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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Iowa Democrats worry Bernie Sanders couldn't win a general election or tame Washington [View all]kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)106. Misleading title.
It should read:
"This one Iowan democrat I met claims she won't support Bernie"
Yeah, there are whole polls of people that claim they will support this candidate or that. This article isn't really worth the ink or electrons.
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Iowa Democrats worry Bernie Sanders couldn't win a general election or tame Washington [View all]
Gothmog
Sep 2015
OP
It's political reality. Politics is ever the art of the possible, the art of the next best...
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#7
The subtext is that Hillary *is* electable. Based on her rather significant net negatives I
LondonReign2
Sep 2015
#82
Hillary's negatives are a concern. But Sanders starting at -50% is a sure loser. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#89
He's absolutely at -50%. As soon as the video ad runs which we all know is coming...
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#107
yes, Hillary is electable based on her good work and committment to the people.
riversedge
Sep 2015
#156
This is the primary process and voters can support a candidate for any reason they want
Gothmog
Sep 2015
#142
They certainly can. And if they choose more of the same, they'll get more of the same
Armstead
Sep 2015
#182
you realize you're probably going to be alerted by the Bernie's for a "disruptive, hurtful, rude,...
Bill USA
Sep 2015
#192
Not at that moment. But when the kids become adults they appreciate the levelheadedness in hindsight
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#8
They don't endorse him because he is fighting to end their gravy train of campaign donations.
Dustlawyer
Sep 2015
#19
At least you acknowledge he gets no support in congress. That should be the end of his candidacy
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#30
no, the end of your candidacy is when the people find you untrustworthy
virtualobserver
Sep 2015
#39
Then that should be Sanders. He is promising things he knows he cannot deliver. And you all know it.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#53
I hope I never get so cynical that I would ever give up and accept that America will
Dustlawyer
Sep 2015
#147
That's not the question. She's not the one promising to be transformative or different.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#112
Sanders has been in Congress for a long time with no significant legislation to his credit
Gothmog
Sep 2015
#144
You could find it if you were actually looking instead of repeating talking points
jeff47
Sep 2015
#162
You mean besides that he would be a completely ineffectual President as a result? nt
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#51
Not even close! We will be behind him as he uses the Bully Pulpit like never before!
Dustlawyer
Sep 2015
#141
While the contest continues it really doesn't matter who wins if Democrats don't control congress.
olegramps
Sep 2015
#56
I don't any knowledge of such polls. I would appreciate if you would refer to them.
olegramps
Sep 2015
#167
Perhaps as we move closer to election time the same will happen for Sanders.
olegramps
Oct 2015
#198
So you believe that Sanders literally stands alone in being against the plutocracy?
mythology
Sep 2015
#125
Congress and others stick with who's "comfortable," another word for status quo. Who's "comfortable"
ancianita
Sep 2015
#155
But he'll make a lot of speeches and pound the table. That'll get stuff done.
bluestateguy
Sep 2015
#136
This Texas voter thinks the same and has been asking for months why anyone should chance
uponit7771
Sep 2015
#3
If all that can be done is cuss and give out shit...I'll take that over waffling and echoing
Armstead
Sep 2015
#28
If this is the case, then what significant piece of legislation did he get through Congress?
Gothmog
Sep 2015
#145
1. veto power 2. bully pulpit 3. have masses of people at his back ready and willing to do what it
magical thyme
Sep 2015
#58
Every Repub in the House would hold up each vote against a Prez Sanders as a badge of honor
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#6
Every GOP in House would also hold a vote against a Prez Clinton as a badge of honor
Armstead
Sep 2015
#11
Sure. Make sure you take 50% of the electorate for the Republican into account up front.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#13
Sure. Hillary carries the entire Obama coalition plus an additional 10% of the Latino vote and an
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#25
Did you read my post and the post I responded to? If you read it you know exactly what I said and
Autumn
Sep 2015
#193
Nope, 50% will not vote for a Socialist so Sanders is down that much before we start.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#48
Yes. Dislike of Socialists has been pretty steady for the last 10 years or so.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#88
We should always vote taking all realities into account including this one. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#26
There are tons of realities I don't like either. They are still realities. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#61
Sure. It will be Jan 2023 at the earliest before we can get a Democratic congress.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#71
Exactly what I said. And therefore there is no point to Sanders' candidacy.
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#31
Nope. Assuming all Democrats will not be able to accomplish much, we have a perfectly acceptable
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#50
If he has hundreds of thousands of people calling, writing and faxing congress he can.
Qutzupalotl
Sep 2015
#60
This is false on its face, Sanders supporters act like there was no Obama movement of any issue
uponit7771
Sep 2015
#187
On what issues/votes are Republicans going to side with President Clinton?
LondonReign2
Sep 2015
#103
There is zero hope for change from a Democrat until Jan 2023. The GOP controls the House
stevenleser
Sep 2015
#15
This is actually just another Vote For Hillary!!! OP. Trying to dishearten or whatever.
djean111
Sep 2015
#37
Bingo. Hillary "tames Washington" by just going along with Republicans on War, Banks, Oil...
MindfulOne
Sep 2015
#110
A large number of people have concerns about the viability of Sanders in the general election
Gothmog
Sep 2015
#148
Otherwise known as "being the best person for the job is not important" meme. Look, a squirrel!
GoneFishin
Sep 2015
#100
No candidate is ever guaranteed of winning. If you like him then vote for him or not. But this
GoneFishin
Sep 2015
#98
I think you're going to see a lot of older women (50+) voting for HRC and younger women
WI_DEM
Sep 2015
#101
Your post was based on the flawed premise that there are no consequences if Sanders loses
Gothmog
Sep 2015
#165
How come no one ever notices that Hillary is the weakest in the general election polls?
jfern
Sep 2015
#169
"need to select the candidate that they are most comfortable with"- is nonsense.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#171
"Why do only a tiny number of democrats, & it's incredibly small, appear to consider him electable?"
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2015
#183