2016 Postmortem

Gothmog

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130. Solace and amusement are two different things

Tue Sep 29, 2015, 02:55 PM

Sep 2015

Most people do not think that Sanders will be the nominee. If the Clinton campaign imploded, then Biden would step in. For me to find comfort in the fact that Carnival Cruz has more congressional endorsements than Sen. Sanders, I would have to be willing to ignore Nate Silver http://fivethirtyeight.com/ , predictwise http://www.predictwise.com/ and every other source predicting the outcome of this primary season. I need no comfort as to the current state of the primary process https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=solace+definition Solace is very very different from amusement. Carnival Cruz is hated by the GOP leadership and the fact that Carnival Cruz has more members of congress endorsing him compared to Sanders amuses me.

You are welcome to support the candidate of your choice based on whatever criterion that you deem appropriate. Other Democrats may by using different criterion including endorsements in deciding which candidate these Democrats will support

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Hillary Clinton's Not-So-Subtle Message to Bernie Sanders - NBCNews [View all] WillyT Sep 2015 OP

She's correct Renew Deal Sep 2015 #1

It's Not Startling At All... They're All Scared Shitless Of Her !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #3

Highly doubtful, actually. MineralMan Sep 2015 #8

Do You Think Bernie Keeps An Enemies List ??? WillyT Sep 2015 #11

I have no idea. I do not know him. MineralMan Sep 2015 #19

Didn't ask if you "know" Android3.14 Sep 2015 #41

Nothing is obvious. Knowledge is power. MineralMan Sep 2015 #58

So are platitudes. kenfrequed Sep 2015 #95

actually, they endorsed her when no one understood this would be a horse race roguevalley Sep 2015 #109

They all feed at the money trough AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #68

Like swine gobbling swill. nt hifiguy Sep 2015 #147

That didn't stop the hundreds of endorsements that Obama got. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #33

Bill & Hillary have a spread sheet of those who "betrayed" them. Divernan Sep 2015 #107

For Clintons, revenge is a dish never served too cold. Divernan Sep 2015 #108

We need to stop having these people destroy the party with their grudges jfern Sep 2015 #169

The similarities between the Clintons and Richard Nixon hifiguy Sep 2015 #148

How is it startling that establishment politicians line up with the establishment choice? HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #46

How is it that lemmings follow each other? nolabels Sep 2015 #61

Pretty startling? 6chars Sep 2015 #101

Exactly. They are DLC establishment. And one other reason. jwirr Sep 2015 #104

Bernie doesn't have a single congressional endorsement. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #76

Bingo! peacebird Sep 2015 #102

The fact that Carnival Cruz has more congressional endorsements than Sanders is amusing Gothmog Sep 2015 #78

It's nice that you can find solace in that. frylock Sep 2015 #111

Solace and amusement are two different things Gothmog Sep 2015 #130

I'm one of those idiots that use policy positions and past performance for my criterion.. frylock Sep 2015 #137

So am I Gothmog Sep 2015 #153

Endorsements are a factor only to party honks.. frylock Sep 2015 #158

Endorsements also show how effective a candidate will be if they are elected Gothmog Sep 2015 #170

I think you're missing the current state of affairs. jeff47 Sep 2015 #123

$2.5 B buys a lot of Congressmen. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #2

I don't care. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #4

+1 tecelote Sep 2015 #80

Actually the comment was so subtle as to be non-existent as a "message to Sanders". The fact Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #5

The logic throughout this thread is rather humorous. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #105

She has a machine, he has a movement. leveymg Sep 2015 #6

Perfect! nt artislife Sep 2015 #44

"Because they look at what they think I can do TO them" tularetom Sep 2015 #7

SHE IS MAKING THE POINT OF HIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN restorefreedom Sep 2015 #9

+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #22

thanks willyt and thx for the thread restorefreedom Sep 2015 #23

+ very well said... haikugal Sep 2015 #35

:) nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #51

Actually, my take away is that it shows.... daleanime Sep 2015 #36

how true! restorefreedom Sep 2015 #50

+ 1,000,000 cantbeserious Sep 2015 #56

no more establishment..go bernie! nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #63

No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Sep 2015 #74

this ^^^^ exactly. Not to mention, that's why your donors are lined up too, Hillary. magical thyme Sep 2015 #71

amazing how they can't see that. nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #119

A Machine in isolation Fairgo Sep 2015 #159

The Corpodems are terrified of Sanders for one reason. hifiguy Sep 2015 #149

each whispering campaign, each camera-perfect presser, each stacked deck, each dollar circulating MisterP Sep 2015 #157

