2016 Postmortem

Gothmog

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229. Have you heard of the concept of projection?

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 06:24 PM

Sep 2015

You are projecting your feelings onto others yet again. Most Hillary Clinton supporters like Sanders and many of his positions. I personally like Sanders and according to that online quiz, Sanders positions are closer to my beliefs. I keep on asking the same question that most people ask which is how will Sanders be viable in the general election and I have yet to see a satisfactory explanation.

Viability is a very appropriate criterion to use to select in the primary process. If you want to see Sanders' appeal expand beyond the very very narrow base currently supporting him, then a good explanation as to viability will be needed. I simply doubt that Sanders will be the nominee and if he is the nominee I will support him but I would expect him to lose badly. I remember the 1972 election too well

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The racist and anti-Semitic plays coming from Bernie haters are just a repeat of 2008 [View all] Catherina Sep 2015 OP

She exploded on Obama? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #1

Twitter is where I found it today, people with long memories are going to make sure Catherina Sep 2015 #12

I So Hope You're Correct! ChiciB1 Sep 2015 #168

You tie a story from 2008 to Hillary supporters upaloopa Sep 2015 #2

None of you hate Bernie? Then explain these posts: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #5

Let them keep doing it. People are too smart for this garbage now. The more they attack him the more sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #138

A lot of eyes have been opened here in the last 2 days. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #140

It was obvious from early on where all this was coming from. Bernie just kept on telling the truth sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #141

Thanks for your work in compiling that appalling collection. Jim Lane Sep 2015 #183

You're welcome. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #185

Have you heard of the concept of projection? Gothmog Sep 2015 #229

Thanks for kicking this, it's alway good to expose the Bernie haters for who the really are. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #230

I do not hate Sanders Gothmog Sep 2015 #233

The posters who said those vile things do, you're just making excuses for them. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #235

Again, you are projecting Gothmog Sep 2015 #250

So you're still claiming that accusations of divided loyalty aren't anti-Semitic? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #251

Are you Jewish? Gothmog Sep 2015 #255

Why don't you tell that to the Jewish DUers who agreed with me and posted in my thread? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #256

So you are not Jewish Gothmog Sep 2015 #257

Don't flatter yourself, I don't put people on ignore. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #258

I am. At least, in terms of heritage, if not Theistic belief. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #260

You are entitled to your opinion and I will run this silly claim by the ADL Gothmog Sep 2015 #262

I quoted Abe Foxman from the ADL in my op and he wasn't laughing: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #264

I was not aware that NPR was part of the Clinton campaign team Gothmog Sep 2015 #265

Straw man, red herring, guilt by association. You're on a roll tonight! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #266

Why is calling West a surrogate is offensive??? Gothmog Sep 2015 #267

Because he's not a surrogate for anyone. And you didn't address my points. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #272

Have you told the Sanders campaign about this? Gothmog Sep 2015 #274

Perhaps you can explain how Dr. West is a racist, you dodged that one last time. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #278

The ADL? I suspect they will correct you, actually. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #268

I am talking about the silly claims on this board that the NPR is a surrogate for the Clinton campa Gothmog Sep 2015 #269

That's funny, upthread it sure looked like you were arguing that charges of dual loyalty aren't Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #270

I read the claims/charges upstream Gothmog Sep 2015 #275

Who said that NPR and Diane Rehm are surrogates for the Clinton campaign? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #271

Read your own post Gothmog Sep 2015 #273

I did, still not seeing where I said that. Post the quote, thanks. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #277

I made a thread asking duers if they would support applegrove Sep 2015 #232

I will support the Democratic Nominee no matter what Gothmog Sep 2015 #234

Great. applegrove Sep 2015 #237

I am several mailing lists and so I forward to a Texas Sanders supporter material when I get it Gothmog Sep 2015 #252

I love data like that, so scientificky! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #239

A yes is the answer DUERS should give as Democratic supporters. applegrove Sep 2015 #241

Why is a Canadian here lecturing us on how to vote? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #243

Because my current prime minister came out of the 'Calgary applegrove Sep 2015 #246

