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Fawke Em

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97. As opposed to the thousands Hill's vote on Iraq killed.

Reply to MADem (Reply #54)

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 09:29 AM

Oct 2015

But, hey, most of them aren't American.

Just human.

With families.

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From Slate.com - "Bernie Sanders, Gun Nut" [View all] George II Oct 2015 OP

And the Slate article would be incorrect. Left Ear Oct 2015 #1

The Slate article IS correct, and the rest of your post is irrelevant to the subject at hand! George II Oct 2015 #5

I'm a little dismayed Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #2

Oh, it's made the rounds before--the push-back and whinging was extreme. MADem Oct 2015 #54

As opposed to the thousands Hill's vote on Iraq killed. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #97

Who voted to fund that war, every year, faithfully? Your candidate. MADem Oct 2015 #100

As he's repeatedly stated, he voted to fund it because he didn't want Fawke Em Oct 2015 #106

He's allowed to have a "but" or a "because"--but no one else is. OK. Sure. MADem Oct 2015 #108

Well played! Kudos for living up to your user name! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #61

Bernie on the issues Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #3

Anyone who calls Bernie a gun nut is either delusional or a complete moron. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #4

Read the article. Remember, the NRA endorsed Sanders when he first ran for Congress in 1990! George II Oct 2015 #9

I read it the first time and all five times it was posted here, George, keep up. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #10

But he repeatedly voted for easy access to guns AND legal protection for gun manufacturers. George II Oct 2015 #15

Obama talked about the difference between urban and rural gun use after Sandy Hook: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #22

Yea, Vermont is the good state so let's do sue gun manufacturers. leftofcool Oct 2015 #85

What does that word salad mean? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #89

Rachel Maddow, delusional, complete moron...? MADem Oct 2015 #63

If she called him a gun nut, then yes. Didn't you read my post? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #64

Oh, I see. They can call him "not a liberal" or a "conservative" MADem Oct 2015 #68

. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #69

Rachel Maddow QUOTED from the "gun nut" essay, but since she didn't say those two words, it doesn't MADem Oct 2015 #72

Fallacies, fallacies everywhere... beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #74

No, I didn't--you were the one who opened up Pandora's Box with your 'moronic and delusional' MADem Oct 2015 #75

Except Rachel didn't call Bernie a "gun nut", did she? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #77

Nooooooooooo!!!!!! She only QUOTED EXTENSIVELY from the GUN NUT ESSAY!!!!!!!! MADem Oct 2015 #78

So you were wrong when you said this: "Rachel Maddow, delusional, complete moron...?" beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #79

No, I wasn't--she linked to the GUN NUT ESSAY. Poor you--trying SO hard to parse!! MADem Oct 2015 #80

SO much HYPERBOLE and CAPITALIZATION and DESPERATION in those posts! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #81

Ooooooh, yeah....and you said Good Night, but you just can't leave me be, can ya? MADem Oct 2015 #84

Sometimes you should just admit you are wrong and move on. Vattel Oct 2015 #92

Rachel LINKED to -- and quoted from -- the "GUN NUT" essay. Are you saying that she wasn't MADem Oct 2015 #99

Quoting from an article and linking to it does not imply that you agree with everything in it, Vattel Oct 2015 #103

Of course he does, but he will twist and spin and deflect for days in order to PROVE he's not wrong. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #107

Look over here!! I mean "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" MADem Oct 2015 #109

I agree. nt LWolf Oct 2015 #94

... or a disingenuous hyperpartisan who will say whatever they think it takes to win. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #101

As well as dishonest and exploitative to blame Bernie for this tragedy. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #102

The Clinton Camp has very little to work with in attacking Bernie. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #105

Don't question Bernie's votes, only Hillary's emails and spam folder. BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #6

For the thread win! Ha ha ha! nt MADem Oct 2015 #73

Thread winner! leftofcool Oct 2015 #86

I am not a gun owner Puzzledtraveller Oct 2015 #7

PLCAA is not pro-gun ibegurpard Oct 2015 #8

You're completely wrong. BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #12

You are wrong TeddyR Oct 2015 #13

This wasn't just about manufacturers, it was about gun shops as well. BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #18