Of course not smilingwen Sep 2015 #10

It seems self-evident, doesn't it? deutsey Sep 2015 #16

Thank you smilingwen Sep 2015 #45

As I recall, DNC's "inevitable" candidate locked-down all those endorsements before Bernie even announced. 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #12

As I recall, DNC's "inevitable" candidate locked-down all those endorsements before Bernie even anno AlbertCat Sep 2015 #85

Oh Hillary, get over yourself. The people will decide, not your minions...n/t monmouth4 Sep 2015 #13

Ya mean the crew with single digit approval ratings? 99Forever Sep 2015 #14

... winter is coming Sep 2015 #25

Corporate Mafia owned Congressman that INdemo Sep 2015 #15

IF riversedge Sep 2015 #20

So then you are saying there aren't INdemo Sep 2015 #34

If Sanders wins, I think the congress critters will understand that the wind has shifted LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #89

Yes, they are Democrats. I truly wonder what some of these Bernie folks think randys1 Sep 2015 #93

Republicans will show up in record numbers to vote against Hillary. frylock Sep 2015 #112

Care to answer my question? randys1 Sep 2015 #114

have republicans been chomping at the bit for 20+ years to vote against Obama? frylock Sep 2015 #116

So no, you wont. Too bad randys1 Sep 2015 #117

I need a clarification of your question. frylock Sep 2015 #118

Here it is again randys1 Sep 2015 #120

what could Bernie do that Hillary wouldnt do in the first few years? frylock Sep 2015 #121

So answer the rest of my question. Since you dont even know what he COULD do randys1 Sep 2015 #122

I answered you question. You didn't like the answer. frylock Sep 2015 #124

You didnt answer my question, other than by asking one. randys1 Sep 2015 #127

repubs did not show up to vote against obama,at least not in 2008 questionseverything Sep 2015 #135

You have to be kidding me, you really are going to say rightwingers did NOT show randys1 Sep 2015 #145

many voted for him here in mclean county questionseverything Sep 2015 #151

You have asked a question that cannot be answered.. frylock Sep 2015 #136

Great, why take a chance on "no one fuckin knows" then!? and Hillary isn't Teh Evil to anyone but uponit7771 Sep 2015 #172

Eeyup. HRH at the top of the ticket guarantees hifiguy Sep 2015 #150

Nothing is worth losing the WH over. Nothing. riversedge Sep 2015 #162

yes but there are lot of Republicans posing as Democrats INdemo Sep 2015 #161

Actually the message is one works and plays well with others... Historic NY Sep 2015 #17

So, you are saying that if Bernie got elected, then the DINOs in Congress will treat him djean111 Sep 2015 #81

No your saying that. Historic NY Sep 2015 #167

Actually the message is AlbertCat Sep 2015 #82

Clinton and Sanders voted the same 93% of the time.. frylock Sep 2015 #113

Democratic Party favoribility rating Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #18

Thanks For The Info Uncle Joe !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #24

NBC wanted to start some juicy drama twii Sep 2015 #21

LOL. Welcome to DU cyberswede Sep 2015 #72

She's right. No real drama here. n/t Lil Missy Sep 2015 #26

That is a really weak "dig" Godhumor Sep 2015 #27

How often has she mentioned his name? daleanime Sep 2015 #32

In this interview, right before talking about how grateful she is Godhumor Sep 2015 #37

So you're saying that was the first time on the campaign trail.... daleanime Sep 2015 #49

she is a fool to ignore him. she is lucky he doesn't do negative. roguevalley Sep 2015 #110

"Because they look at what they think I can do for them." demwing Sep 2015 #28

oops MuseRider Sep 2015 #66

^ Wilms Sep 2015 #165

In My view ;) fredamae Sep 2015 #29

The support of a group whose collective approval rating is in single digits. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #30

Democrats have the good sense to separate the two opposing parties. oasis Sep 2015 #70

Go with that. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #99

Of course you'd say it because you know it to be true. oasis Sep 2015 #131

"Because they look at what they think I can do for them." daleanime Sep 2015 #31

Odd isn't it??? haikugal Sep 2015 #38

Exactly so - not what she will do for US bread_and_roses Sep 2015 #97

Good thing WE THE PEOPLE get to vote and choose who WE want in_cog_ni_to Sep 2015 #39