And yet you still don't get why Americans hate loyalty oaths. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #247

And you do not understand the basic membership idea behind this discussion forum. applegrove Sep 2015 #248

Do you? We don't need to get behind the Dem nominee until the primaries are over. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #249

Loyalty pledges are very annoying. 840high Sep 2015 #279

Loyalty to the Democratic Party. Annoying? applegrove Sep 2015 #280

Not at all - just internet 840high Sep 2015 #281

"I remember the 1972 election too well" and if it was still 1972, that experience might be relevant. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #261

I volunteered in the McGovern campaign and remember it well Gothmog Sep 2015 #263

Not saying you don't remember it. I'm saying it is as relevant to '16 as Herbert Hoover was to '72 Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #284

I disagree strongly Gothmog Sep 2015 #285

which makes for a fine bumper sticker. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #286

Kerry was doing great until Bin Ladin endorsed Bush four days before the eleciton Gothmog Sep 2015 #287

I don't think that's an accurate political analysis. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #288

I saw your other site SwampG8r Sep 2015 #42

"Mis-speaking" (sic) is not a "euphemism". OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #51

I learn something new every day SwampG8r Sep 2015 #52

Which has what to do with what? 99Forever Sep 2015 #61

Do you give a shit or not? OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #68

Why ask me? 99Forever Sep 2015 #74

+1 n/t Aerows Sep 2015 #90

"Misspeaking" is a euphemism Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #118

Typically not. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #135

When it comes to politicians, it often is Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #143

Yes. Usually incorrectly. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #144

Good. So stories about Hillary's deficit on trustworthiness are misspoken. delrem Sep 2015 #162

"Remember, it is not a lie bvar22 Sep 2015 #189

Maybe that applies to the imagination of being under sniper fire davidpdx Sep 2015 #192

Lying , of course.... PosterChild Sep 2015 #190

Euphamisms can be comprised of single words or phrases. Ergo, euphemisms ARE words. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #95

Yes, that was very clumsy of me. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #127

Oh, it could be a euphamism for any number of words, e.g., dissembled. nt DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #132

No. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #139

And THAT's why it's a euphamism. It's a euphamism with a wink and a nod. nt DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #142

"It's not a euphemism, it's a word". Bonobo Sep 2015 #107

I'm happy, for a change, to play the idiot. OilemFirchen Sep 2015 #129

I am Jewish and I have read the material on that site Gothmog Sep 2015 #231

Not true at all. I saw 840high Sep 2015 #58

"I saw your other site before it became members only." DJ13 Sep 2015 #117

Thaaaats why I couldn't get back in? JackInGreen Sep 2015 #165

I could watch this all day long. AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #188

As did I. hifiguy Sep 2015 #178

I visited your other board for the first time today. magical thyme Sep 2015 #71

Where is this website? DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #97

correction: hillaryclintonsupporters.com nt magical thyme Sep 2015 #106

actually Aerows Sep 2015 #109

Thanks, Aerows. I was wondering why I was having such a hard time reaching the site. nt DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #113

And another reply, now that I've seen the forums at the site. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #114

Just be cautious TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #126

Thank you for the warning. Someone else also warned me privately. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #134

They got me in the GDP for speaking the truth TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #146

You can blacklist a certain number of posters from your juries Fumesucker Sep 2015 #150

Thank you for the information . TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #159

Everyone can blacklist 5 members from their jury pool. HubertHeaver Sep 2015 #179

Several posters there are MIRT on DU. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #180

You can put up 15 names on the jury blacklist sarge43 Sep 2015 #225

5 if they don't have a star. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #226

I sit corrected. Thanks sarge43 Sep 2015 #227

Oh, yes indeedy. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #228

Tell me about it sarge43 Sep 2015 #236

LOL! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #238

Yeah sarge43 Sep 2015 #240

My dad told me a funny story. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #242

I bet it was a second looie's idea and SgtMaj just rolled his eyes. "He'll learn." sarge43 Sep 2015 #244

You got it! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #245

Thanks for the laugh. 'Night. n/t sarge43 Sep 2015 #253

Have a good one! :) beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #254

Quote. This is "OPEN FUCKING SEASON. Let's do this thing." End Quote. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #151

