2016 Postmortem

sabrina 1

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183. Lol, I guess you haven't been paying attention at all to how Bernie and his supporters have dealt

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:22 PM

Sep 2015

the dirt. Glad to see you acknowledge that there has been despicable dirty smear attempts, all of which have failed thanks to the rapid response of Bernie's army of bright, tech savvy volunteers.

Where is David Brock hiding I wonder, after HIS attempt using his Hillary Super Pac and dirty Corporate money, to smear Bernie?

That was a classic takedown of a dirty Right Wing trickster who thought he could remain anonymoous only to have his standard Right Wing dirty trick turned against him.

And the best part? Brock, instead of helping Hillary (why on earth are they associated at all considering the history?) helped raise over $1 million dollars for Bernie in 24 hours.

Now THAT'S how you handle the dirt!

Not to mention Bernie is BURYING GOP Front Runner Trump in NH, while Hillary is barely defeating him. So there is no doubt that Bernie is the most likely candidate to WIN THE GE.

Hillary is not defeating Bush eg in the poll, while Bernie trashes him also.

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Reality Check: The US appears to be on its way to electing a Self Described Democratic Socialist [View all] sabrina 1 Sep 2015 OP

We still have a long primary to go yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #1

Yes, we do. I hope that the failure of the nasty smears will encourage a more Issues oriented sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #2

True. The debate will be questions that Bernie and Hillary will have to answer yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #4

That's what we need. That's why we need MORE not fewer debates. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #6

We'll see how the first six go yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #9

You expecting the DNC to use a time machine? jeff47 Sep 2015 #66

I think that if this first debate is a dud yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #67

Because they'll want more duds? jeff47 Sep 2015 #70

Well, SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #133

With Bernie there it definitely won't be a dud. He has a way of getting the people excited sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #85

^^^ this ^^^ malokvale77 Sep 2015 #88

Then it will be too late. Debbie didn't do it in 2014. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #124

Hey! I've got a novel idea! Why don't we have some REAL "debates" Plucketeer Sep 2015 #71

Like the "LWV" use to do? malokvale77 Sep 2015 #89

Bring back the LWV! R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #109

Very good point. We've gotten used to debates that aren't very useful. Jim Lane Sep 2015 #110

It's true, that Bernie seems to have somehow anticipated the kinds of attacks he would get 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #20

He has been in DC long enough to have seen how they operate. Not to mention how intelligent sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #47

I think we are seeing an awakening... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #53

Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2015 #63

Yes the message is clear... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #80

And that's the message that needs to go out. n/t WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2015 #114

That indeed is the message. malokvale77 Sep 2015 #130

I'm sorry about your SO malokvale! sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #160

We will all roar together. WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2015 #178

Yes, we are, not just here, but around the world in any place where neocon/lib policies have sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #72

Absolutely... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #82

"Failures of the nasty smears?" ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2015 #79

You continue to try to disparage the "hard left", yet fail to ever define exactly rhett o rick Sep 2015 #86

I don't fail to define it, the definition is crystal clear ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2015 #143

There is no such thing as... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #91

Conservative Dems really are nothing less than liberal Republicans to me...IMHO. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #111

... SammyWinstonJack Sep 2015 #135

Lol, the irony of that comment cracked me up! sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #145

You're laughing at yourself? ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2015 #162

Smears vs Issues malokvale77 Sep 2015 #84

Yes, which is why Hillary's pet DWS put off first debate til mid October, hoping Bernie would fizzle peacebird Sep 2015 #104

Good OP Babel_17 Sep 2015 #3

Maybe, but facts never got in the way of smear campaigners. I believe it was dropped when sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #5

Yeah, I was alluding to that as well Babel_17 Sep 2015 #11

He's the same age as Biden, and I haven't heard that about Biden. n/t libdem4life Sep 2015 #14

Well, yes, so they had to let go of that particular meme. I laughed when I saw it knowing it sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #49

Don't you just love it when that happens? I mean those were BIG six years between he and Hillary. libdem4life Sep 2015 #184

Not only that, but when they started thrashing people who were part of the Civil Rights Movement sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #185

I can't wait. President Sanders. Such a lovely ring to it n/t Catherina Sep 2015 #7

Can I observe that all the focus has been on polling in two States. brooklynite Sep 2015 #8

Bernie says money doesn't matter and he should be trusted yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #10

Bernie has never run a national campaign... brooklynite Sep 2015 #13

Doesn't matter. Bernie has a plan that does not include money yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #15

Only certain people can afford experimenting with USSC nominations, it's not everyone in America uponit7771 Sep 2015 #166

Yawn artislife Sep 2015 #46

Hillary has and she ended up in debt airc. Millions in debt despite all the donations she received. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #50

