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Bernblu

(441 posts)
32. Hillary and Bill do it for Money and Power
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:59 PM
Sep 2015

I think Hillary and Bill have been doing it for money and power since they began. Bill also wants fame and to be liked. They tell themselves and everyone that they are doing to help society but the compromises that they made with "the powers that be" show that their primary intention is to help themselves. They are not uncommon in this as most contemporary politicians have the similar motivations. Hillary and Bill are more relentless than most and that is one of the keys to their success and one reason why Hillary is unpopular among non-Democrats.

Bernie is different. Bernie is an idealist who wants power to do the most good for the greatest number of people. He will not back down and change his ideals and principles, even if it means losing. That is why he freely admits to being a Democratic Socialist. He is a most admirable man in his steadfast belief in his ideals and principles.

The question is whether the country is ready for him and (the political revolution he is offering) and whether the people who would benefit most can see beyond politics as usual and back him. In either case he is offering the possibility for real change. We are at the tipping point and it can go either way.

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She is not only interested in self-enrichment, she also wants power. virtualobserver Sep 2015 #1
Everyone running for president, by definition, wants power. DanTex Sep 2015 #2
yes, but does everyone refer to it as "my precious"? virtualobserver Sep 2015 #6
LOL. +10000 azmom Sep 2015 #19
OMG!! That is hilarious!! Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #59
Gee not a powerful woman. Oh Noes! upaloopa Sep 2015 #3
why are you making this about gender? virtualobserver Sep 2015 #9
Because people have always attacked Hillary upaloopa Sep 2015 #12
Well, ambition and a desire for power are a requirement for this particular job virtualobserver Sep 2015 #14
Especially a "calculating" women with power. How unsavory! DanTex Sep 2015 #11
" Especially a "calculating" women with power. How unsavory!" malokvale77 Sep 2015 #30
There is no way the average, well to do person would oasis Sep 2015 #4
Bill gets about twice as much per speech. jeff47 Sep 2015 #5
The highest Hillary's gotten that I've seen is $325. DanTex Sep 2015 #7
We'll never know if they'll go up because she'll never become president. MindfulOne Sep 2015 #36
Hillary can't win the GE? ellisonz Oct 2015 #50
In some careers, such as politics, purchasing, etc, edgineered Sep 2015 #8
M E G A L O M A N I A would explain all that. Easy. immoderate Sep 2015 #10
Is that why Bernie is running? murielm99 Sep 2015 #13
Of course not. Men seeking power is a natural instinct. The man is the hunter. The woman is the DanTex Sep 2015 #15
It does (or would) explain things, doesn't it? immoderate Sep 2015 #18
not financial gain at all restorefreedom Sep 2015 #16
Come now, around here you either have a wingerish hatred towards Hillary or you're 3rd Way!! uponit7771 Sep 2015 #17
Right... cause NO WAY someone could use the presidency to acquire wealth & power Bucky Sep 2015 #20
Certainly not Hillary -- she'll lose (a lot of) money by doing it. DanTex Sep 2015 #21
Sure, look how poor they are today from their collective 12 years in the Executive Branch. Bucky Sep 2015 #22
Quite the opposite, she's rich, and draws huge amounts of money on the speaking circuit. DanTex Sep 2015 #23
No one is saying she's not capable of delayed gratification Bucky Sep 2015 #24
It's not a question of delayed. She simply won't be able to earn enough money to DanTex Sep 2015 #26
So you're saying after 8-years of a Hillary Presidency she and Bill will be broke? n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #25
No, they'd be rich, just not as rich as they would be after 8 years of non-presidency. DanTex Sep 2015 #27
I hope you understand how insipid your "noblesse oblige" argument sounds Bucky Sep 2015 #28
Who said anything about "noblesse oblige"? I'm just rebutting the truly insipid claim that DanTex Sep 2015 #29
That weird, I've never heard that complain about Hillary..... daleanime Sep 2015 #31
Hillary and Bill do it for Money and Power Bernblu Sep 2015 #32
Welcome to DU. And of course "Bernie is different". DanTex Sep 2015 #33
Which came first the chicken or the egg? Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #34
The egg. jeff47 Sep 2015 #35
That's not an answer to the cultural question. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #46
Yeah....pedantic technical answer was kinda the point. jeff47 Sep 2015 #47
I don't believe you're clueless, jeff. You're a smart man. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #49
self-enrichment comes in many forms... smiley Sep 2015 #37
People don't reconcile over infidelity? ellisonz Oct 2015 #51
Typically, the adulterous partner has the class to keep it on the down low. Divernan Oct 2015 #52
lol ellisonz Oct 2015 #60
Ah, if only Bill had the class to keep it "private business" Divernan Oct 2015 #62
You don't have to forgive Bill to not vilify Hillary... ellisonz Oct 2015 #67
sure it happens... smiley Oct 2015 #55
That's perhaps true. ellisonz Oct 2015 #61
perhaps... smiley Oct 2015 #66
Agreed! ellisonz Oct 2015 #68
TPP, Glass-Steagall, and her corporate donors Fearless Sep 2015 #38
Reality check: if Trump was all about self-enrichment, he would not be running for president. jfern Sep 2015 #39
+1000 nt Logical Sep 2015 #41
Oh FFS are you reaching. No one if falling for this stuff either. nt Logical Sep 2015 #40
She's NOT in this for financial gain. She's in it for EGO. First Female President size ego. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #42
And most of her supporters support her just to achieve that goal - it's all so mindless. reformist2 Sep 2015 #48
the self enrichment occurs once she leaves office.nt m-lekktor Sep 2015 #43
Clinton Family Foundation gets enriched while she's in office Divernan Oct 2015 #57
Really. You "hear" over and over again that her campaign if for financial gain? Links please Luminous Animal Sep 2015 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author GeorgeGist Sep 2015 #45
Well of course she's not after money. She already has like $50 million! reformist2 Oct 2015 #53
Screeching halt of corporate/foreign govt."donations" to Clinton Foundation Divernan Oct 2015 #54
Maybe she should apply a "smoothing coefficient" to her financial graphs Android3.14 Oct 2015 #56
When she is finally SwampG8r Oct 2015 #58
I call absolute bullshit on this because a lot of the speaking fees for her and bill are 100%... Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #63
OF COURSE she's not after money. She's after POWER. John Poet Oct 2015 #64
Everyone running for president wants power, by definition. DanTex Oct 2015 #65
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