep 2015 #157

Again. you studiously refuse to mention any issues or policies mhatrw Sep 2015 #161

This OP isn't about "issues." The "issue" I posted about is the "issue" in this OP N/T R B Garr Sep 2015 #227

So you admit that you do not prefer Clinton's stances mhatrw Sep 2015 #248

So you admit you didn't read the OP. R B Garr Sep 2015 #252

Maine is whiter than Vermont, yet President Obama received 59.30% in the 2008 Primary here. PotatoChip Sep 2015 #168

Oh, I guess we should have voted for Romney in last election because he came from a liberal state... cascadiance Sep 2015 #176

The two ideas are not exclusionary. Scuba Sep 2015 #131

It's not that simple. 840high Sep 2015 #217

There are many legitimate reasons peope might disagree with him or not like him Armstead Sep 2015 #9

Not to you... Renew Deal Sep 2015 #13

If it were a real discussion of that in real and specific terms, it could be legitimate Armstead Sep 2015 #24

And that is fine but that is also different than saying that jwirr Sep 2015 #106

yes. I believe hill supporters are doing some of this disgusting shit all on their own cali Sep 2015 #16

I think your post is dismissive of the very real concerns of minorities. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #21

yes, I'm sure you do. it is not. I'm not dismissing legitimate concerns from BLM cali Sep 2015 #25

You nailed it here. They can't think for themselves. Some truly believe that. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #50

You mean like the HC supporter who said Hillary owns minorities?: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #51

We could sit here and post links all day. Nice deflection. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #53

You mentioned supporters who say minorities can't think for themselves, I was just helping. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #55

I greatly appreciate your help and the fact you agree that it is in very bad form. nt. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #56

Yeah, Clinton's white supporters don't have any white privilege! mhatrw Sep 2015 #162

Of course it's possible, but realistically difficult given a 24-hour day. dogknob Sep 2015 #46

Oh yeah, just like the Koch brothers did for Walker. A Simple Game Sep 2015 #124

LOL! Plucketeer Sep 2015 #59

then lets talk policy restorefreedom Sep 2015 #76

They don't alienate just POC with this crap...they once a split in the party with it. haikugal Sep 2015 #262

It is almost as if some folks dont think some folks can think for themselves. randys1 Sep 2015 #77

Disingenuous. Again LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #228

Not really seeing how anyone can think for anyone ELSE.... sibelian Sep 2015 #79

Both are possible. The Clinton campaign can be pushing an agenda and people can think for themselves merrily Sep 2015 #113

Sure, like what? mhatrw Sep 2015 #159

And GDP is chock full of it, with new arrivals welcomed everyday with open arms. nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #2

Close, it should be 'There is a concerted effort to make Sanders unacceptable.... daleanime Sep 2015 #4

It is getting old, but it won't actually work virtualobserver Sep 2015 #5

Yes, there is! TM99 Sep 2015 #6

Woah hootinholler Sep 2015 #45

Here is my post in that thread. TM99 Sep 2015 #49

That says it all. hifiguy Sep 2015 #73

Bingo! HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #138

Well, it's not working from where I sit. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #7

The goal is for people to first hear of him as "the guy black people don't like" arcane1 Sep 2015 #14

The race-baiting trolling here has become a cartoon. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #10

It began on DAY ONE of his candidacy, too. And that includes right here on DU. arcane1 Sep 2015 #11

You are correct. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #17

That was the most despicable race baiting op I've seen in a long time. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #23

Good lord, I missed that gem entirely. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #28

This one was even worse - anti-Semitic and uses racial slurs to calls Bernie a racist: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #31

Hillary's racist 2008 campaign nearly ripped this site apart & they are doubling down on the ugly. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #43

And we're labeled bullies for calling them out on it this time around. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #44

But, but, but bmus, hifiguy Sep 2015 #75

Tired of this bullshit. We have every right to defend our candidate against smears. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #89

They're so desperate and demented hifiguy Sep 2015 #99

+1. yep. GoneFishin Sep 2015 #146

Good grief. SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #97

The anti-Semitism is even worse at hillaryclintonsupporters.com beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #100

have to register as a Clinton supporter to view that site grasswire Sep 2015 #135

They hid the site after it was exposed here. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #137

I've ignored that poster for a looooonnnnnngggg time. Maedhros Sep 2015 #36

Good choice, many others have done the same thing. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #38

Wow. Missed it. sibelian Sep 2015 #88

There have been others but that was the most notorious example. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #91