Just stating the facts not a dig. FloridaBlues Sep 2015 #40

That says it all. Her colleagues Autumn Sep 2015 #42

the handwashing continues.... restorefreedom Sep 2015 #53

That's the strangest thing isn't it? Such a clear window. Autumn Sep 2015 #62

what amazes me restorefreedom Sep 2015 #65

of course she does ibegurpard Sep 2015 #43

Party line bullshit pinebox Sep 2015 #47

You did not see Elizabeth Warren on that list so INdemo Sep 2015 #160

Oh please. They're being good little Democrats and following orders. Avalux Sep 2015 #48

Where's that Elizabeth Warren and Alan Grayson endorsement for Sanders? brooklynite Sep 2015 #60

No, cagey Armstead Sep 2015 #69

This is not a bug. It's a feature. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #52

HRC - Greatest Friend Of Oligarchs, Corporations, Banks And Their Political Minions And Henchmen cantbeserious Sep 2015 #54

Don't be shy...tell us how you really feel. brooklynite Sep 2015 #55

Just Did cantbeserious Sep 2015 #57

The truth to some people ozone_man Sep 2015 #163

"Because they look at what they think I can do for them." CrispyQ Sep 2015 #59

Not to mention the corporations that pay the politicians and finance her campaign. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #64

OK. But one thing sticks out here, like a sore thumb. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #67

She's so out of touch that she doesn't realize how bad that sounds. Bonobo Sep 2015 #73

I saw that too. If she said something about all the SheilaT Sep 2015 #91

Hillary must not be into details.... AlbertCat Sep 2015 #75

The fact that no member of Congress will endorse Sanders is meaningful Gothmog Sep 2015 #77

Only to Hillary supporters, methinks. I see Congress as being prudent, this early in the game. djean111 Sep 2015 #84

I get it: DINO bad, INO good. oasis Sep 2015 #90

Calling other Democrats names is not a good way to win support for your candidate Gothmog Sep 2015 #133

Not really.. frylock Sep 2015 #115

Democrats voting in the Democratic primary process will consider this important Gothmog Sep 2015 #132

He's well on his way, thanks to indies and unaffiliated voters like myself. frylock Sep 2015 #138

And yet the polling does not reflect this progress Gothmog Sep 2015 #152

nah, lets see how that polling plays out in a couple of weeks.. frylock Sep 2015 #156

Grapes have thicker skin. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #79

Stealing that.....nt msanthrope Sep 2015 #96

Absolutely ... you could make a lot of wine ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #100

I haven't seen Sanders suppoeters slink off to a special website to whine Armstead Sep 2015 #126

This OP ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #139

Maybe so but there;'s a veritable vineyard among Hillary backers Armstead Sep 2015 #140

I'll be waiting for a Hillary supporter to take something this silly ... JoePhilly Sep 2015 #142

The OP was a posted news article and alaysis from a mainstraem source Armstead Sep 2015 #143

Weak analysis, weak responses. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #144

Weak analysis, weak responses. JoePhilly Sep 2015 #146

Some of Harvey Milk's primary campaign posters did not even name his opponent, they just said: Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #83

Democrats are under pressure to endorse her and she's been running and lining up commitments forever merrily Sep 2015 #86

Hillary has the support of the do nothing Congress Geronimoe Sep 2015 #87

Lining up behind the Wall St. Establishment Candidate may well be political suicide Zorra Sep 2015 #88

I wonder if the pace of HRC endorsements has fallen off. nt ALBliberal Sep 2015 #92

Is it just me jkbRN Sep 2015 #94

From the Republican playbook Phlem Sep 2015 #98

I think the smart ones, and contrary to their actions, there are a few. abakan Sep 2015 #103

All the kids are basing their vote on Hillary's congressional endorsements. frylock Sep 2015 #106

Lets see how Sanders does in the Super Tuesday states Gothmog Sep 2015 #134

so what happens when/'if' the rank and file that's the common folk want Bernie azurnoir Sep 2015 #125

Then no one votes for her. TM99 Sep 2015 #129

"what they think I can do for them" like Super-PAC spending on their campaigns? arcane1 Sep 2015 #128

Oh, no! WillyT has broken the code! randome Sep 2015 #141

They are behind her november3rd Sep 2015 #154

I look forward to the Clintons losing their shit when endorsements switch to Bernie. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #155

Me Too... And I'd Love To Hear Their Fears At This Moment... WillyT Sep 2015 #164

WHAATS HAPPPEEENNNINGGGGGG!!!! AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #166

With friends like members of Congress, who needs enemies? n/t mhatrw Sep 2015 #168

They are all poopy heads and Sanders is not uponit7771 Sep 2015 #171