Why yes indeed... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #93

nor did obama juxtaposed Sep 2015 #101

IN the 2004 Illinois Senate race, he got 3.5 million votes... brooklynite Sep 2015 #119

yes & hrc got her delegates handed to her juxtaposed Sep 2015 #120

Hilary has. She blew it. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #113

and by "blew it", you mean got as many votes as Obama did? brooklynite Sep 2015 #117

I guess that's why she is the POTUS now? R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #177

From personal experience, SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #138

Hillary says she opposes money in politics and we should trust that she means that, yet sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #27

To hell with policies!! We need a candidate who can raise tons of money!! RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #16

Yes, we do...to be competitive when he rolls out the policies. brooklynite Sep 2015 #18

And yet you still maintain that we have a democracy. RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #21

I maintain that we have reality... brooklynite Sep 2015 #30

You may claim to live in "reality," but your reality is not a democracy RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #33

So the election of Barack Obama was not "democratic"? brooklynite Sep 2015 #35

If you're using that election as the gold standard, you're on pretty shaky ground RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #42

I have no problem with those appointments if Obama was the candidate the voters wanted... brooklynite Sep 2015 #45

I'm pretty sure the voters... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #96

Well said RufusTFirefly malokvale77 Sep 2015 #95

All that SuperPAC money didn't seem to help Scott Walker very much . . . markpkessinger Sep 2015 #60

If Hillary Clinton were at <1% you might have a point... brooklynite Sep 2015 #68

Scotty Walker wasn't at <1% when he got the money. Just sayin'. truebluegreen Sep 2015 #77

Bernie is proving that to be wrong! So what now? No need for Super Pacs funded by Corporate Dark sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #29

How naive to think that the tons of money doesn't comes with strings. Those that donate the tons of rhett o rick Sep 2015 #118

You are so funny (not). malokvale77 Sep 2015 #131

Well, I'll tell you...I'm afraid he'll lose brooklynite Sep 2015 #139

Fear is so paralyzing. PuraVidaDreamin Sep 2015 #142

But you think... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #144

Yes, I DO think so... brooklynite Sep 2015 #151

Well it seems to me... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #156

yours is the obvious point questionseverything Sep 2015 #171

The current crop of Republicans is pathetic Alittleliberal Sep 2015 #154

Then let me put your fears to rest. See here: sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #158

...in one State. brooklynite Sep 2015 #165

Polls are showing that is not just two states anymore. Now we are seeing polls showing him sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #22

How much money did Truman have? 840high Sep 2015 #55

You can observe that Bernie has 1/10th the money of Hillary yet looks more and more A Simple Game Sep 2015 #58

Ha Ha Ha... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #92

If the polling in those 2 states was showing your candidate ahead, you would be touting it as Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #100

Not me, not if it was a repeat of 08... which it looks like Sanders is repeating Hillarys 08 run uponit7771 Sep 2015 #164

No, that's an honest observation and those aren't allowed... notice the responses uponit7771 Sep 2015 #163

He's within ten points nationally, and the two states are early primaries. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #167

Thanks, Sabrina sadoldgirl Sep 2015 #12

We need at least 24 million to watch. yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #17

No it doesn't. zappaman Sep 2015 #19

When you can't beat Bernie attack his supporters instead, talk about amateurish. Vincardog Sep 2015 #52

Uh huh. zappaman Sep 2015 #56

Only state polls matter in the primaries. malokvale77 Sep 2015 #102

People like Clinton in the abstract. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #23

Capitalism isn't working... KansDem Sep 2015 #24

K&R...and Hillary's Role at SOS reveals this: KoKo Sep 2015 #81

Self interest anyone? malokvale77 Sep 2015 #108

Well, that's not good. Major Hogwash Sep 2015 #168

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #25

K&R CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #26

Don't count your chickies in IOWA yet....PPP poll Sept 22 Clinton 43; Sanders 22 riversedge Sep 2015 #28

The OP is being selective in which polls advance her narrative. That's her right to promote her Metric System Sep 2015 #37

chuckle. yes we do . riversedge Sep 2015 #54

I would not count on Bernie winning NH either. leftofcool Sep 2015 #39

Many didn't count on Obama winning IA or NH, but those two states have proven they like horse races ancianita Sep 2015 #51

Hillary won NH in 2008 riversedge Sep 2015 #57

After crying. Remember that reaction? They'll still likely allow Sanders a run to Super Tuesday. ancianita Sep 2015 #59

I remember the reaction. It was disgusting. riversedge Sep 2015 #65

Yet pollong shows she is losing it to Bernie now peacebird Sep 2015 #106

Excellent post Sabrina. 99Forever Sep 2015 #31

K/R Jack Rabbit Sep 2015 #32

Pushback tooeyeten Sep 2015 #34

No doubt he will become the incarnation of Joseph Stalin before they're done with him. YOHABLO Sep 2015 #128