I still don't have her on ignore. sibelian Sep 2015 #93

I don't have anyone on ignore. I prefer to see what they're up to and call it out. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #96

And you miss whole subthreads. SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #98

Oh DU is fascinating if you're paying attention. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #103

Same here. hifiguy Sep 2015 #101

Exactly. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #104

Oh, I used to do that... sibelian Sep 2015 #110

You're horrible in an awesomely wicked kind of way. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #111

awwww, STOP iiiiit... sibelian Sep 2015 #175

I get too angry without ignore. I'm afraid for my health and wellbeing without it. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #133

Their hatred inspires me. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #134

Your "Rant By a HRH Supporter" hifiguy Sep 2015 #105

... 'tis here, kind sir. sibelian Sep 2015 #179

Thanks. That I am bookmarking. hifiguy Sep 2015 #243

Oh....her JackInGreen Sep 2015 #152

Ack. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #209

I've done that too! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #236

Wow! I never saw that one! cui bono Sep 2015 #273

That was actually a blog post that was copied onto DU. jeff47 Sep 2015 #61

Yet they are still allowed to post. hifiguy Sep 2015 #74

Yep another spate of race baiting threads today AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #12

And they alert stalked cali into a time-out MoveIt Sep 2015 #215

Hi cali, NCTraveler Sep 2015 #15

It started the day he announced he was running and never slowed down beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #18

I don't know if Clinton is behind it, but I agree with you that it is sick and disgusting. Vattel Sep 2015 #19

If one asks "cui bono?" there is really only one answer...[n/t] Maedhros Sep 2015 #37

Yes! Don't those minorities know he marched with MLK??? zappaman Sep 2015 #20

thanks for the illustration. And try reading cali Sep 2015 #29

No, most of them do not know this kind of information TM99 Sep 2015 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author YoungDemCA Sep 2015 #253

There what is? TM99 Sep 2015 #256

Forgive me, I think I understand where you're coming from now YoungDemCA Sep 2015 #257

It is ok, really. TM99 Sep 2015 #258

Sanders supporters did their own damage and earned their reputation with their behavior on Twitter Metric System Sep 2015 #26

bullshit. the lying started the minute he announced. And it hasn't just been about cali Sep 2015 #33

Of course, those billionaires don't have enough money to pay people to troll twitter. Skwmom Sep 2015 #34

And you know those are Sanders supporters because? HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #39

Yep, the Clintons hired people to pose as Sanders supporters all over Facebook, Twitter, etc. during Metric System Sep 2015 #64

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. sibelian Sep 2015 #95

Save some of that tinfoil for the oven! Metric System Sep 2015 #130

lol! sibelian Sep 2015 #172

Well one of them was Sabrina1 - she posted about it here. Do you deny she is a Bernie supporter? n/t seaglass Sep 2015 #65

You're saying Sabrina was mean to peep on Twitter? HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #136

We all know that being mean TM99 Sep 2015 #141

sabrina1 mean??? polly7 Sep 2015 #170

"Taze her. Taze her." Being yelled at Marissa NCTraveler Sep 2015 #52

You have links to prove these assertions right? TM99 Sep 2015 #178

The video and audio have been posted her over and over again. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #180

I have seen the videos. TM99 Sep 2015 #187

Dismiss facts and that wich is in front of you all you want. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #189

That was her claim, yes, in the interview TM99 Sep 2015 #191

You are one hundred percent wrong. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #193

No, it is not in the audio that I linked. TM99 Sep 2015 #194

Your complete dismissal of the facts is noted. Thanks. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #196

We are done here. TM99 Sep 2015 #197

I contend we have a RIGHT to respond to those leveling INSULTS towards us... cascadiance Sep 2015 #181

I stand with Marissa. Have since the beginning. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #183

People are going to call out racism. Most of us were calling out HER racism!!! cascadiance Sep 2015 #184

"Most of us were calling out HER racism!!!!" NCTraveler Sep 2015 #186

No, I am NOT calling POC racist, I'm calling that INDIVIDUAL racist for her racist words! cascadiance Sep 2015 #210

Reverse racism. Yeah. Think what you like. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #211

I don't support the white lady yelling "tase her"... cascadiance Sep 2015 #212

This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Sep 2015 #213

No plans at all of debating the concept of reverse racism. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #214

A little more of the person you are calling a racist. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #218

I said she made a racist comment (or call it bigoted if you want to be picky)... cascadiance Sep 2015 #224

