2016 Postmortem

George II

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210. You want ME to explain something that isn't true? Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

Reply to beam me up scottie (Reply #202)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:32 AM

Sep 2015

Do you have any idea how many Americans and/or Israelis have dual American/Israeli citizenship? Do you have any idea how many Americans have emigrated to Israel over the years, proudly retaining their American citizenship while gaining Israeli citizenship.

Tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands.

EVERY one of them have "dual loyalty" and are proud and patriotic (to BOTH countries) about that.

Instead of instructing others to go and "google" stuff that you can't explain (yet still postulate about), I suggest that YOU do some research into the subject before you make blatantly false accusations based on lack of knowledge and understanding.

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The racist and anti-Semitic plays coming from Bernie haters are just a repeat of 2008 [View all] Catherina Sep 2015 OP

She exploded on Obama? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #1

Twitter is where I found it today, people with long memories are going to make sure Catherina Sep 2015 #12

I So Hope You're Correct! ChiciB1 Sep 2015 #168

You tie a story from 2008 to Hillary supporters upaloopa Sep 2015 #2

None of you hate Bernie? Then explain these posts: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #5

Let them keep doing it. People are too smart for this garbage now. The more they attack him the more sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #138

A lot of eyes have been opened here in the last 2 days. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #140

It was obvious from early on where all this was coming from. Bernie just kept on telling the truth sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #141

Thanks for your work in compiling that appalling collection. Jim Lane Sep 2015 #183

You're welcome. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #185

Have you heard of the concept of projection? Gothmog Sep 2015 #229

Thanks for kicking this, it's alway good to expose the Bernie haters for who the really are. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #230

I do not hate Sanders Gothmog Sep 2015 #233

The posters who said those vile things do, you're just making excuses for them. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #235

Again, you are projecting Gothmog Sep 2015 #250

So you're still claiming that accusations of divided loyalty aren't anti-Semitic? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #251

Are you Jewish? Gothmog Sep 2015 #255

Why don't you tell that to the Jewish DUers who agreed with me and posted in my thread? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #256

So you are not Jewish Gothmog Sep 2015 #257

Don't flatter yourself, I don't put people on ignore. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #258

I am. At least, in terms of heritage, if not Theistic belief. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #260

You are entitled to your opinion and I will run this silly claim by the ADL Gothmog Sep 2015 #262

I quoted Abe Foxman from the ADL in my op and he wasn't laughing: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #264

I was not aware that NPR was part of the Clinton campaign team Gothmog Sep 2015 #265

Straw man, red herring, guilt by association. You're on a roll tonight! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #266

Why is calling West a surrogate is offensive??? Gothmog Sep 2015 #267

Because he's not a surrogate for anyone. And you didn't address my points. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #272

Have you told the Sanders campaign about this? Gothmog Sep 2015 #274

Perhaps you can explain how Dr. West is a racist, you dodged that one last time. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #278

The ADL? I suspect they will correct you, actually. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #268

I am talking about the silly claims on this board that the NPR is a surrogate for the Clinton campa Gothmog Sep 2015 #269

That's funny, upthread it sure looked like you were arguing that charges of dual loyalty aren't Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #270

I read the claims/charges upstream Gothmog Sep 2015 #275

Who said that NPR and Diane Rehm are surrogates for the Clinton campaign? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #271

Read your own post Gothmog Sep 2015 #273

I did, still not seeing where I said that. Post the quote, thanks. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #277

I made a thread asking duers if they would support applegrove Sep 2015 #232

I will support the Democratic Nominee no matter what Gothmog Sep 2015 #234

Great. applegrove Sep 2015 #237

I am several mailing lists and so I forward to a Texas Sanders supporter material when I get it Gothmog Sep 2015 #252

I love data like that, so scientificky! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #239

A yes is the answer DUERS should give as Democratic supporters. applegrove Sep 2015 #241

Why is a Canadian here lecturing us on how to vote? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #243

Because my current prime minister came out of the 'Calgary applegrove Sep 2015 #246

And yet you still don't get why Americans hate loyalty oaths. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #247

