2016 Postmortem

sabrina 1

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44. How sad, really. I see a lot of projection in that comment. I care about THIS COUNTRY.

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 11:55 PM

Sep 2015

Sanders doesn't need help, hadn't you noticed? All he needed was to let people know where he stood on the issues and how consistent he has been all his life on those issues, and he didn't need to do another thing. He has defended Hillary over and over again, and yet you slam him and his supporters about something only you seem to be concerned about.

Hillary has major issues problems, period People are not, NOT supporting because they don't like her, they are choosing a leader for this country and they want someone who gets it RIGHT when they have the power to make such decisions.

You are trying to distract people from their right to do what they believe is best for this, projecting your own tactics onto good, decent people, making stuff up and thinking somehow this is going to help, who?

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Clinton angry at gay-friendly passports, worried about Fox/Palin [View all] Prism Sep 2015 OP

Ah yes, Hillary the "Leader", worried more about bad publicity than real families. peacebird Sep 2015 #1

Hillary shows her true colors once again...why this country needs a visionary like Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #27

she can live with that. It really is roguevalley Sep 2015 #36

If Senator Warren said yes to being the V.P. if she was selected... Duckfan Oct 2015 #55

I think it's a foregone conclusion Warren would say yes to Bernie when he offers her the VP slot on the ticket...and when duty calls... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #67

No. Warren can be far more effective in the Senate. jeff47 Oct 2015 #80

Disappointing email dump today, wasn't it? The disappointment is palpable, and not just RW. Sad. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #2

Disappointment requires expectations Prism Sep 2015 #3

I don't care what she says to her staff in emails. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #11

I think what she says here matters Prism Sep 2015 #14

somehow she doesn't seem artislife Oct 2015 #57

Oh, yes. Her thoughts on this issue do matter. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #79

Very disappointing to see that Clinton was letting Palin and Fox News drive the agenda. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #19

The OP quotes Hillary more worried about Fox, something that has always made me angry about Dems, sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #40

Yep. I guess the McCarthy revelations murielm99 Oct 2015 #58

More proof Hillary doesn't have character or leadership qualities to be president. askew Sep 2015 #4

The WP article "proves" there was great disappointment in the email dump today, and anything Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #5

Were you disappointed? Frankly I could not care less about these distractions which is why THIS OP sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #41

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The disappointment of nada on the email and the McCarthy bombshell made for a sad, sad, day. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #8

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I'm a Sanders supporter and I think the McCarthy bombshell was great! iwillalwayswonderwhy Sep 2015 #42

How sad, really. I see a lot of projection in that comment. I care about THIS COUNTRY. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #44

Prism is gay and is not a "Hillary hater". beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #16

One thing is fo sho...Bernie will not disappoint. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #28

He's not perfect but he never pandered to the right wing. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #31

I hear ya...but Bernie's perfect enough for me! Gotta love him! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #33

Oh I do, I had the pleasure of both meeting and voting for him. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #35

It is sickening especially since he has stood up for their candidate over and over again. It's sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #46

I'm sure some of them are, swift boating Dem candidates makes most DUers cringe. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #47

And it's failing miserably, as Bernie continues his upward trend as more and more people get to know sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #50

Yes, embarrassed and ashamed...hard to believe the venomous personal attacks against Bernie being spewed by some, not all, on the other side. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #69

I see why you Vermonters love you some Bernie. Our two Senators are both Democrats, but I'd trade em in a heartbeat for Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #68

You do realize that you can have them all Mnpaul Oct 2015 #118

My gay ass will never vote for her and shit like this is just the tip of the iceberg for me. m-lekktor Sep 2015 #7

The completely baffling thing for me Prism Sep 2015 #12

BS. I think you should look into her efforts at the State Department RE: LGBT employees. Metric System Sep 2015 #17

I'm well aware of what she did at State Prism Sep 2015 #18

then why was she the first Obama administration figure to do it dsc Oct 2015 #75

Take off your partisan glasses for a sec there Prism Oct 2015 #103

You mean, like what she said in this email? (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #81

LMAO! leftofcool Sep 2015 #15

You know your response is laughing at a LGBT person for objecting to bigotry toward LGBT persons. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #22

I'm with you! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #29

What is sad is DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #51

Lot's of room under Hillary's bus passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #54

+1. Well said. delrem Oct 2015 #64

We want a leader, not a weathervane. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #9

She waited until gay marriage had 58% supporting to come out for it jfern Sep 2015 #10

Seriously...Hillary obviously needs better pollsters to tell her what to think. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #30

Hillary is the pragmatic candidate. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #13

That's him being actively uninvolved in the legislative process. Bonobo Sep 2015 #25

Today's meme is Bernie doesn't care about women and lgbt people. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #26

+1 Go Vols Oct 2015 #104

Bernie is as perfect as we are ever going to get in a politician, and in this country now controlled sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #48

no principles. This is so discouraging. If she makes it to the white house, it will be Doctor_J Sep 2015 #20

Her chances of makin it to the White House diminish by the day. Go Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #32

Sounds more than just political, she could live with letting us use other descriptors as long as Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #21

You're so right Blue...yuk! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #34

Politically she'd gain more by standing on the side of progress Hydra Oct 2015 #53

I agree. delrem Oct 2015 #141

afraid of a Palin spanking? reddread Sep 2015 #23

where is the part where she was "angry" or "threw a fit"? not in the article linked nt msongs Sep 2015 #24

Yup. In fact she was a 100% cold political calculating machine. delrem Oct 2015 #66

So tired of Hillary's carefully poll-tested triangulation...how bout some good old-fashioned leadership? - such as that consistently displayed by Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #72

