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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
6. It takes two sides to stop being defensive, it takes 2 sides to start understanding.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 03:19 AM
Sep 2015

I took a month off from DU recently and I will again if needed to keep my mouth shut.

I have never misused my skin color to be deserved to be said to be using "white privilege". I am not and never have been a "white supremacist". Ugly term that calls to mind Nazi Germany.

I think Bernie had just started his campaign, perhaps a little overwhelmed with the massive nature of the crowds, having to adjust everything so quickly. He is hit twice in a row by people screaming at him and grabbing him onstage....when he probably was at that time unaware of what was happening.

Fair is fair, and it is going to take both sides to come together...not just one side. I have done nothing as a Bernie supporter for which to apologize...so I won't.

Words count, they hurt no matter which side uses them.

If I need to leave for another month or so, I will do so rather than say hurtful things like were said to me over and over.

I went through some hard times like both sides did during Florida's years of school integration.

We learned to work together then and did so throughout my many years of teaching.

We can do that here, but it is never just one side that is always right....it takes both sides.

We were told that Bernie's past deeds through his life didn't matter because he was not using the exactly correct words...he probably at that time wasn't sure what they were. Of course his past actions and votes matter, his good intentions through the years matter.

And I want to say I was totally disgusted to find that this primary campaign was being used to paint Bernie Sanders as a racist. What a shameful thing to do.


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He has a good racial justice platform now jfern Sep 2015 #1
Yes, that is almost exactly what I said in the OP. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #3
He always had one, but he moved it WAY up on his list, thankfully n/t eridani Sep 2015 #16
I agree. Bernie got off to a weak start on racial issues Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #2
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This is exactly what's needed if Bernie pnwmom Sep 2015 #4
Criticizing the pope is now "constantly denigrating people of faith"? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #5
This is a good point. LWolf Sep 2015 #28
United we stand. Hortensis Sep 2015 #36
It takes two sides to stop being defensive, it takes 2 sides to start understanding. madfloridian Sep 2015 #6
So, is he supposed to call some of his aides "bro" now, and give fistbumps to them? Major Hogwash Sep 2015 #8
and you have the nerve to wonder why dsc Sep 2015 #22
Our 'Iran Strategy' seems to be entirely about 'face'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #27
Your subject line contains racial stereotypes and is deliberately offensive. n/t pnwmom Sep 2015 #40
I think at some point, one of those two sides needs to give something. Bonobo Sep 2015 #9
If I had been wrong, I would admit it. madfloridian Sep 2015 #13
Both your post and the OP are incredibly important and valid. TDale313 Sep 2015 #11
mad, yours is one of the best voices we have on issues questionseverything Sep 2015 #54
Though you may be right... madfloridian Sep 2015 #58
this primary is bound to be ugly questionseverything Sep 2015 #59
My take on this is different. TM99 Sep 2015 #7
I agree with everything you said AND I want to move forward. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #10
Very nice post Art_from_Ark Sep 2015 #12
THIS. LWolf Sep 2015 #30
As an undecided, I salute your post DFW Sep 2015 #14
I get very uncomfortable with the "his views have been the same for 25 years" meme nxylas Sep 2015 #15
I don't feel the same. To me it is a sign of strength and conviction. Bonobo Sep 2015 #17
Hillary didn't change her mind about marriage equality until 2013. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #19
Ooops, much worse. I forgot. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #21
But conviction doesn't have to equal stasis nxylas Sep 2015 #20
What you indicate is not stasis. Bonobo Sep 2015 #23
I *was* giving him credit for change nxylas Sep 2015 #24
All Bernie supporters should a take a cue from the man they support. mhatrw Sep 2015 #18
No thanks. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #29
He's a jerk if you are a corporate sellout. mhatrw Sep 2015 #46
+1 deutsey Sep 2015 #57
I do think it's important t drive home the point of the smear campaign the other Katashi_itto Sep 2015 #25
Were there people who knew about Bernie before the race who didn't know that? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #26
He seems to be really good at this, LWolf Sep 2015 #31
Good OP and there are several good supplemental posts on this thread as well. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #32
Yes, but his heart is obviously not in it. Only after multiple BLM debacles did he finally DanTex Sep 2015 #33
So Dan, you now know what is in another man's heart? TM99 Sep 2015 #35
In the case of Bernie, it's pretty clear. No need for personal attacks. DanTex Sep 2015 #37
Dan you always claim it is a personal attack TM99 Sep 2015 #38
Well, your last post contained an obvious personal attack. DanTex Sep 2015 #39
And yet you continually make them, especially against Bernie, who surely doesn't deserve it. Live and Learn Sep 2015 #61
Criticizing a politician is not a "personal attack". DanTex Sep 2015 #62
I disagree. Bonobo Sep 2015 #41
"without having much real world impact" for YOU. It's like you can't help but marginalize POC by bettyellen Sep 2015 #47
If we outlaw racial profiling and just as many POC are brutalized by the "justice system", mhatrw Sep 2015 #50
Also notice how it's good and OK for BS to "evolve" treestar Sep 2015 #43
evolve >> revolve mhatrw Sep 2015 #51
His heart isn't in it? How many progressives do you know who are mhatrw Sep 2015 #48
so what does that say about the 17 years of advocacy it took to get Hillary to support marriage Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #55
Speaking of BLM. Puglover Sep 2015 #63
This isn't a reboot. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #34
He was an absolute neophyte regarding how many are jailed for not paying fines these days..... bettyellen Sep 2015 #49
i saw that interview questionseverything Sep 2015 #53
Live, grow stronger, fight another day mythology Sep 2015 #42
Kick cyberswede Sep 2015 #44
Bernie moved social injustice to the front of his speeches, expanded on and made it more prominent. magical thyme Sep 2015 #45
that is how i see it questionseverything Sep 2015 #52
I agree 100%. nt Bonobo Sep 2015 #56
kick jfern Sep 2015 #60
kick again jfern Oct 2015 #64
Kicking. Agschmid Oct 2015 #65
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