Ah. The jury alert setup. Can you at least articulate what you mean, beyond "wow"? DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #154

I had a post written sheshe2 Sep 2015 #156

Sorry to hear all of that, but I'm not withdrawing my point. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #157

Good to hear! sheshe2 Sep 2015 #158

Sheshe, I genuinely like arguing politics sometimes. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #160

Good thing, too. sibelian Sep 2015 #197

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Lychee2 Sep 2015 #170

You survived, 0-7 Jim Lane Sep 2015 #171

Thank you, Jim. I apreciate you letting me know about this. nt DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #174

Wow, you called that one davidpdx Sep 2015 #193

I agree. nt. sibelian Sep 2015 #199

Thanks. I can't browse to it. I see a WHOIS record, but when I do an nslookup, I get NXDOMAIN. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #112

here's a direct link into one of the "nicer" posts in the forum magical thyme Sep 2015 #115

What a huge load of shit. Brock Kentman Sep 2015 #124

Are you talking about the one that was posted on DU first? sheshe2 Sep 2015 #152

No the thread where a poster said Bernie had a nest egg waiting for him in Israel. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #153

It was from the comments section. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #161

Nice try but the comments about being funded by Israel were made at your website. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #164

It's their own version of 'birtherism' AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #175

I was thinking the same thing! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #176

Wow! TM99 Sep 2015 #163

Oh cool! Aerows Sep 2015 #116

Alas, there aren't many open relays left on tcp/25 (and no MX record for the dead domain in question DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #119

Hell, I don't even have kids Aerows Sep 2015 #120

I mean an open tcp/25 n/t Aerows Sep 2015 #121

My son just came from door knocking in Springfield.....Fucking Ohio....the only state that matters. sgtbenobo Sep 2015 #282

If she can't control her campaign, she isn't fit to control the country. roguevalley Sep 2015 #94

Here's another piece of right-wing garbage posted by a Hillary Clinton supporter davidpdx Sep 2015 #191

And yet her hired her to be Secretary Of State. emulatorloo Sep 2015 #3

You've heard of keeping your enemies closer. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #7

And he's also not falling all over himself to help her get the nomination, is he? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #11

Of course there is. 840high Sep 2015 #59

when she impugned his character and used others including her dudly husband to roguevalley Sep 2015 #96

So would I. 840high Sep 2015 #123

So Obama isn't part of the conspiracy to elect Clinton? JoePhilly Sep 2015 #216

I dont know, man, did you have that conversation with me? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #218

I thought he did that so she wouldn't run against him in 2012. nt artislife Sep 2015 #37

Yup. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #57

O blocked her in '12. She'll run every 4 yrs. while there's a breath in her body. Divernan Sep 2015 #98

Do you think there could be a zombie Clinton artislife Sep 2015 #111

I thought Nixon was obsessed with the presidency. hifiguy Sep 2015 #181

the Clintons were very powerful politically. Now he's pushing Biden to run. magical thyme Sep 2015 #66

Not to mention repressed rage and a hair-trigger temper. Divernan Sep 2015 #100

The SOS post was her price for withdrawing. leveymg Sep 2015 #88

If you are referring to an OP by a Hillary supporter which did not contain any reference of racists Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #4

I linked one below. Aerows Sep 2015 #9

All this wailing about "Bernie Haters" being "anti-Semitic" are just phony ploys to rile up.... George II Sep 2015 #6

Of course there are no examples.... revmclaren Sep 2015 #10

Here's one: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #14

HOW is that "anti-Semitic"? And don't use one of your typical "you tell me" responses.... George II Sep 2015 #21

How is saying that Bernie has a nest egg waiting for him in Israel anti-Semitic? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #22

If he really had one there, that would be one thing 6chars Sep 2015 #64

Just suggesting it is anti-Semitic. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #69

Still piling on your unexplained theories? So tell us......... George II Sep 2015 #200

Suggesting he's funded by Israel (which is an accusation of dual loyalty) isn't anti-Semitic? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #202

You want ME to explain something that isn't true? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. George II Sep 2015 #210

