2016 Postmortem

Armstead

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6. Well, for me the old DU was post 9-11, Bush era stuff where we argued but had certain solidarity

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 08:10 AM

Sep 2015

Some of what's happening now is par for the course. Substitute Sanders for Nader, Dean, Kucinich, Iraq, Pattriot Act...etc. Even candidate Obama. So I'm a little jaded.

But this does seem more personalized and polarized and snitty than usual....But maybe it's a case of old fartdom.

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All supporters of all Democratic primary candidates should feel comfortable here [View all] Armstead Sep 2015 OP

The HRC gang couldn't believe that they were not the kool kids. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #1

Actually, given the amount of Obama-bashing, even going as far as to express the wish DanTex Sep 2015 #9

exactly. Thanks for making my point. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #10

Sorry, I'm sticking around. I still believe DU is for Democrats. DanTex Sep 2015 #13

...and at least the folks on our side are prepared to support the TOS... brooklynite Sep 2015 #84

I've seen Hillary supporters say they wouldn't vote for Bernie in the GE. senz Sep 2015 #96

It's Skinner's world, and we live in it. brooklynite Sep 2015 #105

Skinner sets the rules, but we don't "live" here. And I doubt that Skinner senz Sep 2015 #112

Your OP from a couple days ago, promoting intelligent discussion Deny and Shred Sep 2015 #17

Crazy that got a hide, right? Tell me honestly, would a similar OP by a Bernie supporter DanTex Sep 2015 #19

The OP tried making a point Deny and Shred Sep 2015 #21

Making the OP's case... DanTex Sep 2015 #22

I agree, its inflammatory Deny and Shred Sep 2015 #24

And it's the first response to this OP, and yet you decide to go after me. DanTex Sep 2015 #25

I saw your OP the other day and was appalled Deny and Shred Sep 2015 #33

Appalled, huh? Conspiracies, huh? You mean like the theory that every union that has endorsed DanTex Sep 2015 #34

Yes, appalled. Deny and Shred Sep 2015 #35

Of course I stand by it. It was factual. And, yes, you're not the only person on DU who DanTex Sep 2015 #36

For someone AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #81

Calling supporters of Sanders Hillary bashers is "irrelevant nonsense." merrily Sep 2015 #44

"Self imposed victim status" AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #79

Speaking of blow jobs, you want to put Bill pocoloco Sep 2015 #40

I am going to go out on a limb Deny and Shred Sep 2015 #42

So you think 22 year old adults need their chastity protected? ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2015 #48

What level of effort? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2015 #61

Chicks can't control themselves ... JoePhilly Oct 2015 #128

I call bullshit. Link please. "even going as far as to express the wish that McCain merrily Sep 2015 #43

A hugely popular anti-Hillary poster, and it wasn't remotely taken out of context. DanTex Sep 2015 #45

IOW, calling bs on your prior post was correct. You admit it was only ONE poster, yet your prior merrily Sep 2015 #50

sometimes the "system" restorefreedom Sep 2015 #83

And there is a perfect example, complete with what has become known as 'hippy punching', a silly sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #118

I like hippies and I'm nonviolent, so that's an absurd accusation. DanTex Sep 2015 #120

The attacks on Hillary from the likes of you on DU began before either she or Bernie declared. Metric System Sep 2015 #26

Attacks or disagreement with her policies - there is a difference. jwirr Sep 2015 #41

Criticizing policy decisions is not bashing or attacking. People will just have to get used to the sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #122

Their spring initiative seemed to be about pushing others out. HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #30

That was so well said and so true. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #32

That sums it up nicely. n/t bvf Sep 2015 #38

Thanks, Warren. Background, context, & explanations do help. senz Sep 2015 #66

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Android3.14 Sep 2015 #70

Lordy! It's their first line of response. senz Sep 2015 #77

Well there it is, a completely dishonest alert. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #102

Excellent summary. frylock Sep 2015 #119

That was the old DU. leftofcool Sep 2015 #2

Well, for me the old DU was post 9-11, Bush era stuff where we argued but had certain solidarity Armstead Sep 2015 #6

That was the original DU. Democrats' being against Dimson was a no brainer. merrily Sep 2015 #54

It became obvious in 2008 that the only thing we had in common was a shared hatred of Cheney. frylock Sep 2015 #121

complete fabrication MoveIt Sep 2015 #47

I don't see that everyone feels comfortable here, there has been overt alert stalking on people uponit7771 Sep 2015 #3

Yes there has been SwampG8r Sep 2015 #4

Actually, Skinner has already said he saw no evidence of that at all and he is correct leftofcool Sep 2015 #5

They should open up the stats. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #7

I have no doubt he said that in the past SwampG8r Sep 2015 #8

Actually the complaint was made about Hillarysupporters.com leftofcool Sep 2015 #14

Skinner has already answered those questions in ATA. JTFrog Sep 2015 #51

LOL! merrily Sep 2015 #49

The idea that somehow the 10% or so Clinton supporters would even be able to alert stalk in any DanTex Sep 2015 #11

Whatever makes you quiet SwampG8r Sep 2015 #12

LOL. "Evidence." DanTex Sep 2015 #16

i am not following you. i am not sure you know what mirt does. mopinko Sep 2015 #37

Like you, I have served on MIRT. MineralMan Sep 2015 #56

They can't stand the fact that people are actually waking up and reporting some truths. leftofcool Sep 2015 #15

Not ludicrous at all, neither statement. merrily Sep 2015 #55

Jury results lately seem to allow anything nasty posted about Hillary to stand, so even if there's Metric System Sep 2015 #29