The comments in these threads Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #219

Yyyyyeaaaaah... sibelian Sep 2015 #92

Newsflash: Most White People Suffer From White Privilege mhatrw Sep 2015 #163

But polly7 Sep 2015 #169

It appears to be organized. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #30

It's two prong - turn off minorities and turn off whites. You get a lot of bang for the buck. Skwmom Sep 2015 #40

How much of this well-poisoning there is, I don't know. But the biggest... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #60

There is a lot... Skwmom Sep 2015 #90

I don't there is such an effort. Nitram Sep 2015 #41

It's one of the many problem in all of politics today. ion_theory Sep 2015 #47

Yup. Peace Patriot Sep 2015 #48

More war on Christmas. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #54

"LEAVE HILLARY ALONE!" some cry, while at the same time trashing a good man's name. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #70

This was the first time I've ever seen NYC liberals moving to Vermont described as "white flight"! reformist2 Sep 2015 #57

Does seem a tetch peculiar. I can see a vacation home. But Sanders? Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #62

White families moving from the Bronx to Westchester or New Jersey - that was white flight. reformist2 Sep 2015 #63

My reading, too. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #66

Yes, it's usually reserved for migration within a metro area jfern Sep 2015 #112

It seems like Clinton only learned one thing from 2008 jeff47 Sep 2015 #67

It's Trickle Down... SoapBox Sep 2015 #68

There is also an issue. iandhr Sep 2015 #69

The problems with that is that on twitter or other social media people self identify as they wish Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #78

No doubt iandhr Sep 2015 #118

thanks for helping illustrate the point ReactFlux Sep 2015 #116

People are pointing out a pattern that exists on DU as well as the real world Gothmog Sep 2015 #71

Yes, you've said that before. sibelian Sep 2015 #83

Lets see how Sanders does in states where there are less than 90+$ white voting populations Gothmog Sep 2015 #107

... I'm sure we'll find out. sibelian Sep 2015 #171

Yes we will Gothmog Sep 2015 #173

How, specifically, would you like us to behave? What are some examples of the more active Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #84

I was told by a Sanders supporter that I am bad parent because my daughters are supporting Clinton Gothmog Sep 2015 #102

The AA forum wasn't attacked. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #142

Have you heard of the concept of alert swarming? Gothmog Sep 2015 #143

Yes, but it still has to get by 35 jurors and a review... HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #145

I sure have. polly7 Sep 2015 #167

How many times does Skinner have to say that alert stalking is a myth? winter is coming Sep 2015 #250

I am supporting Clinton but I like many of the ideas and positions of Sanders Gothmog Sep 2015 #109

You just praised and defended Froma Harrop - a racist who called Obama an "exotic" on another thread beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #122

In light of recent postings I'm disinclined to believe your are posting in good faith. Thanks for Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #129

You are proving the main point made in the article that is the subject of this this thread Gothmog Sep 2015 #139

You mean the article by a RACIST RIGHT WING HACK that a HC supporter posted here? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #144

And yet you support using Prof. West as a surrogate for the Sanders Campaign Gothmog Sep 2015 #166

Beam Me Up Scottie has it right. Maedhros Sep 2015 #208

I do not agree with your claims Gothmog Sep 2015 #220

Yep, that one is not worth responding to. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #229

That, and he killed my dad! Maedhros Sep 2015 #238

Did you see this comment from our friend?: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #244

Blatantly lying and distorting facts in service of their personality cult. [n/t] Maedhros Sep 2015 #249

Wow LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #266

No problem. People who count dark faces in crowds worry me. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #267

Sub-thread win! historylovr Sep 2015 #251

He died well! Maedhros Sep 2015 #261

You apparently missed that. No longer interested, boy who cried wolf. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #150

That would also apply to the Clinton Movement then Armstead Sep 2015 #216

Really? Gothmog Sep 2015 #230

Really Armstead Sep 2015 #235

Again, you may want to look into the concept of projection Gothmog Sep 2015 #255

It started right here on DU a couple of days before hifiguy Sep 2015 #72

Cant WAIT to see who President Rubio appoints to replace Justice Kennedy. randys1 Sep 2015 #80

Really? Your best answer to people pushing a false narrative about Sanders and racism is LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #185

I am just looking ahead to the inevitability. randys1 Sep 2015 #199

Correct me if I am wrong here, but what you are saying is LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #200

WTF ?? I am not talking about the outrage of the day, you see, I am a big picture randys1 Sep 2015 #201