If you can't be bothered to read the information posted by Warren you don't want to know. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #212

Do you come from a Jewish family, George? Because I do. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #219

Thanks again, Warren. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #221

I'm VERY familiar with what anti-Semetism is, thank you. Even though... George II Sep 2015 #196

Dual loyalty, George, like Warren explained to you in post #27: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #198

Plain ignorance combined with brass neck. sibelian Sep 2015 #203

He's something, isn't he? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #205

Hehehe! sibelian Sep 2015 #206

I doubt he'll be back now that I'm not the only one calling him out. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #208

So where IS that claim of "dual loyalty" and, if it exists the context in which it was said? George II Sep 2015 #211

Dog Whistles- an Anti-Semitism Primer (a timely repost) beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #214

But you still haven't show us WHERE the anti-Semitic post/comment was. You're just going around... George II Sep 2015 #215

Yes, I did. And I'm going to keep explaining it, because you're wrong. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #220

I wonder if he'll try to make the same argument in my thread? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #222

It's kind of like how paid petroleum industry nabobs deal with global warming. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #223

Exactly! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #224

Specific: Because Charges of "Dual Loyalty" are a well-known anti-semitic trope. That's how. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #27

Thank you. I have no patience for people who dismiss and ignore bigotry. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #43

"where's the Anti-Semitism" seems to come up, a lot. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #49

Like when Fox news tried to say the Charleston shooter was attacking Christians instead of blacks. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #54

Hmmmm. Gentile privilege? sibelian Sep 2015 #194

Given your ridiculous attitude towards me on one of Prism's threads sibelian Sep 2015 #195

... beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #201

It's all a plot by cultists who stubbornly refuse to acknowledge that Hillary™ has WHAT VOTERS CRAVE Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #18

Since you asked Aerows Sep 2015 #24

Holy shit that person is a MIRT member Autumn Sep 2015 #105

That type always try to get into positions of authority, even minor ones Fumesucker Sep 2015 #125

Well he does that all over DU. Autumn Sep 2015 #128

This might be my first hide, but here goes. Half-Century Man Sep 2015 #213

Actually there was. Up thread. 840high Sep 2015 #63

Say, Georgie Porgie, ol' pal... you wouldn't be trying to goad people into a hide here, would you? sibelian Sep 2015 #207

Who could forget this gem? Aerows Sep 2015 #8

Please show me a CURRENT anti-semetic post.... revmclaren Sep 2015 #13

The trifecta: anti-Semitic, uses racial slurs and calls Bernie a racist: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #15

Please explain your logic at your logic.... revmclaren Sep 2015 #20

Explain how that's not anti-Semitic. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #23

no... revmclaren Sep 2015 #28

Asked and answered: "Please show me a CURRENT anti-semetic post...." beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #30

You are straight-up dishonest. Maedhros Sep 2015 #70

I smell chum...stinky chum....ugh! haikugal Sep 2015 #87

Apparently you needed this link instead jeff47 Sep 2015 #31

*shoots popcorn out of nostrils* beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #34

Ow! That must've hurt (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #38

And here you go... (from a discussion board hosted by a DUer and populated Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #17

Ahhhh.... revmclaren Sep 2015 #25

Moving the goalposts? You asked for an example of one POST and now you're dismissing it. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #29

No real goal posts at all. revmclaren Sep 2015 #41

I take bigotry seriously, I don't care where I see it. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #45

As do I... revmclaren Sep 2015 #47

You asked for one post and I provided two. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #48

so are you stating for the record revmclaren Sep 2015 #53

I'll leave that for other to decide. Your mockery of bigotry here is very telling. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #55

Others as in other BS supporters revmclaren Sep 2015 #60

Shouldn't everyone be upset about anti-Semitism? Why aren't you? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #65

You need to be ignored by as many people as possible. Maedhros Sep 2015 #72

so ignore me revmclaren Sep 2015 #77

Auditing? wait a sec MoveIt Sep 2015 #76

Sorry... revmclaren Sep 2015 #79

I read that hillary board thread. It appears to be populated by roguevalley Sep 2015 #101

Adios snort Sep 2015 #172

Now you're trying to change the subject n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #33

Because 2008 was sooo long ago... ibegurpard Sep 2015 #19

Peep up thread a bit. Aerows Sep 2015 #26

im still waiting too... revmclaren Sep 2015 #32

Now descending into insults to avoid admitting you were wrong. arcane1 Sep 2015 #36

Dont have to reply if I dont respect posters revmclaren Sep 2015 #83

Why are you laughing about racial slurs used by fellow HC supporters? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #39

Hypocrisy knows no bounds . TheFarS1de Sep 2015 #99

Well, you can deny it all week or until Kingdom come Aerows Sep 2015 #40

dont have to deny.... revmclaren Sep 2015 #44

So now you're acknowledging the bigotry coming from your side. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #46

An anonamous poster is anonamous... revmclaren Sep 2015 #50

. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #56

In real life, my husband is Jewish and he wouldn't appreciate Fawke Em Sep 2015 #80

In real life my eldest daughter is jewish, my youngest daughter is athiest, my son is... revmclaren Sep 2015 #92

go away. you don't control shit here. Take yourself back to the mud roguevalley Sep 2015 #103

Bye... revmclaren Sep 2015 #104

That one has got to be taking the piss. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #137

K&R! stonecutter357 Sep 2015 #259

There you go. Aerows Sep 2015 #35

Thank you for the real world post revmclaren Sep 2015 #75

That's the same fucking post I gave you and this is what you said to me: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #78

Thats true... revmclaren Sep 2015 #81

So when I pointed out the anti-Semitism you thought it was funny. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #82

Not funny.. revmclaren Sep 2015 #85

It's a good thing you don't care, and I'm not the only one who noticed your behaviour. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #102

I recced that post, and it was later removed. murielm99 Sep 2015 #173

Speaking of tone deaf.... Jim Lane Sep 2015 #182

Thank you, Jim. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #217

What's the statute of limitations on anti-semitism? MoveIt Sep 2015 #145

The "evolution" is astounding. What we're really down to Catherina Sep 2015 #16

if real world friends were as unreliable and malicious as online "friends" I wouldn't want any carolinayellowdog Sep 2015 #73

I'm glad I wasn't the only one appalled by that Hydra Sep 2015 #122

Some people get cranky when you remind them it isn't you that did the mind-changing; it's them. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #89

Mrs Clinton is, as she was in 2008, losing badly on the issues Doctor_J Sep 2015 #62

But she's evolving with each new poll. Finger 840high Sep 2015 #67

. . . hifiguy Sep 2015 #184

This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Sep 2015 #84

Delicious. frylock Sep 2015 #86

lol thanks for the post. ctsnowman Sep 2015 #169

The "muslim" innuendos zentrum Sep 2015 #91

Thanks for reminding me about that. Ugh. Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #93

yep 840high Sep 2015 #149

"As a strong supporter of Obama for 2008," NuclearDem Sep 2015 #108

Thank you. Number23 Sep 2015 #110

I was a huge Obama supporter in 2008. Not now. Many people are like that. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #130

I'm guessing you probably don't call him an asshole, warmongerer NuclearDem Sep 2015 #131

Not on Twitter, no. Bonobo Sep 2015 #133

I, also. hifiguy Sep 2015 #186

hyphenated *dem posters at DU unite! MoveIt Sep 2015 #147

You can count me in that group ibegurpard Sep 2015 #148

^^THIS^^ JackInGreen Sep 2015 #166

Couldn't be more obvious! Let them keep doing it, peole are not stupid nor do most of us suffer from sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #136

My parents vadermike Sep 2015 #155

Was NEVER A Clinton Supporter Even Back In 2008... BUT ChiciB1 Sep 2015 #167

Same shit, different target. hifiguy Sep 2015 #177

That was a damned good rant. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #187

Righteous and right on. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #204

People don't forget these things! sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #209

The polling that I have seen show that Clinton is doing well with the Jewish vote Gothmog Sep 2015 #276

Congratulations? sgtbenobo Sep 2015 #283

Kick historylovr Oct 2015 #289