And you do not understand the basic membership idea behind this discussion forum. applegrove Sep 2015 #248

Do you? We don't need to get behind the Dem nominee until the primaries are over. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #249

Loyalty pledges are very annoying. 840high Sep 2015 #279

Loyalty to the Democratic Party. Annoying? applegrove Sep 2015 #280

Not at all - just internet 840high Sep 2015 #281

"I remember the 1972 election too well" and if it was still 1972, that experience might be relevant. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #261

I volunteered in the McGovern campaign and remember it well Gothmog Sep 2015 #263

Not saying you don't remember it. I'm saying it is as relevant to '16 as Herbert Hoover was to '72 Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #284

I disagree strongly Gothmog Sep 2015 #285

which makes for a fine bumper sticker. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #286

Kerry was doing great until Bin Ladin endorsed Bush four days before the eleciton Gothmog Sep 2015 #287

I don't think that's an accurate political analysis. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #288

I saw your other site SwampG8r Sep 2015 #42

"Mis-speaking" (sic) is not a "euphemism". OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #51

I learn something new every day SwampG8r Sep 2015 #52

Which has what to do with what? 99Forever Sep 2015 #61

Do you give a shit or not? OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #68

Why ask me? 99Forever Sep 2015 #74

+1 n/t Aerows Sep 2015 #90

"Misspeaking" is a euphemism Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #118

Typically not. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #135

When it comes to politicians, it often is Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #143

Yes. Usually incorrectly. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #144

Good. So stories about Hillary's deficit on trustworthiness are misspoken. delrem Sep 2015 #162

"Remember, it is not a lie bvar22 Sep 2015 #189

Maybe that applies to the imagination of being under sniper fire davidpdx Sep 2015 #192

Lying , of course.... PosterChild Sep 2015 #190

Euphamisms can be comprised of single words or phrases. Ergo, euphemisms ARE words. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #95

Yes, that was very clumsy of me. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #127

Oh, it could be a euphamism for any number of words, e.g., dissembled. nt DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #132

No. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #139

And THAT's why it's a euphamism. It's a euphamism with a wink and a nod. nt DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #142

"It's not a euphemism, it's a word". Bonobo Sep 2015 #107

I'm happy, for a change, to play the idiot. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #129

I am Jewish and I have read the material on that site Gothmog Sep 2015 #231

Not true at all. I saw 840high Sep 2015 #58

"I saw your other site before it became members only." DJ13 Sep 2015 #117

Thaaaats why I couldn't get back in? JackInGreen Sep 2015 #165

I could watch this all day long. AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #188

As did I. hifiguy Sep 2015 #178

I visited your other board for the first time today. magical thyme Sep 2015 #71

Where is this website? DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #97

correction: hillaryclintonsupporters.com nt magical thyme Sep 2015 #106

actually Aerows Sep 2015 #109

Thanks, Aerows. I was wondering why I was having such a hard time reaching the site. nt DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #113

And another reply, now that I've seen the forums at the site. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #114

Just be cautious TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #126

Thank you for the warning. Someone else also warned me privately. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #134

They got me in the GDP for speaking the truth TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #146

You can blacklist a certain number of posters from your juries Fumesucker Sep 2015 #150

Thank you for the information . TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #159

Everyone can blacklist 5 members from their jury pool. HubertHeaver Sep 2015 #179

Several posters there are MIRT on DU. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #180

You can put up 15 names on the jury blacklist sarge43 Sep 2015 #225

5 if they don't have a star. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #226

I sit corrected. Thanks sarge43 Sep 2015 #227

Oh, yes indeedy. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #228

Tell me about it sarge43 Sep 2015 #236

LOL! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #238

Yeah sarge43 Sep 2015 #240

My dad told me a funny story. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #242

I bet it was a second looie's idea and SgtMaj just rolled his eyes. "He'll learn." sarge43 Sep 2015 #244

You got it! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #245

Thanks for the laugh. 'Night. n/t sarge43 Sep 2015 #253

Have a good one! :) beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #254

Quote. This is "OPEN FUCKING SEASON. Let's do this thing." End Quote. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #151

Ah. The jury alert setup. Can you at least articulate what you mean, beyond "wow"? DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #154

I had a post written sheshe2 Sep 2015 #156

Sorry to hear all of that, but I'm not withdrawing my point. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #157

Good to hear! sheshe2 Sep 2015 #158

Sheshe, I genuinely like arguing politics sometimes. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #160

Good thing, too. sibelian Sep 2015 #197

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Lychee2 Sep 2015 #170

You survived, 0-7 Jim Lane Sep 2015 #171

Thank you, Jim. I apreciate you letting me know about this. nt DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #174

Wow, you called that one davidpdx Sep 2015 #193

I agree. nt. sibelian Sep 2015 #199

Thanks. I can't browse to it. I see a WHOIS record, but when I do an nslookup, I get NXDOMAIN. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #112

here's a direct link into one of the "nicer" posts in the forum magical thyme Sep 2015 #115

What a huge load of shit. Brock Kentman Sep 2015 #124

Are you talking about the one that was posted on DU first? sheshe2 Sep 2015 #152

No the thread where a poster said Bernie had a nest egg waiting for him in Israel. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #153

It was from the comments section. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #161

Nice try but the comments about being funded by Israel were made at your website. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #164

It's their own version of 'birtherism' AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #175

I was thinking the same thing! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #176

Wow! TM99 Sep 2015 #163

Oh cool! Aerows Sep 2015 #116

Alas, there aren't many open relays left on tcp/25 (and no MX record for the dead domain in question DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #119

Hell, I don't even have kids Aerows Sep 2015 #120

I mean an open tcp/25 n/t Aerows Sep 2015 #121

My son just came from door knocking in Springfield.....Fucking Ohio....the only state that matters. sgtbenobo Sep 2015 #282

If she can't control her campaign, she isn't fit to control the country. roguevalley Sep 2015 #94

Here's another piece of right-wing garbage posted by a Hillary Clinton supporter davidpdx Sep 2015 #191

And yet her hired her to be Secretary Of State. emulatorloo Sep 2015 #3

You've heard of keeping your enemies closer. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #7

And he's also not falling all over himself to help her get the nomination, is he? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #11

Of course there is. 840high Sep 2015 #59

when she impugned his character and used others including her dudly husband to roguevalley Sep 2015 #96

So would I. 840high Sep 2015 #123

So Obama isn't part of the conspiracy to elect Clinton? JoePhilly Sep 2015 #216

I dont know, man, did you have that conversation with me? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #218

I thought he did that so she wouldn't run against him in 2012. nt artislife Sep 2015 #37

Yup. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #57

O blocked her in '12. She'll run every 4 yrs. while there's a breath in her body. Divernan Sep 2015 #98

Do you think there could be a zombie Clinton artislife Sep 2015 #111

I thought Nixon was obsessed with the presidency. hifiguy Sep 2015 #181

the Clintons were very powerful politically. Now he's pushing Biden to run. magical thyme Sep 2015 #66

Not to mention repressed rage and a hair-trigger temper. Divernan Sep 2015 #100

The SOS post was her price for withdrawing. leveymg Sep 2015 #88

If you are referring to an OP by a Hillary supporter which did not contain any reference of racists Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #4

I linked one below. Aerows Sep 2015 #9

All this wailing about "Bernie Haters" being "anti-Semitic" are just phony ploys to rile up.... George II Sep 2015 #6

Of course there are no examples.... revmclaren Sep 2015 #10

Here's one: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #14

HOW is that "anti-Semitic"? And don't use one of your typical "you tell me" responses.... George II Sep 2015 #21

How is saying that Bernie has a nest egg waiting for him in Israel anti-Semitic? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #22

If he really had one there, that would be one thing 6chars Sep 2015 #64

Just suggesting it is anti-Semitic. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #69

Still piling on your unexplained theories? So tell us......... George II Sep 2015 #200

Suggesting he's funded by Israel (which is an accusation of dual loyalty) isn't anti-Semitic? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #202

You want ME to explain something that isn't true? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. George II Sep 2015 #210

If you can't be bothered to read the information posted by Warren you don't want to know. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #212

Do you come from a Jewish family, George? Because I do. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #219

Thanks again, Warren. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #221

I'm VERY familiar with what anti-Semetism is, thank you. Even though... George II Sep 2015 #196

Dual loyalty, George, like Warren explained to you in post #27: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #198

Plain ignorance combined with brass neck. sibelian Sep 2015 #203

He's something, isn't he? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #205

Hehehe! sibelian Sep 2015 #206

I doubt he'll be back now that I'm not the only one calling him out. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #208

So where IS that claim of "dual loyalty" and, if it exists the context in which it was said? George II Sep 2015 #211

Dog Whistles- an Anti-Semitism Primer (a timely repost) beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #214

But you still haven't show us WHERE the anti-Semitic post/comment was. You're just going around... George II Sep 2015 #215

Yes, I did. And I'm going to keep explaining it, because you're wrong. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #220

I wonder if he'll try to make the same argument in my thread? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #222

It's kind of like how paid petroleum industry nabobs deal with global warming. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #223

Exactly! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #224

Specific: Because Charges of "Dual Loyalty" are a well-known anti-semitic trope. That's how. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #27

Thank you. I have no patience for people who dismiss and ignore bigotry. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #43

"where's the Anti-Semitism" seems to come up, a lot. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #49

Like when Fox news tried to say the Charleston shooter was attacking Christians instead of blacks. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #54

Hmmmm. Gentile privilege? sibelian Sep 2015 #194

Given your ridiculous attitude towards me on one of Prism's threads sibelian Sep 2015 #195

... beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #201

It's all a plot by cultists who stubbornly refuse to acknowledge that Hillary™ has WHAT VOTERS CRAVE Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #18

Since you asked Aerows Sep 2015 #24

Holy shit that person is a MIRT member Autumn Sep 2015 #105

That type always try to get into positions of authority, even minor ones Fumesucker Sep 2015 #125

Well he does that all over DU. Autumn Sep 2015 #128

This might be my first hide, but here goes. Half-Century Man Sep 2015 #213

Actually there was. Up thread. 840high Sep 2015 #63

Say, Georgie Porgie, ol' pal... you wouldn't be trying to goad people into a hide here, would you? sibelian Sep 2015 #207

Who could forget this gem? Aerows Sep 2015 #8

Please show me a CURRENT anti-semetic post.... revmclaren Sep 2015 #13

The trifecta: anti-Semitic, uses racial slurs and calls Bernie a racist: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #15

Please explain your logic at your logic.... revmclaren Sep 2015 #20

Explain how that's not anti-Semitic. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #23

no... revmclaren Sep 2015 #28

Asked and answered: "Please show me a CURRENT anti-semetic post...." beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #30

You are straight-up dishonest. Maedhros Sep 2015 #70

I smell chum...stinky chum....ugh! haikugal Sep 2015 #87

Apparently you needed this link instead jeff47 Sep 2015 #31

*shoots popcorn out of nostrils* beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #34

Ow! That must've hurt (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #38

And here you go... (from a discussion board hosted by a DUer and populated Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #17

Ahhhh.... revmclaren Sep 2015 #25

Moving the goalposts? You asked for an example of one POST and now you're dismissing it. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #29

No real goal posts at all. revmclaren Sep 2015 #41

I take bigotry seriously, I don't care where I see it. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #45

As do I... revmclaren Sep 2015 #47

You asked for one post and I provided two. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #48

so are you stating for the record revmclaren Sep 2015 #53

I'll leave that for other to decide. Your mockery of bigotry here is very telling. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #55

Others as in other BS supporters revmclaren Sep 2015 #60

Shouldn't everyone be upset about anti-Semitism? Why aren't you? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #65

You need to be ignored by as many people as possible. Maedhros Sep 2015 #72

so ignore me revmclaren Sep 2015 #77

Auditing? wait a sec MoveIt Sep 2015 #76

Sorry... revmclaren Sep 2015 #79

I read that hillary board thread. It appears to be populated by roguevalley Sep 2015 #101

Adios snort Sep 2015 #172

Now you're trying to change the subject n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #33

Because 2008 was sooo long ago... ibegurpard Sep 2015 #19

Peep up thread a bit. Aerows Sep 2015 #26

im still waiting too... revmclaren Sep 2015 #32

Now descending into insults to avoid admitting you were wrong. arcane1 Sep 2015 #36

Dont have to reply if I dont respect posters revmclaren Sep 2015 #83

Why are you laughing about racial slurs used by fellow HC supporters? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #39

Hypocrisy knows no bounds . TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #99

Well, you can deny it all week or until Kingdom come Aerows Sep 2015 #40

dont have to deny.... revmclaren Sep 2015 #44

So now you're acknowledging the bigotry coming from your side. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #46

An anonamous poster is anonamous... revmclaren Sep 2015 #50

. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #56

In real life, my husband is Jewish and he wouldn't appreciate Fawke Em Sep 2015 #80

In real life my eldest daughter is jewish, my youngest daughter is athiest, my son is... revmclaren Sep 2015 #92

go away. you don't control shit here. Take yourself back to the mud roguevalley Sep 2015 #103

Bye... revmclaren Sep 2015 #104

That one has got to be taking the piss. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #137

K&R! stonecutter357 Sep 2015 #259

There you go. Aerows Sep 2015 #35

Thank you for the real world post revmclaren Sep 2015 #75

That's the same fucking post I gave you and this is what you said to me: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #78

Thats true... revmclaren Sep 2015 #81

So when I pointed out the anti-Semitism you thought it was funny. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #82

Not funny.. revmclaren Sep 2015 #85

It's a good thing you don't care, and I'm not the only one who noticed your behaviour. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #102

I recced that post, and it was later removed. murielm99 Sep 2015 #173

Speaking of tone deaf.... Jim Lane Sep 2015 #182

Thank you, Jim. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #217

What's the statute of limitations on anti-semitism? MoveIt Sep 2015 #145

The "evolution" is astounding. What we're really down to Catherina Sep 2015 #16

if real world friends were as unreliable and malicious as online "friends" I wouldn't want any carolinayellowdog Sep 2015 #73

I'm glad I wasn't the only one appalled by that Hydra Sep 2015 #122

Some people get cranky when you remind them it isn't you that did the mind-changing; it's them. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #89

Mrs Clinton is, as she was in 2008, losing badly on the issues Doctor_J Sep 2015 #62

But she's evolving with each new poll. Finger 840high Sep 2015 #67

. . . hifiguy Sep 2015 #184

This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Sep 2015 #84

Delicious. frylock Sep 2015 #86

lol thanks for the post. ctsnowman Sep 2015 #169

The "muslim" innuendos zentrum Sep 2015 #91

Thanks for reminding me about that. Ugh. Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #93

yep 840high Sep 2015 #149

"As a strong supporter of Obama for 2008," NuclearDem Sep 2015 #108

Thank you. Number23 Sep 2015 #110

I was a huge Obama supporter in 2008. Not now. Many people are like that. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #130

I'm guessing you probably don't call him an asshole, warmongerer NuclearDem Sep 2015 #131

Not on Twitter, no. Bonobo Sep 2015 #133

I, also. hifiguy Sep 2015 #186

hyphenated *dem posters at DU unite! MoveIt Sep 2015 #147

You can count me in that group ibegurpard Sep 2015 #148

^^THIS^^ JackInGreen Sep 2015 #166

Couldn't be more obvious! Let them keep doing it, peole are not stupid nor do most of us suffer from sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #136

My parents vadermike Sep 2015 #155

Was NEVER A Clinton Supporter Even Back In 2008... BUT ChiciB1 Sep 2015 #167

Same shit, different target. hifiguy Sep 2015 #177

That was a damned good rant. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #187

Righteous and right on. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #204

People don't forget these things! sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #209

The polling that I have seen show that Clinton is doing well with the Jewish vote Gothmog Sep 2015 #276

Congratulations? sgtbenobo Sep 2015 #283

Kick historylovr Oct 2015 #289