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In reply to the discussion: Iowa Democrats worry Bernie Sanders couldn't win a general election or tame Washington [View all]LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)103. On what issues/votes are Republicans going to side with President Clinton?
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Iowa Democrats worry Bernie Sanders couldn't win a general election or tame Washington [View all]
Gothmog
Sep 2015
OP
It's political reality. Politics is ever the art of the possible, the art of the next best...
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#7
The subtext is that Hillary *is* electable. Based on her rather significant net negatives I
LondonReign2
Sep 2015
#82
Hillary's negatives are a concern. But Sanders starting at -50% is a sure loser. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#89
He's absolutely at -50%. As soon as the video ad runs which we all know is coming...
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#107
yes, Hillary is electable based on her good work and committment to the people.
riversedge
Sep 2015
#156
This is the primary process and voters can support a candidate for any reason they want
Gothmog
Sep 2015
#142
They certainly can. And if they choose more of the same, they'll get more of the same
Armstead
Sep 2015
#182
you realize you're probably going to be alerted by the Bernie's for a "disruptive, hurtful, rude,...
Bill USA
Sep 2015
#192
Not at that moment. But when the kids become adults they appreciate the levelheadedness in hindsight
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#8
They don't endorse him because he is fighting to end their gravy train of campaign donations.
Dustlawyer
Sep 2015
#19
At least you acknowledge he gets no support in congress. That should be the end of his candidacy
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#30
no, the end of your candidacy is when the people find you untrustworthy
virtualobserver
Sep 2015
#39
Then that should be Sanders. He is promising things he knows he cannot deliver. And you all know it.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#53
I hope I never get so cynical that I would ever give up and accept that America will
Dustlawyer
Sep 2015
#147
That's not the question. She's not the one promising to be transformative or different.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#112
Sanders has been in Congress for a long time with no significant legislation to his credit
Gothmog
Sep 2015
#144
You could find it if you were actually looking instead of repeating talking points
jeff47
Sep 2015
#162
You mean besides that he would be a completely ineffectual President as a result? nt
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#51
Not even close! We will be behind him as he uses the Bully Pulpit like never before!
Dustlawyer
Sep 2015
#141
While the contest continues it really doesn't matter who wins if Democrats don't control congress.
olegramps
Sep 2015
#56
I don't any knowledge of such polls. I would appreciate if you would refer to them.
olegramps
Sep 2015
#167
Perhaps as we move closer to election time the same will happen for Sanders.
olegramps
Oct 2015
#198
So you believe that Sanders literally stands alone in being against the plutocracy?
mythology
Sep 2015
#125
Congress and others stick with who's "comfortable," another word for status quo. Who's "comfortable"
ancianita
Sep 2015
#155
But he'll make a lot of speeches and pound the table. That'll get stuff done.
bluestateguy
Sep 2015
#136
This Texas voter thinks the same and has been asking for months why anyone should chance
uponit7771
Sep 2015
#3
If all that can be done is cuss and give out shit...I'll take that over waffling and echoing
Armstead
Sep 2015
#28
If this is the case, then what significant piece of legislation did he get through Congress?
Gothmog
Sep 2015
#145
1. veto power 2. bully pulpit 3. have masses of people at his back ready and willing to do what it
magical thyme
Sep 2015
#58
Every Repub in the House would hold up each vote against a Prez Sanders as a badge of honor
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#6
Every GOP in House would also hold a vote against a Prez Clinton as a badge of honor
Armstead
Sep 2015
#11
Sure. Make sure you take 50% of the electorate for the Republican into account up front.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#13
Sure. Hillary carries the entire Obama coalition plus an additional 10% of the Latino vote and an
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#25
Did you read my post and the post I responded to? If you read it you know exactly what I said and
Autumn
Sep 2015
#193
Nope, 50% will not vote for a Socialist so Sanders is down that much before we start.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#48
Yes. Dislike of Socialists has been pretty steady for the last 10 years or so.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#88
We should always vote taking all realities into account including this one. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#26
There are tons of realities I don't like either. They are still realities. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#61
Sure. It will be Jan 2023 at the earliest before we can get a Democratic congress.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#71
Exactly what I said. And therefore there is no point to Sanders' candidacy.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#31
Nope. Assuming all Democrats will not be able to accomplish much, we have a perfectly acceptable
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#50
If he has hundreds of thousands of people calling, writing and faxing congress he can.
Qutzupalotl
Sep 2015
#60
This is false on its face, Sanders supporters act like there was no Obama movement of any issue
uponit7771
Sep 2015
#187
On what issues/votes are Republicans going to side with President Clinton?
LondonReign2
Sep 2015
#103
There is zero hope for change from a Democrat until Jan 2023. The GOP controls the House
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#15
This is actually just another Vote For Hillary!!! OP. Trying to dishearten or whatever.
djean111
Sep 2015
#37
Bingo. Hillary "tames Washington" by just going along with Republicans on War, Banks, Oil...
MindfulOne
Sep 2015
#110
A large number of people have concerns about the viability of Sanders in the general election
Gothmog
Sep 2015
#148
Otherwise known as "being the best person for the job is not important" meme. Look, a squirrel!
GoneFishin
Sep 2015
#100
No candidate is ever guaranteed of winning. If you like him then vote for him or not. But this
GoneFishin
Sep 2015
#98
I think you're going to see a lot of older women (50+) voting for HRC and younger women
WI_DEM
Sep 2015
#101
Your post was based on the flawed premise that there are no consequences if Sanders loses
Gothmog
Sep 2015
#165
How come no one ever notices that Hillary is the weakest in the general election polls?
jfern
Sep 2015
#169
"need to select the candidate that they are most comfortable with"- is nonsense.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#171
"Why do only a tiny number of democrats, & it's incredibly small, appear to consider him electable?"
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#183