Gun shops can be sued if they break the law too. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #50

yup ibegurpard Oct 2015 #55

It's a dumb analogy. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #56

correct ibegurpard Oct 2015 #20

Wrong analogy. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #14

You need to read the PLCAA. You're using Wayne LaPierre talking points here. George II Oct 2015 #19

No, I'm using that poster's "logic". Gun manufacturers can be sued for defective products. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #24

What is "Camp Weathervane"? I read the legislation that Sanders voted for, it supports gun mfrs. George II Oct 2015 #40

"Why are you sticking up for gun manufacturers?" beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #44

A tragedy that was enabled, in part, to "your candidate". Thank you. George II Oct 2015 #57

Bernie voted for gun control. What has your candidate done to solve the problem, George? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #60

I have ibegurpard Oct 2015 #27

And what talking point would that be? Left Ear Oct 2015 #35

It's not an analogy. Its the law. BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #25

You can sue gun manufacturers if they break the law or make a defective product beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #31

And that's it. They got nearly complete immunity against all civil lawsuits. BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #36

They're not immune if they break the law. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #37

Yet, like the example I gave; a victims family of a drunk driver BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #41

Using your "logic" the victims would sue the manufacturer of the car used in the accident. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #47

your analogy is poor ibegurpard Oct 2015 #53

Gun manufacturers don't directly sell guns to the public hack89 Oct 2015 #96

Correct, and the "law" that covers them was voted for by Sen. Sandes. George II Oct 2015 #45

They can't sue them for making a legal product that's used illegally. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #49

It's better than the cigarette and gun manufactuers lawsuits analogy that was used earlier Autumn Oct 2015 #38

nope ibegurpard Oct 2015 #16

Yes, but that's it, only defective guns. Nothing else. BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #29

They manufacture guns and sell it to FFL dealers only. Left Ear Oct 2015 #42

I linked the exceptions upthread ibegurpard Oct 2015 #46

You're right, because the law that protected them was enacted, thanks in part to Sen. Sanders. George II Oct 2015 #48

the law is a good one ibegurpard Oct 2015 #58

They can also be sued for breaking the law. hack89 Oct 2015 #98

It's is absolutely pro-gun. We already had enough anti-SLAPP protections for the gun industry.... msanthrope Oct 2015 #83

Seems like an opportune time for this to pop up TeddyR Oct 2015 #11

Clinton Becomes A Gun Lover beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #17

What does that have to do with this topic or this morning's slaughter? George II Oct 2015 #28

Isn't Hillary pro-2A as well? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #32

Repeat: What does that have to do with this topic or this morning's slaughter? George II Oct 2015 #51

What does reposting an old article have to do with it? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #52

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #23

says the guy who posted this OP? neverforget Oct 2015 #30

Since you're reposting an old article, yes. You should be ashamed of yourself. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #33

And your OP? Autumn Oct 2015 #43

What do you expect? That they would attack the pro-NRA Republicans? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #59

It's disgusting to politicize this but it's par for the course anymore. Autumn Oct 2015 #65

This was probably coordinated elsewhere and DU is disgusted with that site too. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2015 #21

ANY time there is a mass shooting this is appropriate. Period. George II Oct 2015 #26

It's just par for the course Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #34

He was, it's been posted here FIVE times. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #39

Hillary's emails have been posted over 100. leftofcool Oct 2015 #87

The same one was posted 100 times? Wow! Got proof of that? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #90

the OP is appropriate ibegurpard Oct 2015 #95

Why no gun violence position on his website? Sparkly Oct 2015 #62

I just knew somebody was going to post this about Bernie after the shooting! nt m-lekktor Oct 2015 #67

For those who read this Slate screed, PLCAA DOES allow suits against the gun industry aikoaiko Oct 2015 #70

They know ibegurpard Oct 2015 #71

Tell that to the Sandy Hook parents. leftofcool Oct 2015 #88

There lawsuit appears to have been a stunt promoted by the Brady Campaign. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #93

Get a life. jkbRN Oct 2015 #76

It must be tiresome AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #82

I think that voting for war, advocating a "more muscular" foreign policy, and refusing to limit/stop djean111 Oct 2015 #91

umpqua enid602 Oct 2015 #104

On the heels of Charleston, too. This is a national problem. nt MADem Oct 2015 #110