And worse, n/t tooeyeten Sep 2015 #176

We can push back harder, there ARE more of us than there are of them. And so far, the people's sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #174

If tooeyeten Sep 2015 #175

Yes, we know that. But what we need even more as Sanders has repeatedly stated and what is probably sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #179

I'm not so hopeful for now tooeyeten Sep 2015 #186

Well, Democrats are not going to do it, it will be a cross section of the people, and that is what sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #187

Polls are all over the place. You're simply selecting the most favorable ones. Metric System Sep 2015 #36

"You're simply selecting the most favorable ones". malokvale77 Sep 2015 #112

Of course not. Metric System Sep 2015 #121

Well, I'm not finding any unfavorable ones. He's been trending upwards since he entered the race and sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #161

Bernie will fall apart in the debates left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #38

lol juxtaposed Sep 2015 #103

rec x 10 restorefreedom Sep 2015 #40

Excellent post! Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #41

Lol, but they don't learn! Instead of backing off seeing how much the public is ON to them now, they sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #61

As low as necessary. Some seem to relish in going even lower just for shits. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #73

Yay! whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #43

Oh...My...Gawd! SoapBox Sep 2015 #44

GREAT OP. Way to lay out the primary issues and opponents! Flog them with truth! ancianita Sep 2015 #48

Way to go ancianita malokvale77 Sep 2015 #123

... ancianita Sep 2015 #141

Thanks, Sabrina -- great post! n/t markpkessinger Sep 2015 #62

Great post, Sabrina ... Trajan Sep 2015 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Sep 2015 #69

..."Bernie's supporters are hurting his cause"... sibelian Sep 2015 #74

The 'Bernie supporter garbage' is just an obvious Corporate funded think tank desperate attempt to sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #75

Note that the WSJ poll showed 33% of voters' biggest worry truebluegreen Sep 2015 #76

Yes, he's a smart man, did his homework, not to mention he has witnessed the corruption first hand. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #83

K&R! excellent post! n/t in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #78

Geez, Sanders has the support of 10-15% of the electorate and you are having an inaugeration party. Persondem Sep 2015 #87

Like Hillary did in the past year? nt Tommymac Sep 2015 #97

Lol, didn't click the link to the polls but no matter, even those polls don't reflect Sanders sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #98

What the hell... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #125

Excellent post, sabrina! Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #90

Well said, Sabrina. Thank you! senz Sep 2015 #94

Damn! Links and Issues and Information! Great OP! Thanks sabrina 1 Tommymac Sep 2015 #99

Reality check. RandySF Sep 2015 #105

Reality Check. bernie Sanders will be the next President of the USA. See, I can do it too! peacebird Sep 2015 #107

Nostradamus disagrees Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #126

Because... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #127

It is VERY early. He can't win the nomination nor the presidency as a self described socialist. RBInMaine Sep 2015 #115

Looks like the American people don't agree with that old Cold Warrior 'fifties logic. The sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #134

Yep. It's very early. Means things can change. And are. nt SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #136

options 1,2 and 4 in that WSJ poll equal 70% of voters and their #1 worry virtualobserver Sep 2015 #116

I was so excited when he announced he would run. Paka Sep 2015 #122

Those that are petrified to fight for their rights are not recognizing that not all Americans are rhett o rick Sep 2015 #129

It was kind of telling... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #132

The question is, why are any democrats NOT supporting him Doctor_J Sep 2015 #137

Perhaps you should ask President Kucinich... brooklynite Sep 2015 #140

Thanks for reminding me. That was before the people knew what that dark money was buying. That was sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #148

You believe, seriously, that absent "smear campaigns" Kucinich had a real chance to win? brooklynite Sep 2015 #150

No, I don't 'believe it' I know it. Kucinich was a great politician with the guts to speak out on sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #152

Forget it. She's on a roll. zappaman Sep 2015 #155

May you be correct! K & R ! n/t xocet Sep 2015 #146

Wooooo! You go, Sabrina! Old Crow Sep 2015 #147

Bernie vadermike Sep 2015 #149

Great news about your mom's retirement community. His only hurdle now is to get all those who still sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #153

What are the Super Tuesday states? Duckfan Sep 2015 #157

These 11 states: ColesCountyDem Sep 2015 #169

Many in the country have not been introduced to the Dem candidates, still waiting for the ... slipslidingaway Sep 2015 #159

KICKING it! John Poet Sep 2015 #170

Winning the GE treestar Sep 2015 #172

Lol, I guess you haven't been paying attention at all to how Bernie and his supporters have dealt sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #183

I love and will vote for yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #173

Me too, yuiyoshida! sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #181

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #180

What we have are the 'New Democrats' Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2015 #182