2016 Postmortem

Gothmog

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89. Good post

Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:08 PM

Sep 2015

Control of the SCOTUS is up for grabs and the person who wins in 2016 will likely get to select three or four justices to SCOTUS which will control the direction of the SCOTUS for a generation http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/perry-identifies-the-top-issue-the-2016-race

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I am basing my support on viability. We are in the primary process and each person should base their support on the criterion that they deem appropriate. Sanders is closer to my positions according to the online test/quiz but I do not believe that he is viable in a general election contest where the Kochs will be spending $887 million and the RNC candidate will be spending another billio dollars.

The only practical way to deal with Citizens United is to win in 2016 and then appoint SCOTUS justices who will vote against Citizens United. That means that a Democrat has to win which means that viability is a key factor

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There Are No Perfect Candidates for the Democratic Nomination. [View all] MineralMan Sep 2015 OP

of course not. they are people - hence imperfect, flawed. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2015 #1

this looks to be very hearftfelt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #2

It is. I'm tired of seeing DUers put on timeouts already. MineralMan Sep 2015 #6

Enjoyed reading this. Thanks. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #3

We do, however, need to hold their feet to the fire NV Whino Sep 2015 #4

Hmm... MineralMan Sep 2015 #7

I'm listening, aspirant Sep 2015 #11

Hill? If by that you mean Hillary Clinton, MineralMan Sep 2015 #17

Hmmmm..... aspirant Sep 2015 #20

Again, I do not know exactly. MineralMan Sep 2015 #21

Hmmm... aspirant Sep 2015 #23

I explained why I changed my primary preference already. MineralMan Sep 2015 #25

Hmm.... aspirant Sep 2015 #32

I have replied to you more than once in this thread. MineralMan Sep 2015 #33

You stated aspirant Sep 2015 #36

No time limit. I do have a limit on how many MineralMan Sep 2015 #42

An issue question: aspirant Sep 2015 #44

You already asked that question. Have you forgotten? MineralMan Sep 2015 #51

actually the president according to the Constitution is the enforcer of laws questionseverything Sep 2015 #55

Actually, that job is relegated to the justice department. MineralMan Sep 2015 #76

where in the Constitution does it discuss the justice department? questionseverything Sep 2015 #79

Reading comprehension is necessary aspirant Sep 2015 #57

Very poor logic, IMHO Brock Kentman Sep 2015 #77

Technically speaking... cheapdate Sep 2015 #82

True, but the premise won't go the way MineralMan thinks Brock Kentman Sep 2015 #85

I've had my ass handed to me more than once cheapdate Sep 2015 #90

Hillary is Satan , Sanders is not!!! uponit7771 Sep 2015 #5

Uff da! MineralMan Sep 2015 #10

You said about aspirant Sep 2015 #37

You need to read more closely, please. MineralMan Sep 2015 #40

Reading closely aspirant Sep 2015 #50

There are no restriction on your replies, of course. MineralMan Sep 2015 #52

It's reading your words and responding in my words, aspirant Sep 2015 #59

I'm for Sanders but I'd be happy with any of them. hollowdweller Sep 2015 #8

We will have a nominee. MineralMan Sep 2015 #9

But there ARE much better candidates and not so good candidates. 99Forever Sep 2015 #12

You will, of course, do as you please. MineralMan Sep 2015 #14

and your opinion may not be shared either. 99Forever Sep 2015 #19

I think we'll never know what "We the People" want, since MineralMan Sep 2015 #28

You run with that. 99Forever Sep 2015 #30

Talk to me after the election, OK? MineralMan Sep 2015 #31

That's why I voted for Nader in 2000 hollowdweller Sep 2015 #54

Errmagerd! 99Forever Sep 2015 #74

Of course not but it doesn't at all follow that they are equally flawed. TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #13

Flaws and strengths are measured by the opinions of MineralMan Sep 2015 #16

we had an extremely nasty, drag-out primary process in 2008, and our candidate won. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #15

Here's the thing, Warren: MineralMan Sep 2015 #18

"a number of prominent DUers get time-outs for their inability to control their language and posts" Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #72

No doubt. Sensible people adapt their words to MineralMan Sep 2015 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Sep 2015 #22

Here is a novel idea! How about telling us WHY you support the policy solutions of Hillary NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #24

Not in this thread, no. I'll be doing that in many threads, though. MineralMan Sep 2015 #26

LOL. nt Romulox Sep 2015 #49

Very thoughtful, Romulox. MineralMan Sep 2015 #63

No less thoughtful than the post to which I responded. Romulox Sep 2015 #65

Perhaps it was hung on Obama because NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #61

Gosh! I'm surprised it hasn't been implemented, then. MineralMan Sep 2015 #64

Yes, you're missing the point that He, NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #66

I'm not missing any point at all. MineralMan Sep 2015 #71

Dodge. That's a clear dodge. Brock Kentman Sep 2015 #78

I have no idea who you are. MineralMan Sep 2015 #83

He hung that dead fish on himself and the party dealing a huge blow to our trust advantage TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #84

Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play? n/t RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #27

I've seen that play, actually. It's rather boring and dated. MineralMan Sep 2015 #29

Thanks, MM. Gutenberg is amazing, isn't it? RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #34

I very rarely listen to audiobooks. They move far too slowly MineralMan Sep 2015 #35

I can see your point RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #38

I almost never drive more than an hour. MineralMan Sep 2015 #39

The establishment Democrats would rather lose to a Republican than win with a left populist Fumesucker Sep 2015 #41

I have seen no evidence of such a thing. MineralMan Sep 2015 #43

It will. It backed away from Obama and did only enough to not appear oppositional. I saw it. ancianita Sep 2015 #46

We should know not to make the perfect the enemy of the good. The map of goodness we work ancianita Sep 2015 #45

Thanks for your reply. You're right, of course. MineralMan Sep 2015 #48

The OP is, himself, a full-throated partisan. So this post rings more than a little hollow. nt Romulox Sep 2015 #47

I see the OP as a statement of what to remember as we game hard in the primaries. nt ancianita Sep 2015 #60

As always, it's easy for a "centrist" to be pleased with the Status Quo. Romulox Sep 2015 #62

I didn't get that at all from the OP DFW Sep 2015 #70

Were you talking to me in the third person? MineralMan Sep 2015 #68

I was speaking to the group. This is a discussion forum. Romulox Sep 2015 #69

Yes. I'm supporting Clinton in the primaries. MineralMan Sep 2015 #73

And which issues does Hillary excel at Brock Kentman Sep 2015 #80

K &R Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #53

If we vote for status quo at this crossroads, we are voting for republican economic policy going Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #56

I agree. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #67

This is a nice post. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #58

Paul Wellstone was perfect Reter Sep 2015 #81

I am still sad Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #87

Great post, MM, thank you for your wise words. greatlaurel Sep 2015 #86

Thanks for your reply. You clearly understood my post. MineralMan Sep 2015 #91

You are very welcome. I am shocked at the number of people who do not understand the concept. greatlaurel Sep 2015 #92

Agreed. lib87 Sep 2015 #88

Good post Gothmog Sep 2015 #89