Ok, so we both think that in general it is a much better idea to support Democrats than Republicans LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #202

Show me where Clinton supporters are painting Bernie as racist. randys1 Sep 2015 #203

Ah, ok, I see LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #204

Don't worry, Bernie's got soul. Minorities will see through the mud. MasonDreams Sep 2015 #81

Well, what I got out of it SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #82

It won't work. It's just an act of desperation. eom NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #85

No RandySF Sep 2015 #87

Bernie supporters are so off base workinclasszero Sep 2015 #94

feeling the bern, eh? ReactFlux Sep 2015 #119

Whatever you say workinclasszero Sep 2015 #128

From your reactions JackInGreen Sep 2015 #154

Right... ismnotwasm Sep 2015 #108

^^THIS^^ Lisa D Sep 2015 #140

All advertising and all propaganda are attempts to pursuade LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #190

I, too, am . . . Gamecock Lefty Sep 2015 #117

... ReactFlux Sep 2015 #120

Well, if you don't understand what the words "oligarchy, wall street, third way" mean, bvar22 Sep 2015 #125

Translation make America more corporate JRLeft Sep 2015 #126

LOL nt arely staircase Sep 2015 #121

Yep. Anyone who plays that dirty knows they can't win an honest contest. senz Sep 2015 #123

NO SHIT. mmonk Sep 2015 #127

From day one Babel_17 Sep 2015 #132

IMO, there is zero chance Corporate Hillary would have considered Sanders for the VP slot LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #192

Serious consideration? No, not likely Babel_17 Sep 2015 #198

Got it. I misunderstood your point originally LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #232

I see how it could be taken either way Babel_17 Sep 2015 #247

Yep. I am sure some of the shit stirrers are paid while others just really want Hillary to get the GoneFishin Sep 2015 #147

duh Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #148

Neither Hillary nor Bernie is responsible. RandySF Sep 2015 #153

the attacks began almost instantly when Bernie announced his candidacy azurnoir Sep 2015 #156

The recipe is simple. mhatrw Sep 2015 #158

Yes. Unfortunately it's largely Sanders' supporters who are doing it (nt) Recursion Sep 2015 #164

For real. romanic Sep 2015 #165

Yes, and that "concerted effort" is being done by Sanders himself. George II Sep 2015 #174

"Hardworking Americans, white Americans" are his ONLY supporters....... Indepatriot Sep 2015 #177

You know "They're" using TP Tactics fredamae Sep 2015 #182

The OP title laughable at best uponit7771 Sep 2015 #188

They are using Karl Rove's playbook. Make a strength into a weakness. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #195

Agreed grahamhgreen Sep 2015 #205

There is a concerted effort to blame the Clinton campaign for Bernie's minority problems. DCBob Sep 2015 #206

some clinton supporters are 100% behind this effort here noiretextatique Sep 2015 #222

If Hillary didn't have a history of using racist dog whistles she might not get such criticism LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #234

Ya think? It's more a symphonic effort. valerief Sep 2015 #207

�For me it's just noise. An insolent noise.� Herbert Greenleaf. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #221

Well, if Beethoven had written his marvelous Eighth Symphony hifiguy Sep 2015 #245

i cannot disagree noiretextatique Sep 2015 #223

Maybe minority voters are making up their own minds? Please consider that. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #225

This coming from the person who said blacks and other minorites "belong to Clinton"? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #231

That was an analysis, not propo aimed at voters. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #239

Nice dodge but your op was classic entitlement. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #241

All supporters of all candidates try to convince others .... Armstead Sep 2015 #237

Most of the people doing this on DU are, themselves, white. nt Romulox Sep 2015 #226

Yes there is, it's clear to see and getting clearer everyday. Autumn Sep 2015 #233

Excuse me? Did anyone hold a gun to Sander's head and force him to accept the support of McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #240

White HC supporters are the ones who are the most "outraged" about West's support of Bernie. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #242

And I think those are the one's stirring this up when you consider that Autumn Sep 2015 #269

Only poc who support Hillary are acceptable. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #270

No I do not excuse you. Dr. West has every fucking right to say whatever Autumn Sep 2015 #246

NO politician in the history of the world has been 100% consistent,. Not even close. YoungDemCA Sep 2015 #254

No one is asking for anyone to be 100% consistent so your post does not Autumn Sep 2015 #268

I've bee watching this talking point for a while now sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #271

Definitely initiated and perpetuated by the Hillary campaign sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #272