2016 Postmortem

delrem

(9,688 posts)

71. This is exactly what the Sanders campaign is doing.

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:35 AM

Sep 2015

You, perhaps, have not been listening.

But others have.

We are talking about the viability of universal health care.
We are talking about the viability of universal education.

These are universal social programs, tested out in several successful countries, and are the wave of the future for that reason.

Moreover, we are talking about the viability of peace.

We would immediately put all war profiteers out of business, if not in jail.

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Stating and arguing an opinion about Bernie Sanders' chances is not a "smear." [View all] RBInMaine Sep 2015 OP

You know what they say about opinions... The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #1

"everybody to the left of _____ is a socialist" left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #61

I left the Republican party because they became crazy FormerRepublicanNow Oct 2015 #88

I don't believe it's a smear. Bernie's chances aren't that great, as things stand today. TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #2

"socialist socialist socialist" day and night would bore the living hell out of Americans virtualobserver Sep 2015 #3

We heard that "socialist" thing about Obama, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #7

we even re-elected a socialist virtualobserver Sep 2015 #10

Many Sanders supporters label Obama a corporatist bent on destroying middle class. Hoyt Sep 2015 #33

+1000 Capn Sunshine Oct 2015 #80

Obama is not a socialist-Bernie is redstateblues Sep 2015 #63

Why does anyone have to answer this? djean111 Sep 2015 #4

Agreed. Everyone should just go pffft and move on to other threads. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #8

+ 100000000000000 jkbRN Sep 2015 #37

Exactly. Thank you. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #79

Neither is pointing out LWolf Sep 2015 #5

The attack ads would be worrisome. BlueWaveDem Sep 2015 #6

Over 50 person here. Supporting Bernie. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #9

I'm 67, a baby boomer SheilaT Oct 2015 #76

The attack ads against Hillary won't be any prettier if she wins the nomination. liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #36

Bingo. SheilaT Oct 2015 #78

No matter who, the attacks will be vicious and desperate Capn Sunshine Oct 2015 #81

Agreed. I still haven't come across a coherent argument as to why he stands a chance in the GE. DanTex Sep 2015 #11

Here's one that will probably be ignored Krytan11c Sep 2015 #17

Bernie's had no oppo research or attack ads run against him at all. Hillary has been the target DanTex Sep 2015 #18

Why not, if he's so utterly attackable for being a SOCIALIST? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #19

Because he's only run in Vermont. DanTex Sep 2015 #24

Because it makes no sense to spend the money at this point. BlueWaveDem Sep 2015 #26

For Bernie to win would only require Krytan11c Sep 2015 #20

Like I said, I still haven't heard a viable argument. "I'm pretty sure" doesn't qualify. DanTex Sep 2015 #25

Do you follow the news? Krytan11c Sep 2015 #28

Obama didn't call himself a socialist. Big difference. DanTex Sep 2015 #30

As if Krytan11c Sep 2015 #39

Exactly. The "socialist" canard is a non-starter. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #31

Socialism will be a big deal in the GE redstateblues Sep 2015 #64

Desperate Hillary Supporter (DHS) (tm) post alert! TheProgressive Sep 2015 #42

Ignoring the huge elephant in the room-he's Jewish Capn Sunshine Oct 2015 #83

I doubt that would make a difference. Socialist is a serious detriment to electability though. DanTex Oct 2015 #86

And countering an argument like that.. aidbo Sep 2015 #12

K & R SunSeeker Sep 2015 #13

Multiple red scare troll posts in a single day. PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #14

"I have here in my hand a list of names of DUers who support Sanders..." The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #15

It's red baiting. And, nothing new. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #16

It may not be a smear but it should not be taken as fact. First of all it is an opinion, an opinion liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #21

Wow, twice in the same day corkhead Sep 2015 #22

You posted an earlier OP with a similar theme, cheapdate Sep 2015 #23

Let me begin by HDSam Sep 2015 #27

I feel the same way! wendylaroux Sep 2015 #58

Pretty sure I'd like to hear "socialist! socialist! socialist!" all day and night rather than "LIAR" cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #29

If cries of "SOCIALIST!!!" and other forms of red-baiting The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #34

Nothing makes me laugh so hard as reading "Ooooh, they're going to be so MEAN to Bernie!" cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #38

She's got more baggage than you'd find in the cargo compartment of a 747. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #40

Stating An Unfounded Opinion Becomes A Self-fulfilling Meme - But That Is The Point - Is It Not cantbeserious Sep 2015 #32

Crickets.. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #41

It distracts from the issues, the substance instead of the sports page . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #35

You are trying to be logical. You need to stop it. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #43

I'm amazed how well he has borne the constant chatter saying this karynnj Sep 2015 #44

Thank you! I am bookmarking this thread. Jim Lane Sep 2015 #45

K & R, good post. Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #46

I am a Republican for Bernie Sanders. Bernievoter Sep 2015 #47

Glad To Have You On Board - Agree On The 1% - Bad For All cantbeserious Sep 2015 #49

Please stay,, this place needs the Open minded people required to protect Democracy !!!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #53

Right on wendylaroux Sep 2015 #59

A Republican who supports Bernie has only one reason treestar Sep 2015 #69

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538 thnought Webb would be the anti-Hillary jfern Sep 2015 #48

I can understand people thinking that Hillary's got this... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Sep 2015 #50

DU is la-la land. Wishful thinking passes for "expert" analysis. Reality is discouraged. n/t Lil Missy Sep 2015 #51

You have expertise in this Field, I could tell by Your avatar . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2015 #55

With all due respect TBF Sep 2015 #52

Yes - The Meme Has Become A Chorus - Head From One Particular Durection - Fascinating cantbeserious Sep 2015 #54

The way you stated this previously was insulting. Armstead Sep 2015 #56

Common now at least be honest, Sanders is a Democratic Socialist NOT a socialist.. AuntPatsy Sep 2015 #57

Of course that is not a smear. How much the socialist label hurts him Vattel Sep 2015 #60

Arguing implies receiving opposition..... daleanime Sep 2015 #62

IMO DianeK Sep 2015 #65

Any comment about Bernie that is not positive redstateblues Sep 2015 #66

Well... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #67

If you think there is no difference between redstateblues Sep 2015 #70

It's being called a smear now? treestar Sep 2015 #68

This is exactly what the Sanders campaign is doing. delrem Sep 2015 #71

We've heard "socialist, socialist, socialist" about Obama for 8 years ibegurpard Sep 2015 #72

If one wants to remain chained to popular opinion, no matter how false..... highprincipleswork Sep 2015 #73

red baiting bullshit is red baiting bullshit is Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #74

I do not see it as a smear. Sanders uses that descriptor riversedge Oct 2015 #77

You might to notice how many more people SheilaT Oct 2015 #82

Same shit, Different day. 99Forever Oct 2015 #84

So why is it if a smear if we are talking about Hillary's chances ? Autumn Oct 2015 #85

Come back with your opinions once you figure out how to get Democrats elected in your own state. frylock Oct 2015 #87

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