Absolutely untrue. I've seen bad hides on both sides. I've seen bad leaves on both sides. merrily Sep 2015 #57

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #131

Thanks for this, Arm JackInGreen Sep 2015 #18

Snark is like seasoning... Armstead Sep 2015 #20

Notice how admissions of this kind come only from one side--and no, that is not merrily Sep 2015 #60

I've noticed the same thing. It used to separate Democrats from Republicans for me. senz Sep 2015 #75

Yes, we could say that, senz. merrily Sep 2015 #78

Yes, labels don't tell us much anymore. senz Sep 2015 #92

Your posts are astute. I don't think you have any reason to be hard on yourself. merrily Sep 2015 #94

Thanks, but knowing one's limitations and being hard on oneself are senz Sep 2015 #100

If it works for you, I'll shut up merrily Sep 2015 #104

Yeah, we know what works for us as individuals. senz Sep 2015 #109

Exceeded only by his Dad. That, of course, is based only on my own observations of people I know. merrily Sep 2015 #111

Sometimes exaggerating one's faults is a way of senz Sep 2015 #116

I am so glad I have ZERO passion for any of the candidates (so far) because I'm afraid the "passion" seaglass Sep 2015 #23

I had not seen that thread before. But I find NOTHING wrong with the OP. senz Sep 2015 #90

Don't care. n/t seaglass Sep 2015 #93

You care like crazy or you wouldn't have brought it up. senz Sep 2015 #98

You've got one thing right, I've seen your posts, I've seen your consistent nasty comments. seaglass Sep 2015 #99

Wow. senz Sep 2015 #101

Indeed! Turbineguy Sep 2015 #27

I Just Hope . . . Gamecock Lefty Sep 2015 #28

that's what I am talking about Armstead Sep 2015 #31

Good point but floriduck Sep 2015 #39

I just take folks like you Trajan Sep 2015 #52

I just hope you open your eyes to how nasty some of the supporters of Hillary have been. merrily Sep 2015 #53

Huh kenfrequed Sep 2015 #58

Lucky for me I consider candidates not their self declared cohorts because every candidate now and Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #67

Yep. The only single thing supporters of a candidate have in common is.... Armstead Sep 2015 #91

Maybe they are... For Freddie Sep 2015 #68

"I actually liked Bernie before I 'met' some of his supporters on DU." MindfulOne Sep 2015 #108

I have not been comfortable on DU for years PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #46

Please, the Primary forum has turned into a Bernie echo chamber... LannyDeVaney Sep 2015 #59

Are Bernie's supporters responsible for the lack of positive posts about Hillary, too? merrily Sep 2015 #64

Young Folks For Freddie Sep 2015 #74

is discussion and or debate on line more about action/reaction ? olddots Sep 2015 #62

Ok Armstead I agree and I can say that as someone who only stops in now and then, Todays_Illusion Sep 2015 #63

what on earth is a "lefty libertarian third way member?" merrily Sep 2015 #65

You can identify them by what they promote and the ideas they support. Todays_Illusion Sep 2015 #69

See Reply 65. In this race, third way is represented most closely by Hillary and the left of the merrily Sep 2015 #71

Gotta agree with Merrily - you are making no sense. [n/t] Maedhros Sep 2015 #106

LOL, you know, the radical liberal/conservative, hot/cold, light/dark, pro-choice/pro-life, FSogol Sep 2015 #72

I know who you mean, and I hope that fucker stops disrupting "the Democratic" yesterday. merrily Sep 2015 #76

Honestly I am trying to discern some meaning from your comment but haven't found any so far. Todays_Illusion Sep 2015 #82

You don't see the nonsensical oxymoron in you post? FSogol Sep 2015 #86

I see that as a signal this discussion is over. Todays_Illusion Sep 2015 #117

If folks feel uncomfortable, that's their problem bigwillq Sep 2015 #73

That would be your personal view and ignores all the angst that occurs on this site and you are Todays_Illusion Sep 2015 #85

Can you give some examples of the talking points developed by the conservative think tanks Maedhros Sep 2015 #107

Remember the Heritage Found and other conservative sites and their directions to the tea party sign Todays_Illusion Sep 2015 #110

Have you seen that kind of rhetoric on DU? Maedhros Sep 2015 #114

Perhaps I need a list of the asshats. I frequent a site that allows unlimited user IDs so habitually Todays_Illusion Sep 2015 #124

What do you mean by "third way lefty libertarian?" Maedhros Oct 2015 #125

Maedhros, I am not a poly sci teacher, just another internet liberal. If you haven't untangled the Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #129

I disagree with your interpretations. [n/a] Maedhros Oct 2015 #132

Thanks for the one sided dialog. Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #133

Family For Freddie Sep 2015 #88

+1 NealK Sep 2015 #113

Comfort shouldn't be valued over truth in DU. Now isn't the time for "comfortable." Now is the time ancianita Sep 2015 #80

When does delivering truth require a personal insult? I believe it is the personal attacks Armstead Todays_Illusion Sep 2015 #87

I do agree with that. Absolutely. I'm all for reminding each other of that. ancianita Sep 2015 #89

It is not just supporters of candidates but there has been concerted effort for some time Skidmore Sep 2015 #95

I don't agree. Armstead Sep 2015 #97

You are wrong. Skidmore Sep 2015 #103

Its much more complicated than that Armstead Sep 2015 #115

I'm a woman. I don't feel like anyone has tried to run me off because I'm a woman. liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #123

+1 Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #126

I agree with that. LWolf Oct 2015 #127

This is no longer a democratic board workinclasszero Oct 2015 #130