I would need to see the entire conversation moobu2 Sep 2015 #37

She's such a great person? nichomachus Oct 2015 #60

looks like you've fallen far all the right wing propaganda moobu2 Oct 2015 #76

she is just DREAMY! LOL snooper2 Oct 2015 #88

She's also the only viable Democrat in the race. moobu2 Oct 2015 #95

It was taken out of context Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #78

"She's such a great person" MindfulOne Oct 2015 #85

Yup. Every position is about zentrum Sep 2015 #38

Hmmm... toshiba783 Sep 2015 #43

"The new language was quickly dropped." Ino Oct 2015 #77

3 ... 2 ... 1 ... "10 Signs that Sanders Has a Gay Problem"; "Why Are Sanders Supporters So MisterP Sep 2015 #45

Ironic she's speaking to Human Rights Campaig this weekend, with Joe Biden, who has better cred? tomm2thumbs Oct 2015 #49

Is this the same Human Rights Council headed by Saudi Arabia? n/t nichomachus Oct 2015 #56

It's called the Human Rights Campaign. Maybe you would know the name, if you cared. Metric System Oct 2015 #97

thanks, updated tomm2thumbs Oct 2015 #106

Clinton reportedly turned down the opportunity to deliver a keynote speech at the Human Rights Campa Go Vols Oct 2015 #105

Chill! She's still "evolving"! Check back with her in January, 2017. n/t RufusTFirefly Oct 2015 #52

This is kind of sad. Just another time when Clinton was more worried about PatrickforO Oct 2015 #59

Prism, here's a screen cap of that very email. It's sickening. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #61

To call this "sickening" is being kind. Can't wait to hear Hillary's excuse for this crapola. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #71

I liked Hillary quite a bit before this campaign DemocraticWing Oct 2015 #62

How is "Parent 1" and "Parent 2" gay friendly? LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #63

I agree with your comments. MADem Oct 2015 #65

If you were adopted by two gay men, who should be put down as "mother"? jeff47 Oct 2015 #82

I understand it. LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #100

No, you don't. Because there was no "two mother option". jeff47 Oct 2015 #101

She changed it to include Mother, Father and Parent LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #113

Do you really not understand the difference between bio parents and legal parents? Maven Oct 2015 #96

So an adoptive mother is not a mother? LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #114

She's everything I thought she was...ugh! haikugal Oct 2015 #70

This comes as no surprise to me. TM99 Oct 2015 #73

Explain how being labelled "parent 2" is gay friendly? No gay parent I know would stand to be msanthrope Oct 2015 #74

Calling a gay man "mother" or a lesbian "father" is gay friendly? (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #83

If they choose it. Allowing the person applying to choose their own label...? msanthrope Oct 2015 #89

And when neither woman wants to declare herself a man on a government form? jeff47 Oct 2015 #91

Then they both choose mother. They choose. nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #93

The form had a space for "Mother" and "Father". They did not get to both choose mother. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #102

Right...and the point is that HRC was saying you don't change msanthrope Oct 2015 #107

Are you really really really really Puglover Oct 2015 #108

Edited Puglover Oct 2015 #109

What is your alternative solution? MindfulOne Oct 2015 #84

Mother and Father. Have the person choose what they are. nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #87

What if two women as parents both want to identify as mother? MindfulOne Oct 2015 #92

Then that's what they both choose. Read the email...... msanthrope Oct 2015 #94

The compromise was "Mother or Parent 1" and "Father or Parent 2," from what I've read. Metric System Oct 2015 #98

Apparently these folks never read "Heather has two mommies". JoePhilly Oct 2015 #99

Why don't you look at the form before you jump to conclusions. LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #120

Why don't you look at the form in use at the time of the email 2011, and not the 2013 version? MindfulOne Oct 2015 #121

What form is THAT you just posted? LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #136

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #86

Riiiight. LGBT families are "kind of" "sort of" equal but, ya know, second class. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #90

The furious spinning Puglover Oct 2015 #110

How can Hillary face down Putin if she can't even face down Palin et al? frylock Oct 2015 #111

She protected America from a bought of broadcasted Wasila Whine. LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #128

She protected America. frylock Oct 2015 #129

....And heeeere's Bristol... LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #130

I can't imagine what Hillary would do to avoid having Bristol chirping at her.. frylock Oct 2015 #131

Ironically, the day Hillary sent this email LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #132

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #112

Here's the actual form... LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #115

Hillary designed that form????? JoePhilly Oct 2015 #116

That is NOT the form that was in use at the time of the email. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #122

I get that, but DU is making Hillary's more inclusive alternative LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #126

Post #112 in this thread was hidden (not mine) ... Why??? JoePhilly Oct 2015 #117

Alert stalking Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #124

Looks that way to me too. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #125

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #119

Some serious spin going on here. The old form said "mother" or "father", here's a pic: MindfulOne Oct 2015 #123

She opposed the offered change and suggested an alternative, LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #127

You don't think lgbt people should be disgusted with her over this? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #133

Some people on DU who identify as gay LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #134

So they have every right to be disgusted with her, this isn't just an excuse to bash Hillary? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #135

No. You are citing my response to Mindful One. LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #137

Of course they do, but the op was accused of being a Hillary hater for posting this. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #138

Remember when Hillary wasn't saying or doing anything this past spring? LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #139

Then take it up with the Hillary "bashers" beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #140

Does Hillary care more what Fox News and Sarah Palin think of her jfern Oct 2015 #142

But look, yon sunlight beams down upon her Aerows Oct 2015 #143